Are upcoming sex robots going to normalize male aggression?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Still not getting why it's immoral. Dangerous probably, weird most likely but immoral?

Like I said, it depends on you moral code. If you view masturbation or sex outside of marriage, then it is immoral.

I am a computer programer with a mind for tinkering with mechanical stuff on the side. To me this whole thing is just a really fascinating engineering problem that I'd love to see solved for science.

Oh, well yeah, fair enough then, go crazy I suppose.

[Albrenia]

Still not getting why it's immoral. Dangerous probably, weird most likely but immoral?

Like I said, it depends on you moral code. If you view masturbation or sex outside of marriage, then it is immoral.

Got it. I thought you meant something specific about robots, but I understand now.

*nods*

Love your flag by the way.

[Purpelia]

Oh, well yeah, fair enough then, go crazy I suppose.

Thing is, I am newer going to get that opportunity unless this thing is not just made but bought so much that the price drops to the point where it's affordable to pick one up and carve it open knowing full well I'll likely break it in the process. That's not really a realistic prospect as long as these things cost more than your average mobile phone.

So their fornication is in the best interest of my science.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

[...]Love your flag by the way.

If there's one thing that the clusterfuck known as 4chan is good for, it is the memes.

[Saiwania]

Dude, go to a fucking bar, buy a ten dollar drink, pick up a bloody girl — pay a fucking prostitute to fuck you — it honestly can't be anymore expensive than a bloody sex robot. As for the risk, I'm sure there are ways in which you could mitigate that.

This isn't very viable for a lot of people and this is missing the entire point. People don't need permission to masturbate generally speaking, they have their own two hands and can stimulate themselves for pleasure in secret, when no one is around. The same isn't true for sexual intercourse, you need someone else for that and a minority of people just aren't very sociable or have much in the way of charisma. It is far easier for those types to be "shut ins."

The aim of a sex robot is to simulate having real sex without it actually being real, so you can take care of such wants yourself, and not need to convince someone else to have sex with you. This device someone can use repeatedly and get satisfaction from it, while with traditional prostitution, you only get one session on a temporary basis and not without risk, rejection, or whatever else.

If it does feel good, a lot of people will probably want it for curiosity sake. I don't think it is 100% bad for women, it means that people will get pestered or coerced into sex less often because they'll have a means of getting off themselves if the other person doesn't feel like it. A relatively common problem in relationships is that one person wants sex while the other person doesn't.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Thing is, I am newer going to get that opportunity unless this thing is not just made but bought so much that the price drops to the point where it's affordable to pick one up and carve it open knowing full well I'll likely break it in the process. That's not really a realistic prospect as long as these things cost more than your average mobile phone.

So their fornication is in the best interest of my science.

In that case, if they were to do as I would do and not manufacture them, I say tough titty — I'm sure you'll find something else to work on.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

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I can't be bothered, I'm tired and it's late, not to mention that I probably won't win, so I'll just concede here.

[Saiwania]

I can't be bothered, I'm tired and it's late, not to mention that I probably won't win, so I'll just concede here.

Please do some time tomorrow, or whenever- if you can. I don't have any loyalties on this subject.

As it stands now, I think sex robots have a ton of limitations. I think I'd eventually try a sex robot if it was sufficiently advanced but limited in function
(I don't want it to have AI, for it to talk, and so on), but only in addition to an actual prostitute or a real woman. I'd have to for comparisons' sake.

It'd be nothing short of amazing if a sex robot could near identically replicate how a real vagina is, but I'm skeptical. Perhaps it could become a popular gift for boys who've passed puberty, it depends on the prevalent opinions about it. If it actually impresses people.

If people are willing to pay money for it now however, it makes sense to manufacture it. Business (makes the world go round) has always been about finding ways to get people to give them profits.

[Purpelia]

Thing is, I am newer going to get that opportunity unless this thing is not just made but bought so much that the price drops to the point where it's affordable to pick one up and carve it open knowing full well I'll likely break it in the process. That's not really a realistic prospect as long as these things cost more than your average mobile phone.

So their fornication is in the best interest of my science.

In that case, if they were to do as I would do and not manufacture them, I say tough titty — I'm sure you'll find something else to work on.

But why do you oppose making them? I can see why you would oppose using them and that's fine. But if you truly genuinely believe that having sex with one of those things sends people strait to hell why not let them go to hell? They would have found other ways to masturbate anyway. And god knows all and made all so surely he knows of their impure thoughts even if they don't. So struggle against his grand plan to ensnare them?

Why deny those of us who are innocent in thought and deed the right to enjoy our self innocently just so you can protect those who would willingly damn them self and who will find ways to do so anyway?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

But why do you oppose making them?[...]

Well, I wouldn't be opposed to some being made for people such as yourself.

As for the rest of this post, probably best to take it to the CDT considering it has to do with God.

Please do some time tomorrow, or whenever- if you can. I don't have any loyalties on this subject.

I'll try to do it soon, then again, I may not be on tomorrow.

[Costa Fierro]

Dude, go to a fucking bar, buy a ten dollar drink, pick up a bloody girl — pay a fucking prostitute to fuck you — it honestly can't be anymore expensive than a bloody sex robot.

The cheapest sex robot I know of is $400, shipping included. $400 for a one time purchase is going to be a hell of a lot less expensive than going to bars on weekends and spending wads of cash for drinks and no sex.

As for the risk, I'm sure there are ways in which you could mitigate that.

Short of plastic surgery, nope.

Why? I'd say that it was so they don't become a slave to pleasure — I'm also sure the hand would suffice should they not be as conservative as I.

Humans are a slave to pleasure. We're biologically hardwired so we can enjoy sex in order to procreate.

Well that would depend on your moral code. That being said, in my case, sex outside of marriage is immoral — masturbastion is also immoral.

You sound like a fun guy.

[Purpelia]

But why do you oppose making them?[...]

Well, I wouldn't be opposed to some being made for people such as yourself.

As for the rest of this post, probably best to take it to the CDT considering it has to do with God.

I can't really post in that thread as I am not christian my self. I am merely familiar with Christians and the associated tradition. But as far as I see it it's rather simple. If you believe in him than you believe he has a grand plan for everyone and wisdom and foresight far beyond that of mere mortals such as our self and you believe that he has created us and thus given us the tools of our own damnation than surely you should not and indeed can not be the one to try and throw a wrench into those plans. After all, if he feels someone needs to be damned there has to be a damn good reason for it and he is going to be smarter and more capable than you and ensure that guy gets damned anyway. And indeed, would you not by doing that set your self up for damnation?

[Costa Fierro]

As it stands now, I think sex robots have a ton of limitations. I think I'd eventually try a sex robot if it was sufficiently advanced but limited in function (I don't want it to have AI, for it to talk, and so on), but only in addition to an actual prostitute or a real woman. I'd have to for comparisons' sake.

They have those functions already, but they're robots, so they're always programmable.

It'd be nothing short of amazing if a sex robot could near identically replicate how a real vagina is, but I'm skeptical.

In all honesty, if there's guys masturbating to anime or My Little Pony, not having a realistic vagina isn't going to be a problem.

[Saiwania]

There are a ton of alarmist stories in the media about that one sex doll that was trashed at a technology show. My reaction is- who the hell cares? It is an object that can damn well be treated like an inanimate object. The only person to feel bad for, is perhaps the inventor. But they should've secured it behind a display or whatever if they didn't want their $5,000+ equipment getting damage.

If a sex robot costs a lot of money, people aren't going to go out of their way to break it, but if they do- that is their right. I'm certainly not going to treat a toy like I would a real person and most people probably feel the same.

[Ethel mermania]

Eh, just put a warning on the user manual to use in a well ventilated area.

Also, outdoors fetishists will rejoice at that, too.

Yeah, but when people are just like "well I guess my bedroom counts as well-ventilated" and then die, there might be some bad PR.

It may require an outdoor use only sticker. Or. We could stick a catalytic converter in the exhaust flow.

[Ethel mermania]

Dude, go to a fucking bar, buy a ten dollar drink, pick up a bloody girl — pay a fucking prostitute to fuck you — it honestly can't be anymore expensive than a bloody sex robot. As for the risk, I'm sure there are ways in which you could mitigate that.

What if you're like me and you don't really care about the actual sex part and you only really want to take a screwdriver to her to see what makes her tick? I don't think many girls would let me pay to cut them up. And fewer still actually have electric motors and intricate circuitry and all sorts of fun stuff inside.

Become a mechanical engineer, help us solve these problems

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yeah, but when people are just like "well I guess my bedroom counts as well-ventilated" and then die, there might be some bad PR.

It may require an outdoor use only sticker. Or. We could stick a catalytic converter in the exhaust flow.

Out the butt. Out the butt.

[Ethel mermania]

It may require an outdoor use only sticker. Or. We could stick a catalytic converter in the exhaust flow.

Out the butt. Out the butt.

As your husband mentioned there may be a heat issue with that particular orifice

[Blasted Craigs]

Why destroy something that brings satisfaction to others just because you don't like it? Not to mention that the 'kill it with fire,for the children/morality' crowd tend to have video games on their hit list. Not cool.

Just because it brings satisfaction doesn't necessarily mean it is good. Plus, I'd prefer we don't come to favour fake women rather than real ones — not to mention we already have a built in pleasure device.

You (not you specifically) could go on and on about how they won't replace real women, but I'd still like to discourage this at every turn — I'm also morally against this type of stuff.

Like I stated in an earlier thread, there are reasons this would make a lower population desirable.....the only major problems with a lower population is...
1-A lower labor pool.
2-Less genetic diversity means less chance of surviving a devastating plague or virus.
3-Lower population means less drive to create space based colonies.
4-Lower numbers means lower numbers of military, which makes war deaths more devastating.(Especially if war with another alien race in the future is realized)
Now....Robots, if implemented properly, can limit or negate three of these problems, and robots+technology itself can negate the last.
1-Robots negate.
Using robots for servile and manufacturing labor frees up human labor for more specialized roles, like planning and development. Thus, the biggest disadvantage of a small labor pool is negated.
2-Technology+robots negate.
There is genetic technology that means today a full strand of human DNA can be implanted into embryonic eggs, and a human baby can be created in a tube like environment. Thus, neither a male nor a female is necessarily needed for procreation even today, expense today is why this isn't feasible yet. It would not be a far cry to imagine robots could be equipped with artificial wombs to carry and deliver children, using a "bank" of genetic information purchased to create a child, and using the robot as a "babysitter" isn't that unfathomable as well. Thus, if a plague were to wipe out, say, 90% of the population, this process could be used to replace the lost population, and robots could act as the sole caretakers and guardians of the replacement population until they are of age and development to assume adult responsibilities, with the surviving 10% acting as overall supervisors to the replacement "process" to ensure continuity of culture and social identity.
3-Robots Negate.
Robot labor will simply be used to create colonies, and until the colony is considered "livable" human presence will likely not be present. This will likely result in the loss of the "pioneer" spirit of our ancestors, but will likely be vastly more efficient in the process.
4-Robots negate.
War will likely be fought with robot armies controlled by human commanders, with little to no loss to human life unless dictated by their human controllers. This will mean population will no longer be a deciding factor in winning wars, the only factors will be skill of commanders, manufacturing capability, and technological level of the machines used. Thus, attrition will be monetary, not biological. We may lose our "warrior spirit", but this has been partially abandoned in favor of technology anyways.(Technology, regardless of what romanticism and Hollywood says, in reality trumps warrior spirit and bravado.)

So.....A reduced population due to reduced male/female procreation due to sexbots will be negated by technological advancements brought about by investment in robotic technology. Is this desirable? That is open to discussion, but is it overall disastrous? No. Humanity would thrive under such a system. Humanity could also thrive with self development (advances in genetic technology, trans-humanism, etc.) But we are I think at a turning point in our development as a species over the next two or three generations.

[Herador]

Out the butt. Out the butt.

As your husband mentioned there may be a heat issue with that particular orifice

Put it above the butt, make it look like a tail, and corner whole new market.

[Senkaku]

As your husband mentioned there may be a heat issue with that particular orifice

Put it above the butt, make it look like a tail, and corner whole new market.

Actually, a tail-like rubber hose or something might be convenient- attach it to like a window-mounted fan or something on the far side of the room, and then you're cleared for indoor use.

[Herador]

Put it above the butt, make it look like a tail, and corner whole new market.

Actually, a tail-like rubber hose or something might be convenient- attach it to like a window-mounted fan or something on the far side of the room, and then you're cleared for indoor use.

Steampunk sexbots or I riot damnit!

[Ethel mermania]

Put it above the butt, make it look like a tail, and corner whole new market.

Actually, a tail-like rubber hose or something might be convenient- attach it to like a window-mounted fan or something on the far side of the room, and then you're cleared for indoor use.

i am bringing that picture to work.

[Costa Fierro]

One in three German men could see themselves having sex with robots. Sounds like the feminists are losing.

[Albrenia]

One in three German men could see themselves having sex with robots. Sounds like the feminists are losing.

Do germans have lots of mirrors or something?

Sorry, lame joke.