Mass Shooting at Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas

[Ifreann]

Strange, I don't seem to have said anything about banning anything.

Maybe you meant to quote someone else.

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We manage not to have shootings like this. I don't see why America couldn't manage the same.

The whole thread has sort of devolved into that, I was simply pointing out the foolishness of taking draconian measures to attempty to end all homicide. Unfortunately, some amount is inherent, and any attempts to eradicate it all would end with us like the humans in The Matrix, receiving only what we 'need'.

Welcome your robot overlords and you'll be well looked after.

[Keskinen]

Carry a weapon into the mall? Well, I do..

And for what purpose? If I was mall security or the owner of a store Id ask you to leave.

You act like they know he has it...concealed carry is a thing.

[Kramania]

Who actually does this?

enough people that stores like Target said open carried guns where banned from their stores.

Okay. Lots of other stores don't have these policies.

Again, why does it matter to you? Even if someone does carry a legally-owned assault rifle into a store, why the fuck does it matter to you so much? They aren't hurting anyone. And if they're within the law then who gives a shit?

[Sovaal]

Exactly as to what part is misinterpreted? Militiamen in Colonial America often provided their own personal arms.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The militia referred to the states and those militias becomes the national guard. Where in that amendment does it give you a right to any and all firearms and to carry them wherever you go?

Hence why the SCOTUS banned firearms except for the NG... except they didn't, and I think they understand the Constitution better then you do.

[Aellex]

We manage not to have shootings like this. I don't see why America couldn't manage the same.

You don't have as much weapons in circulation in your entire country as there are in just a couple of states. Bragging about it is like bragging about the lack of shark attacks in England when compared to Australia. I mean, yeah, sure, bravo, you have a shit ton less but your comparison is still shit.

[San Lumen]

enough people that stores like Target said open carried guns where banned from their stores.

Okay. Lots of other stores don't have these policies.

Again, why does it matter to you? Even if someone does carry a legally-owned assault rifle into a store, why the fuck does it matter to you so much? They aren't hurting anyone. And if they're within the law then who gives a shit?

because it has no business being there.

[Telconi]

Carry a weapon into the mall? Well, I do..

And for what purpose? If I was mall security or the manager of a store Id ask you to leave.

Well how the he'll would you know? Unless you have developed Xray vision somehow.

[Sovaal]

The whole thread has sort of devolved into that, I was simply pointing out the foolishness of taking draconian measures to attempty to end all homicide. Unfortunately, some amount is inherent, and any attempts to eradicate it all would end with us like the humans in The Matrix, receiving only what we 'need'.

Welcome your robot overlords and you'll be well looked after.

I'm tempted. Are said robotic overlords better or worse then the current ones?

[Kramania]

Okay. Lots of other stores don't have these policies.

Again, why does it matter to you? Even if someone does carry a legally-owned assault rifle into a store, why the fuck does it matter to you so much? They aren't hurting anyone. And if they're within the law then who gives a shit?

because it has no business being there.

If the business doesn't have a policy against it then apparently it has every business being there, so long as the person carrying it isn't hurting anyone.

[Telconi]

Okay. Lots of other stores don't have these policies.

Again, why does it matter to you? Even if someone does carry a legally-owned assault rifle into a store, why the fuck does it matter to you so much? They aren't hurting anyone. And if they're within the law then who gives a shit?

because it has no business being there.

"Blacks have no business being free citizens!" That''s what you sound like.

[The Lone Alliance]

Again, why does it matter to you? Even if someone does carry a legally-owned assault rifle into a store, why the fuck does it matter to you so much? They aren't hurting anyone. And if they're within the law then who gives a shit?

They scare San Lumen, and despite the fact that San Lumen seems to point out that, despite saying otherwise, the Constitution doesn't allow the right to own a gun, it apparently has a part written in invisible ink that say San Lumen has the right to feel safe by not seeing anything scary.

"Blacks have no business being free citizens!" That''s what you sound like.

Good point some people are scared of Black People, this is clearly enough proof that black people shouldn't be allowed to go into stores. /s

[San Lumen]

And for what purpose? If I was mall security or the manager of a store Id ask you to leave.

Well how the he'll would you know? Unless you have developed Xray vision somehow.

I was talking about assault rifles not pistol being carried into stores. And for what purpose could need to have a gun on you at all times unless your in Northern Mexico or another Latin American country with high gun violence?

[San Lumen]

Again, why does it matter to you? Even if someone does carry a legally-owned assault rifle into a store, why the fuck does it matter to you so much? They aren't hurting anyone. And if they're within the law then who gives a shit?

They scare San Lumen, and despite the fact that San Lumen seems to point out that, despite saying otherwise, the Constitution doesn't allow the right to own a gun, it apparently has a part written in invisible ink that say San Lumen has the right to feel safe by not seeing anything scary.

Im sorry but if I'm in a store shopping i really don't want to see someone walk in with a open carry gun like a rifle.

[Grinning Dragon]

It's literally right there in the wording of the 2nd Amendment, "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Did you miss it or refuse to comprehend that the first part of the 2nd Amendment has ZERO bearing on the intended enumerated negative right.

and yet how typical for people to only take one part of a something and forget the other part. Amendments and to and sections of constitution should not be read or interpreted in parts they should be interpreted in the entire context. if your read the amendment in its entirety it does not give the right to any and all firearms or to carry them everywhere.

The prefatory clause merely makes a positive statement on a person's right to keep and bear arms and it isn't a prerequisite on that right.

[Kramania]

Again, why does it matter to you? Even if someone does carry a legally-owned assault rifle into a store, why the fuck does it matter to you so much? They aren't hurting anyone. And if they're within the law then who gives a shit?

They scare San Lumen, and despite the fact that San Lumen seems to point out that, despite saying otherwise, the Constitution doesn't allow the right to own a gun, it apparently has a part written in invisible ink that say San Lumen has the right to feel safe by not seeing anything scary.

Ah, now it makes sense.

[Telconi]

The whole thread has sort of devolved into that, I was simply pointing out the foolishness of taking draconian measures to attempty to end all homicide. Unfortunately, some amount is inherent, and any attempts to eradicate it all would end with us like the humans in The Matrix, receiving only what we 'need'.

Welcome your robot overlords and you'll be well looked after.

Just set the Matrix back to before the GCA was enacted and you can have my biothermal energy.

[Ifreann]

We manage not to have shootings like this. I don't see why America couldn't manage the same.

You don't have as much weapons in circulation in your entire country as there are in just a couple of states. Bragging about it is like bragging about the lack of shark attacks in England when compared to Australia. I mean, yeah, sure, bravo, you have a shit ton less but your comparison is still shit.

I meant we as in the rest of the world.

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Welcome your robot overlords and you'll be well looked after.

I'm tempted. Are said robotic overlords better or worse then the current ones?

Much longer battery life. *nods*

[San Lumen]

and yet how typical for people to only take one part of a something and forget the other part. Amendments and to and sections of constitution should not be read or interpreted in parts they should be interpreted in the entire context. if your read the amendment in its entirety it does not give the right to any and all firearms or to carry them everywhere.

The prefatory clause merely makes a positive statement on a person's right to keep and bear arms and it isn't a prerequisite on that right.

Well thats not how I or many people I know interpret it.

[Kramania]

They scare San Lumen, and despite the fact that San Lumen seems to point out that, despite saying otherwise, the Constitution doesn't allow the right to own a gun, it apparently has a part written in invisible ink that say San Lumen has the right to feel safe by not seeing anything scary.

Im sorry but if I'm in a store shopping i really don't want to see someone walk in with a open carry gun like a rifle.

Then stay locked inside your house and never come out. Then you'll never see anything that scares you.

The rest of us will enjoy the open world.

[Telconi]

Well how the he'll would you know? Unless you have developed Xray vision somehow.

I was talking about assault rifles not pistol being carried into stores. And for what purpose could need to have a gun on you at all times unless your in Northern Mexico or another Latin American country with high gun violence?

Might need to shoot someone or something.

[San Lumen]

Im sorry but if I'm in a store shopping i really don't want to see someone walk in with a open carry gun like a rifle.

Then stay locked inside your house and never come out. Then you'll never see anything that scares you.

The rest of us will enjoy the open world.

Oh that's a great argument. Where you got that interpretation from what i wrote I have no idea.

[Telconi]

The prefatory clause merely makes a positive statement on a person's right to keep and bear arms and it isn't a prerequisite on that right.

Well thats not how I or many people I know interpret it.

Well I'mean glad you or your friends aren't justices of the Supreme court.

[San Lumen]

I was talking about assault rifles not pistol being carried into stores. And for what purpose could need to have a gun on you at all times unless your in Northern Mexico or another Latin American country with high gun violence?

Might need to shoot someone or something.

Really who? The off chance theirs a robbery or assault? Why not just pass a law everyone has to carry guns? If everyone had a gun then these mass shootings wouldn't happen right? Typical NRA logic.

[Kramania]

Then stay locked inside your house and never come out. Then you'll never see anything that scares you.

The rest of us will enjoy the open world.

Oh that's a great argument. Where you got that interpretation from what i wrote I have no idea.

You said that you don't want to see guns when you go out shopping. Clearly you find guns scary. But people find all kinds of things scary. The only way you'll never see something scary is to lock yourself in your house forever.

[Grinning Dragon]

The prefatory clause merely makes a positive statement on a person's right to keep and bear arms and it isn't a prerequisite on that right.

Well thats not how I or many people I know interpret it.

Then you and those many other people are wrong.

Some light reading for you to enjoy.