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Are upcoming sex robots going to normalize male aggression?

Yes, they're going to increase violence.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:06 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:and as the brothel owner said

its like fucking a corpse.


And yet, more people would rather fuck a corpse than fuck a woman. Says a lot, really.

Edit: As I said previously, whether it's fucking a corpse or having emotions, men simply do not care.
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Postby Herador » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:08 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:and as the brothel owner said

its like fucking a corpse.


And yet, more people would rather fuck a corpse than fuck a woman. Says a lot, really.

It certainlyy says you can make a lot of money off a novelty experience, yes.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:10 pm

Herador wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
And yet, more people would rather fuck a corpse than fuck a woman. Says a lot, really.

It certainlyy says you can make a lot of money off a novelty experience, yes.


Ain't a novelty if you chose it over your own wife.
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Postby Herador » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:12 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Herador wrote:It certainlyy says you can make a lot of money off a novelty experience, yes.


Ain't a novelty if you chose it over your own wife.

Good for that guy. Doesn't really prove anything other than one dude likes that specific thing, but I'm happy he's comfortable being who he is.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:26 pm

Herador wrote:

Good for that guy. Doesn't really prove anything other than one dude likes that specific thing, but I'm happy he's comfortable being who he is.


There's more than one person in that article. There's also two previous articles about a brothel in Austria where sex robots were more popular than actual women. And a sex robot brothel in Barcelona was forced out because prostitutes complained. Because the sex robot brothel was taking all the customers.
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Postby Herador » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:28 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Herador wrote:Good for that guy. Doesn't really prove anything other than one dude likes that specific thing, but I'm happy he's comfortable being who he is.


There's more than one person in that article. There's also two previous articles about a brothel in Austria where sex robots were more popular than actual women. And a sex robot brothel in Barcelona was forced out because prostitutes complained. Because the sex robot brothel was taking all the customers.

Novelty makes money, yes.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:53 pm

Herador wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
There's more than one person in that article. There's also two previous articles about a brothel in Austria where sex robots were more popular than actual women. And a sex robot brothel in Barcelona was forced out because prostitutes complained. Because the sex robot brothel was taking all the customers.

Novelty makes money, yes.


This isn't a novelty, it's the future. And what a bright new future it will be.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:20 am

To each their own, mmh? As long as nobody is getting hurt and everyone is legal and consenting, it's all good.

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:39 am

Costa Fierro wrote:This isn't a novelty, it's the future. And what a bright new future it will be.


Whether you want to admit it or not, it is still a novelty as of right now. There is no guarantee that the technology will ever go very far from where it is now.

The entire point from what I can discern, is to try to accurately replicate the sensation of sexual intercourse. A tool with which to "have fun" without exposing oneself to any venereal diseases and not having to rely on the cooperation of anyone else. Adding too many extras such as AI is actually a negative rather than a positive. What the typical male will really care about- is whether it accurately simulates a real vagina or not (or feels better) in terms of physical sensation. Not companionship, for which a real person would be far superior at providing.

I do think vibration is a gimmick, it simply doesn't always feel good because it is so unnatural with respect to how the human body has evolved. Many people who operate heavy machinery or power tools such as chainsaws, can on occasion- suffer various degrees of nerve damage because they held onto something vibrating for too long. Medical problems such as "vibration white finger" may result.

This is why it is clear to me that people will want to be able to turn vibration off, because past a certain point- it would stop being enjoyable for the same reason that carpal tunnel happens to typists who don't take regular breaks and practice proper ergonomics. I don't see anyone really taking this into consideration but it is important to not overlook.

What happens when you get too much vibration is that the part getting vibrated will begin to feel numb before advancing to pain if the person doesn't stop the activity which is causing their symptoms and take a sufficient break.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:35 am

Saiwania wrote:Whether you want to admit it or not, it is still a novelty as of right now. There is no guarantee that the technology will ever go very far from where it is now.


Don't be so sure with that. 30 years ago no one could have imagined the mobile phone turning from a massive brick into a compact, touch-screen device that could do the job of at least six other devices.

The entire point from what I can discern, is to try to accurately replicate the sensation of sexual intercourse. A tool with which to "have fun" without exposing oneself to any venereal diseases and not having to rely on the cooperation of anyone else. Adding too many extras such as AI is actually a negative rather than a positive. What the typical male will really care about- is whether it accurately simulates a real vagina or not (or feels better) in terms of physical sensation. Not companionship, for which a real person would be far superior at providing.


This is exactly it, and this is what a lot of people don't get. This is something for men to get their rocks off, that's it. There's no need for emotions or anything else, just a machine that can accurately reflect the sensation of having sex with a woman, and providing the bonuses of not dealing with someone who is inexperienced, the dangers of STD's, unwanted pregnancies, false rape claims and the sheer expense of paying women to have sex with them. They seem to think that men want something deeper, but sex for men is purely physical.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:44 am

Costa Fierro wrote:So what is the issue exactly?


I'd rather the male populace was having sex with real women, just as I would rather the female populace was having sex with real men.

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:46 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:Why destroy something that brings satisfaction to others just because you don't like it? Not to mention that the 'kill it with fire,for the children/morality' crowd tend to have video games on their hit list. Not cool.


Just because it brings satisfaction doesn't necessarily mean it is good. Plus, I'd prefer we don't come to favour fake women rather than real ones — not to mention we already have a built in pleasure device.

You (not you specifically) could go on and on about how they won't replace real women, but I'd still like to discourage this at every turn — I'm also morally against this type of stuff.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:51 am

What I don't understand is why having a power cable would be such a big problem. If you've already went to such a big effort to get your self a synthetic girl might as well spring for an extension cord.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Albrenia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:26 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:Why destroy something that brings satisfaction to others just because you don't like it? Not to mention that the 'kill it with fire,for the children/morality' crowd tend to have video games on their hit list. Not cool.


Just because it brings satisfaction doesn't necessarily mean it is good. Plus, I'd prefer we don't come to favour fake women rather than real ones — not to mention we already have a built in pleasure device.

You (not you specifically) could go on and on about how they won't replace real women, but I'd still like to discourage this at every turn — I'm also morally against this type of stuff.


Morally against robots or not doing 'stuff' with the womanfolk?

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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:30 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:I'd rather the male populace was having sex with real women, just as I would rather the female populace was having sex with real men.


Why? It's expensive and risky as hell.

Just because it brings satisfaction doesn't necessarily mean it is good.


Satisfaction is what they're designed to do. And they do it well. So I'd say it's good.

Plus, I'd prefer we don't come to favour fake women rather than real ones — not to mention we already have a built in pleasure device.


Real women are driving men to prefer sex robots in droves. Dating and relationships is so heavily stacked against men, they might as well not bother. And why should men have to forego sexual pleasure and satisfaction because they can't get laid, or don't want to put themselves at risk just for a one night stand? If it's a choice of masturbation or a sex robot, the robot will win, hands down. Also, women are the only ones within a built in pleasure device, plus a plethora of sex toys and a social attitude that puts female sexuality on a pedestal. Women can shove whatever they want into that sweaty, smelly orifice between their legs for sexual pleasure and no one bats an eye. A man spends his own hard earned money on something that gives him exactly the same result and people call him a creep or a weirdo.

You (not you specifically) could go on and on about how they won't replace real women, but I'd still like to discourage this at every turn — I'm also morally against this type of stuff.


What's immoral about it?
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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:30 am

Purpelia wrote:What I don't understand is why having a power cable would be such a big problem. If you've already went to such a big effort to get your self a synthetic girl might as well spring for an extension cord.


Would you really inject bodily fluids into something that is actually connected to deadly voltage? I don't know, it sounds rather unnerving.
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Postby Herador » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:33 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What I don't understand is why having a power cable would be such a big problem. If you've already went to such a big effort to get your self a synthetic girl might as well spring for an extension cord.


Would you really inject bodily fluids into something that is actually connected to deadly voltage? I don't know, it sounds rather unnerving.

Or super exciting, depending on what you're into.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:35 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What I don't understand is why having a power cable would be such a big problem. If you've already went to such a big effort to get your self a synthetic girl might as well spring for an extension cord.


Would you really inject bodily fluids into something that is actually connected to deadly voltage? I don't know, it sounds rather unnerving.


There's not going to be a bunch of exposed electrical wires right where you insert your penis. It is covered in a latex skin. Although if Samsung get in on this, expect them to explode anyway.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:45 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What I don't understand is why having a power cable would be such a big problem. If you've already went to such a big effort to get your self a synthetic girl might as well spring for an extension cord.


Would you really inject bodily fluids into something that is actually connected to deadly voltage? I don't know, it sounds rather unnerving.

Doing it with something that has a battery is not exactly safer either. After all if the power consumption is the same than the electrical hazard is exactly the same as well. This isn't your garden variety sex toy here. Keeping the skin heated alone is going to require some serious power output. And at the same time though it's very unlikely that this thing would be using unregulated mains voltage because it's not exactly a room heater either. So you are most likely looking at a power supply that steps the voltage down significantly before it hits the machine. Or, for you laypeople, that little black box you see on laptop power cables. So it's an electrical hazard if the insulation breaks either way but not a huge one. Like I don't see this thing giving off deadly shocks. Although I imagine it would make enough of a shock to put you out of the mood for the day.

And frankly I'd rather have sex with something that uses a power cable I can unplug for safety purposes and a short term small capacity battery that only lasts for how ever long I need it to in order to get the job done than heave a human sized high capacity battery fully charged in my bedroom waiting for something to short out. In fact, a good case can be made for not having a battery at all and just having a power cable so that you can disconnect all power instantly if something goes bad.

Not that any of this is going to be a huge deal because there is bound to be some sort of cutoff circuitry that detects unusual spikes in electrical discharge and just cuts the power. There has to be.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:01 am

Costa Fierro wrote:Why? It's expensive and risky as hell.[...]


Dude, go to a fucking bar, buy a ten dollar drink, pick up a bloody girl — pay a fucking prostitute to fuck you — it honestly can't be anymore expensive than a bloody sex robot. As for the risk, I'm sure there are ways in which you could mitigate that.

Costa Fierro wrote:[...]Satisfaction is what they're designed to do. And they do it well. So I'd say it's good.[...]


You seemed to be mixed up, I know what its purpose is, I know it achieves that goal. I'm referring to the moral good (mine to be specific).

Costa Fierro wrote:[...]And why should men have to forego sexual pleasure and satisfaction because they can't get laid, or don't want to put themselves at risk just for a one night stand? [...]


Why? I'd say that it was so they don't become a slave to pleasure — I'm also sure the hand would suffice should they not be as conservative as I.

Costa Fierro wrote:[...]What's immoral about it?


Well that would depend on your moral code. That being said, in my case, sex outside of marriage is immoral — masturbastion is also immoral.

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FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:Why? It's expensive and risky as hell.[...]


Dude, go to a fucking bar, buy a ten dollar drink, pick up a bloody girl — pay a fucking prostitute to fuck you — it honestly can't be anymore expensive than a bloody sex robot. As for the risk, I'm sure there are ways in which you could mitigate that.

Costa Fierro wrote:[...]Satisfaction is what they're designed to do. And they do it well. So I'd say it's good.[...]


You seemed to be mixed up, I know what its purpose is, I know it achieves that goal. I'm referring to the moral good (mine to be specific).

Costa Fierro wrote:[...]And why should men have to forego sexual pleasure and satisfaction because they can't get laid, or don't want to put themselves at risk just for a one night stand? [...]


Why? I'd say that it was so they don't become a slave to pleasure — I'm also sure the hand would suffice should they not be as conservative as I.

Costa Fierro wrote:[...]What's immoral about it?


Well that would depend on your moral code. That being said, in my case, sex outside of marriage is immoral — masturbastion is also immoral.


Yeah no. Still way too risky. To the extent it's not worth the effort of going to the bar if "easy" women are there.

If I were fully equipped, sex bots would be the way to go.

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:06 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:Dude, go to a fucking bar, buy a ten dollar drink, pick up a bloody girl — pay a fucking prostitute to fuck you — it honestly can't be anymore expensive than a bloody sex robot. As for the risk, I'm sure there are ways in which you could mitigate that.

What if you're like me and you don't really care about the actual sex part and you only really want to take a screwdriver to her to see what makes her tick? I don't think many girls would let me pay to cut them up. And fewer still actually have electric motors and intricate circuitry and all sorts of fun stuff inside.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:09 am

Purpelia wrote:What if you're like me and you don't really care about the actual sex part and you only really want to take a screwdriver to her to see what makes her tick? I don't think many girls would let me pay to cut them up. And fewer still actually have electric motors and intricate circuitry and all sorts of fun stuff inside.


... Say again? I suppose you could check a chart on human anatomy.

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Postby Albrenia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:16 am

Still not getting why it's immoral. Dangerous probably, weird most likely but immoral?

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:16 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What if you're like me and you don't really care about the actual sex part and you only really want to take a screwdriver to her to see what makes her tick? I don't think many girls would let me pay to cut them up. And fewer still actually have electric motors and intricate circuitry and all sorts of fun stuff inside.


... Say again? I suppose you could check a chart on human anatomy.

I am a computer programer with a mind for tinkering with mechanical stuff on the side. To me this whole thing is just a really fascinating engineering problem that I'd love to see solved for science.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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