Are upcoming sex robots going to normalize male aggression?

[Costa Fierro]

Given that I doubt it feels or acts all that human right now yes I see very little difference. And if they feel and act as close to human as possible then all you have done is change the gatekeeper.

It doesn't have to act or feel human in order for it to be better. It has to be good sexually. And given that in one brothel in Austria where the sex doll was so popular than actual women, they bought a second one, I'm inclined to believe that feeling or acting human isn't really that much of a deal breaker for men. Especially when they can essentially be programmed to act out many sexual fantasies and kinks. Sex for men really only matters in the sense that they are attracted to whatever they're having sex with, and that's it.

[Ethel mermania]

Given that I doubt it feels or acts all that human right now yes I see very little difference. And if they feel and act as close to human as possible then all you have done is change the gatekeeper.

It doesn't have to act or feel human in order for it to be better. It has to be good sexually. And given that in one brothel in Austria where the sex doll was so popular than actual women, they bought a second one, I'm inclined to believe that feeling or acting human isn't really that much of a deal breaker for men. Especially when they can essentially be programmed to act out many sexual fantasies and kinks. Sex for men really only matters in the sense that they are attracted to whatever they're having sex with, and that's it.

eeewwww

[FelrikTheDeleted]

It doesn't have to act or feel human in order for it to be better. It has to be good sexually. And given that in one brothel in Austria where the sex doll was so popular than actual women, they bought a second one, I'm inclined to believe that feeling or acting human isn't really that much of a deal breaker for men. Especially when they can essentially be programmed to act out many sexual fantasies and kinks. Sex for men really only matters in the sense that they are attracted to whatever they're having sex with, and that's it.

This, this is why we should kill these upcoming sex robots with fire (*cough* plus, I'd also prefer, the dolls to be destroyed too if possible *cough*).

[Costa Fierro]

This, this is why we should kill these upcoming sex robots with fire (*cough* plus, I'd also prefer, the dolls to be destroyed too if possible *cough*).

eeewwww

So what is the issue exactly?

[Ethel mermania]

This, this is why we should kill these upcoming sex robots with fire (*cough* plus, I'd also prefer, the dolls to be destroyed too if possible *cough*).

eeewwww

So what is the issue exactly?

on the bright side they tell you they clean an disinfect the dolls after every use, but they dont tell you how.

and as the brothel owner said

its like fucking a corpse.


ewwwwwwwww


that article was well worth the read

[Dooom35796821595]

It doesn't have to act or feel human in order for it to be better. It has to be good sexually. And given that in one brothel in Austria where the sex doll was so popular than actual women, they bought a second one, I'm inclined to believe that feeling or acting human isn't really that much of a deal breaker for men. Especially when they can essentially be programmed to act out many sexual fantasies and kinks. Sex for men really only matters in the sense that they are attracted to whatever they're having sex with, and that's it.

This, this is why we should kill these upcoming sex robots with fire (*cough* plus, I'd also prefer, the dolls to be destroyed too if possible *cough*).

Why destroy something that brings satisfaction to others just because you don't like it? Not to mention that the 'kill it with fire,for the children/morality' crowd tend to have video games on their hit list. Not cool.

[Galloism]

So what is the issue exactly?

on the bright side they tell you they clean an disinfect the dolls after every use, but they dont tell you how.

and as the brothel owner said

its like fucking a corpse.


ewwwwwwwww


that article was well worth the read

The heating problem has not been overcome yet. Basically, battery density is too low to maintain warm skin.

And, for some weird reason, no one has considered a propane powered sexbot yet.

"Propane and propane accessories" indeed.

[Blasted Craigs]

So what is the issue exactly?

on the bright side they tell you they clean an disinfect the dolls after every use, but they dont tell you how.

and as the brothel owner said

its like fucking a corpse.


ewwwwwwwww


that article was well worth the read

Sooo...
All those zombie fetishists out there....will finally be able to live out their fantasies.
Good for them.
Creepy, but as long as nobody is hurt, people living out their fetishes are fine by me.
(Hell, I find furries, SNM fanatics, and others creepy, but if no one is actually hurt, think its fine if they get to live their fantasies. If my vanilla tastes can be satisfied, I don't see why they cannot also if they want. They may think my cuddle fetish is creepy as well. BTW handholding is where its at bro.)

[Blasted Craigs]

on the bright side they tell you they clean an disinfect the dolls after every use, but they dont tell you how.

and as the brothel owner said

its like fucking a corpse.


ewwwwwwwww


that article was well worth the read

The heating problem has not been overcome yet. Basically, battery density is too low to maintain warm skin.

And, for some weird reason, no one has considered a propane powered sexbot yet.

"Propane and propane accessories" indeed.

Hank would be proud my son.

[Ethel mermania]

on the bright side they tell you they clean an disinfect the dolls after every use, but they dont tell you how.

and as the brothel owner said

its like fucking a corpse.


ewwwwwwwww


that article was well worth the read

The heating problem has not been overcome yet. Basically, battery density is too low to maintain warm skin.

And, for some weird reason, no one has considered a propane powered sexbot yet.

"Propane and propane accessories" indeed.

are you saying this is going to be an episode in a mike judge cartoon?

[Galloism]

The heating problem has not been overcome yet. Basically, battery density is too low to maintain warm skin.

And, for some weird reason, no one has considered a propane powered sexbot yet.

"Propane and propane accessories" indeed.

are you saying this is going to be an episode in a mike judge cartoon?

It's easy (if time consuming) to splice together cartoon clips. We could make one.

[Ethel mermania]

are you saying this is going to be an episode in a mike judge cartoon?

It's easy (if time consuming) to splice together cartoon clips. We could make one.

well he did say it is fun to steal something and get away with it.

[Galloism]

It's easy (if time consuming) to splice together cartoon clips. We could make one.

well he did say it is fun to steal something and get away with it.

You know, a propane or kerosine powered robot would have its uses honestly. Could generate more power than batteries and last longer, and with proper heat spreading, the waste heat could be used to keep the skin warm.

Win - win.

[Neanderthaland]

well he did say it is fun to steal something and get away with it.

You know, a propane or kerosine powered robot would have its uses honestly. Could generate more power than batteries and last longer, and with proper heat spreading, the waste heat could be used to keep the skin warm.

Win - win.

The exhaust might be a problem.

Just be sure to always use it outside.

[Galloism]

You know, a propane or kerosine powered robot would have its uses honestly. Could generate more power than batteries and last longer, and with proper heat spreading, the waste heat could be used to keep the skin warm.

Win - win.

The exhaust might be a problem.

Just be sure to always use it outside.

A detail.

[Neo Humanity]

The damage to Samantha the sex robot shows male aggression being normalised
These problematic dolls invite abusive treatment.

According to reports today, a sex doll called “Samantha” – on display at Linz’s Arts Electronica Festival – was so severely "molested" by a group of men, it was sent home in desperate need of repair and "badly soiled". Despite the damage, the owner claimed the robot was designed to take a lot and would "pull through".

The attack on Samantha is deeply disturbing. It’s a blatant example of the violence that can happen when we tell men they can do whatever they want to an object designed to resemble a woman’s body.

There will be some who argue that this "attack" proves the need for sex robots as an outlet for male aggression. However, rather than shrugging our shoulders and accepting that male sexual violence is inevitable, we must instead challenge the causes and try to end it.

The argument that sex robots reduce male sexual violence by giving men an outlet is deeply flawed. Firstly, it is not backed up in evidence – partly because the robots are too new to allow for proper research. But secondly, and perhaps most importantly, sex robots make male violence seem more normal, more acceptable and, indeed, inevitable. How? Because these robots are specifically designed to eroticise non-consent.

A sex robot cannot give consent — it can only take whatever its owner throws at it. As a result, it not only invites abusive treatment, it demands it. The brands behind the robots explicitly encourage the owners to act out sexual entitlement and aggression on these plastic bodies, allowing for men to associate the sexual pleasure of their orgasm with non-consent. Why else would True Companions dolls have a “frigid Farrah” setting that encourages the owner to simulate rape?

Two main causes lie behind sexual violence – male entitlement and power. These are both re-enforced by sex robots, and instead desperately need to be challenged if we can ever hope to end male violence against women and girls.

Sex robots not only don’t challenge male entitlement to women’s bodies, they entrench it. Even the term “owner” for the buyer of the robot implies this. It sends a message that men can “own” a sex object which is designed for them to do whatever they like with. The owners are entitled to act out whatever fantasy they have on their doll. In the case of Samantha, this entitlement even gave the men a chance to break the robot’s fingers.

Similarly, sexual violence is not about attraction or sexual desire, it is about power. After all, men don’t rape women because they fancy their victim. The same applies to robots. The men didn't attack Samantha because they were overwhelmed by sexual attraction for its plastic body. The men didn’t fancy Samantha. Consciously or not, the attack enabled them to enact a fantasy of male power and domination on a pliable “body”.

As a result, rather than providing an outlet for male sexual aggression, the attack on Samantha shows how sex robots merely serve to normalise and make the causes of that aggression acceptable. This attack replicates the power structures and notions of entitlement that feed sexual violence.

One of the proposed selling points of sex robots is the way they respond pliably and willingly to their owner. Retailers claim that their product "likes what you like, dislikes what you dislike", and are "always ready to talk and play".

The appeal, then, of sex robots, is that while they look like a pornified ideal of women, they are not like real human women in a very key way. They have no voice. They don’t say no, they don’t have their their own sexuality, they don’t have their own tastes and sexual proclivities. They’re never tired, they’re never not in the mood, they never demand certain sexual acts or express their own sexual desires. If the robot does say no, it's a no that can be ignored and overruled. They will take whatever the man wants.

This sends a message to men that the ideal sexual partner is the one who only responds to what he wants and needs, rather than an autonomous being with her own wants and needs.

In this way, sex robots are clearly anti-human. They take away women’s humanity, and replace women’s bodies and sexualities with a set of plastic holes. The owner can even turn off the robot’s voice setting if they choose to. Chiefly, the owner doesn’t have to worry about what his robot wants. His desires, fantasies and potential violence are all that counts.

The idealisation of the woman who never says no; the normalisation of sexual aggression; the eroticisation of non-consent – this is the reality of sex robots and this is what lies behind the attack on Samantha.

All of this begs the question: do we want to live in a world where men are given the opportunity to smash, molest and “rape” a model of a woman’s body? A world where we decide that we are so OK with male entitlement and violence being inevitable, that we provide men with models of women to inflict their violent acts?

Or do we want to live in a world that believes better of men, of all of us? One that challenges a culture of male entitlement and works to end male violence? One that doesn’t see male sexual aggression as a normal part of life that must be managed with Samanthas, but instead recognises the value of equality, consent and respect? A world that recognises and celebrates the humanity of women and men?

Samantha can be fixed by an engineer. But the world sex robots represent can only be fixed if we take action to end violence against women and girls.

Emphasis mine.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/f ... normalised

This is really disturbing, and I think that's the definitive proof that Feminists already fighting against such potential threat to the safety of girls and women are right: this is the definitive proof that upcoming sex robots are going to fuel violence against girls and women that will skyrocket to a new level.
I think that the campaign against sex robots
https://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/20 ... ent-filia/
Is actually tackling a very important issue: it isn't important right now, and it isn't going to be a very important issue the next month, nor it'll be a very important issue in the next 6 months.
But I think that if we don't take action now then the problem, within few years, is going to grow, and perhaps even to go out of control.

What do you think, NSGs?

Given previous experiences I suspect that it's likely that most NSGs will disagree with me, but, still, I hope that at least some NSGs will begin to understand the real, and really worrying, implications of such technology.

The poll enable users to change their vote, just in case someone will change her/his opinion due the upcoming discussion.

I mean... if you, or any women, perhaps, equate yourself with a robotic sex doll, then I guess this would be a serious matter for you/them. But by that moment, I think you might have some other issues that you may want to look into first.

[Blasted Craigs]

You know, a propane or kerosine powered robot would have its uses honestly. Could generate more power than batteries and last longer, and with proper heat spreading, the waste heat could be used to keep the skin warm.

Win - win.

The exhaust might be a problem.

Just be sure to always use it outside.

An artistic representation of a potential propane powered servile robot.

The future is now old man.

[Ethel mermania]

well he did say it is fun to steal something and get away with it.

You know, a propane or kerosine powered robot would have its uses honestly. Could generate more power than batteries and last longer, and with proper heat spreading, the waste heat could be used to keep the skin warm.

Win - win.

how would you keep the engine stable?

[Galloism]

You know, a propane or kerosine powered robot would have its uses honestly. Could generate more power than batteries and last longer, and with proper heat spreading, the waste heat could be used to keep the skin warm.

Win - win.

how would you keep the engine stable?

Well, we could use that MIT pressure wave motor. It's much smaller and is roughly 80% efficient.

Since it's continuous speed, it should be relatively easy to stabilize.

[Ethel mermania]

how would you keep the engine stable?

Well, we could use that MIT pressure wave motor. It's much smaller and is roughly 80% efficient.

Since it's continuous speed, it should be relatively easy to stabilize.

its going to look like a donut, i dont want a donut shaped sex robot. a donut shaped human is much cheaper

[Galloism]

Well, we could use that MIT pressure wave motor. It's much smaller and is roughly 80% efficient.

Since it's continuous speed, it should be relatively easy to stabilize.

its going to look like a donut, i dont want a donut shaped sex robot. a donut shaped human is much cheaper

You put the motor in the torso near the bottom. You could use the uh... sheath to absorb the vibration.

[Ethel mermania]

its going to look like a donut, i dont want a donut shaped sex robot. a donut shaped human is much cheaper

You put the motor in the torso near the bottom. You could use the uh... sheath to absorb the vibration.

that would be the source of heat. the vibration would probably would be a positive.

[Neanderthaland]

its going to look like a donut, i dont want a donut shaped sex robot. a donut shaped human is much cheaper

You put the motor in the torso near the bottom. You could use the uh... sheath to absorb the vibration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtJzF6P ... be&t=4m36s

[Galloism]

You put the motor in the torso near the bottom. You could use the uh... sheath to absorb the vibration.

that would be the source of heat. the vibration would probably would be a positive.

Exactly. I'm telling you - we're on to something here.

[Neo Humanity]

that would be the source of heat. the vibration would probably would be a positive.

Exactly. I'm telling you - we're on to something here.

But whatever you guys are on to, I can't help but feel sad about it.