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Are upcoming sex robots going to normalize male aggression?

Yes, they're going to increase violence.
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Postby Topoliani » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:46 am

Purpelia wrote:Speaking of these sex robots is there anywhere I could find out more detail about the actual machine in question as opposed to insane feminist ravings on the subject?

I second this, I need to know for... research
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:28 am

Topoliani wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Speaking of these sex robots is there anywhere I could find out more detail about the actual machine in question as opposed to insane feminist ravings on the subject?

I second this, I need to know for... research

Research indeed. Like I am fascinated with the material science questions for one. What would they be using for a skin substitute? And what about the mechanics too? Like if its going to be anything more than a fancy inert blow up doll that thing is going to need a full blown robot inside of it. And as a programmer I find the software issues alone in that to be fascinating. Let alone the robotics aspects which are also fascinating. Like we need data people. And I can't just go google sex robot because all I'll get is porn crap and not the actual data I need.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:58 am

What is up with your obsession with sex robots? Also can we get a reasonable option in the poll?

Yes men are bad

No men are evil

And other insult to male

Is some very poorly done polling. You've basically made up your heavily rad fem biased mind up and are trying to force everyone to agree with you.
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Postby Hirota » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:26 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:What is up with your obsession with sex robots? Also can we get a reasonable option in the poll?

Yes men are bad

No men are evil

And other insult to male

Is some very poorly done polling. You've basically made up your heavily rad fem biased mind up and are trying to force everyone to agree with you.
On the upside, if there is something the NSG community is pretty good at doing, it's calling out the bullshit.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:28 am

Hirota wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:What is up with your obsession with sex robots? Also can we get a reasonable option in the poll?

Yes men are bad

No men are evil

And other insult to male

Is some very poorly done polling. You've basically made up your heavily rad fem biased mind up and are trying to force everyone to agree with you.
On the upside, if there is something the NSG community is pretty good at doing, it's calling out the bullshit.


There's so much bullshit calling going on here, some of us must have been farmers in our past lives.

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Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:58 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:What is up with your obsession with sex robots?

I am a software engineer with a liking for robotics. I find humanoid robotics in general to be fascinating. And a sex robot is particularly fascinating because, by virtue of its purpose it is literally the one application where the goal is primarily and fully to achieve as near of a human likeness in all ways as is possible. And that's difficult and fascinating and something robotics in general has been struggling with for a long time. So the subject is fascinating to me.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:31 am

Purpelia wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:What is up with your obsession with sex robots?

I am a software engineer with a liking for robotics. I find humanoid robotics in general to be fascinating. And a sex robot is particularly fascinating because, by virtue of its purpose it is literally the one application where the goal is primarily and fully to achieve as near of a human likeness in all ways as is possible. And that's difficult and fascinating and something robotics in general has been struggling with for a long time. So the subject is fascinating to me.

Robots are fun...but then that is my area of expertise. What makes this one in particular so fascinating is that they not only have to look human like, they also have to feel somewhat human like. I actually think that might be the harder part of this entire thing.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:55 am

Albrenia wrote:
Hirota wrote:On the upside, if there is something the NSG community is pretty good at doing, it's calling out the bullshit.


There's so much bullshit calling going on here, some of us must have been farmers in our past lives.

I think I was a fertilser manufacutrer and retailer there's so much shit. hell, probably made gunpowder as well.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:30 am

Polvatsiya wrote:i love how people think that a realistic sex robot is the same as a real woman.


Supposedly, that is the dream. People want to accurately simulate the sensation of sexual intercourse without having to rely on another person. I don't think this is possible, but perhaps it might some day. I wouldn't know. This has been a surprisingly long quest that many people over many years have worked towards, people have wanted to make a vagina that is life like without it actually being real- for forever.

This is a double edged sword. Yes, women might lose some leverage over men. But on the flip side, men probably won't pester women for sex as often, and vice versa- if there are more ways for people to have fun without needing someone else's participation.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:35 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I am a software engineer with a liking for robotics. I find humanoid robotics in general to be fascinating. And a sex robot is particularly fascinating because, by virtue of its purpose it is literally the one application where the goal is primarily and fully to achieve as near of a human likeness in all ways as is possible. And that's difficult and fascinating and something robotics in general has been struggling with for a long time. So the subject is fascinating to me.

Robots are fun...but then that is my area of expertise. What makes this one in particular so fascinating is that they not only have to look human like, they also have to feel somewhat human like. I actually think that might be the harder part of this entire thing.

Well, I've been reading some of the more academic articles on the subject, and it appears the main problem with the material being used is warming it. Humans produce a lot of heat energy that keeps our skin warm. However, keeping a robot's skin warm requires more energy than we really can invest in it unless we want to keep the robot plugged in all the time. Otherwise, it drains the batteries fast.

And skin that feels like human skin but is cold or room temperature creeps us out.
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Postby Kaitjan » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:29 am

In other words, Chessmistress is just writing stupid shit again. What's new?
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:37 am

Kaitjan wrote:In other words, Chessmistress is just writing stupid shit again. What's new?

That's what I was saying. She has created this same damn thread before. She is obsessed with sex robots and in her demented mind nobody should be allowed to disagree. It's pathetic.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:21 am

Galloism wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Robots are fun...but then that is my area of expertise. What makes this one in particular so fascinating is that they not only have to look human like, they also have to feel somewhat human like. I actually think that might be the harder part of this entire thing.

Well, I've been reading some of the more academic articles on the subject, and it appears the main problem with the material being used is warming it. Humans produce a lot of heat energy that keeps our skin warm. However, keeping a robot's skin warm requires more energy than we really can invest in it unless we want to keep the robot plugged in all the time. Otherwise, it drains the batteries fast.

And skin that feels like human skin but is cold or room temperature creeps us out.

That was mainly what I was thinking about actually.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:34 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, I've been reading some of the more academic articles on the subject, and it appears the main problem with the material being used is warming it. Humans produce a lot of heat energy that keeps our skin warm. However, keeping a robot's skin warm requires more energy than we really can invest in it unless we want to keep the robot plugged in all the time. Otherwise, it drains the batteries fast.

And skin that feels like human skin but is cold or room temperature creeps us out.

That was mainly what I was thinking about actually.

There's some fairly promising research (from Toyota, of all people) for batteries that are solid state and can be charged much faster and, in addition, would have twice the energy density.

If that works out, we may be able to have warm touch robots - they'd need to charge every hour or so, but if charging only took 5 minutes, that's not a big deal.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:36 am

Galloism wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:That was mainly what I was thinking about actually.

There's some fairly promising research (from Toyota, of all people) for batteries that are solid state and can be charged much faster and, in addition, would have twice the energy density.

If that works out, we may be able to have warm touch robots - they'd need to charge every hour or so, but if charging only took 5 minutes, that's not a big deal.

Actually it makes sense for a car company to be looking into batteries, especially if they are looking to get into electric cars. I will look into this batter thing since it sounds interesting.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:41 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Galloism wrote:There's some fairly promising research (from Toyota, of all people) for batteries that are solid state and can be charged much faster and, in addition, would have twice the energy density.

If that works out, we may be able to have warm touch robots - they'd need to charge every hour or so, but if charging only took 5 minutes, that's not a big deal.

Actually it makes sense for a car company to be looking into batteries, especially if they are looking to get into electric cars. I will look into this batter thing since it sounds interesting.


And I was thing go to tesla for the batteries, going to make that sex doll heavy though.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:46 am

Galloism wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Robots are fun...but then that is my area of expertise. What makes this one in particular so fascinating is that they not only have to look human like, they also have to feel somewhat human like. I actually think that might be the harder part of this entire thing.

Well, I've been reading some of the more academic articles on the subject, and it appears the main problem with the material being used is warming it. Humans produce a lot of heat energy that keeps our skin warm. However, keeping a robot's skin warm requires more energy than we really can invest in it unless we want to keep the robot plugged in all the time. Otherwise, it drains the batteries fast.

And skin that feels like human skin but is cold or room temperature creeps us out.

Except for the assistant at the morgue. And vampire fetishists.
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:17 pm

No.

Sex robots are meant to replicate another the actions and emotions of another human in order to replicate intimacy. As a result, the ultimate sex robot in the future would be one with replicated emotions and needs, one that functions and acts human. Therefore, that hypothetical sex robot would not simply allow for "male aggression", preventing its normalization.

Also I'm pretty sure those guys were fucking around with that sex robot, I really doubt that they would actually sexually assault women.

Even if we assume future sex robots will encourage "male aggression", its still better than the alternative. I'd rather have rapists rape something that replicates human emotion, and not cause any harm to someone else than someone with human emotions.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:34 am

Albrenia wrote:
Hirota wrote:On the upside, if there is something the NSG community is pretty good at doing, it's calling out the bullshit.


There's so much bullshit calling going on here, some of us must have been farmers in our past lives.


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Postby Albrenia » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:39 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
There's so much bullshit calling going on here, some of us must have been farmers in our past lives.


I can see sheep from my bedroom window.


Chickens keep shitting on my front porch.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:53 am

Albrenia wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
I can see sheep from my bedroom window.


Chickens keep shitting on my front porch.


I have the same issue with ducks. But this is getting off topic.

Republic of Coldwater wrote:Even if we assume future sex robots will encourage "male aggression", its still better than the alternative. I'd rather have rapists rape something that replicates human emotion, and not cause any harm to someone else than someone with human emotions.


Sex bots give men options, because women are no longer the gatekeepers of sex. Western feminists still need men to rape women so that they can go to the government and demand stricter laws regarding how men and women interact with each other sexually, because ultimately, Western third wave feminism is about establishing control over men and putting women in a position of power and privilege in society, even more so than they already are now. Sex robots threaten that because men will no longer need women to be sexually, and eventually emotionally, satisfied. Remove women from being the gatekeepers of sex and the whole third wave feminist agenda goes to shit.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:26 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Chickens keep shitting on my front porch.


I have the same issue with ducks. But this is getting off topic.

Republic of Coldwater wrote:Even if we assume future sex robots will encourage "male aggression", its still better than the alternative. I'd rather have rapists rape something that replicates human emotion, and not cause any harm to someone else than someone with human emotions.


Sex bots give men options, because women are no longer the gatekeepers of sex. Western feminists still need men to rape women so that they can go to the government and demand stricter laws regarding how men and women interact with each other sexually, because ultimately, Western third wave feminism is about establishing control over men and putting women in a position of power and privilege in society, even more so than they already are now. Sex robots threaten that because men will no longer need women to be sexually, and eventually emotionally, satisfied. Remove women from being the gatekeepers of sex and the whole third wave feminist agenda goes to shit.

I fail to see how the bots are all that different from the blowup dolls as far as sex is concerned. If those blow up dolls do not stop this "gatekeeping" then neither will the sex robots.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:36 am

Neutraligon wrote:I fail to see how the bots are all that different from the blowup dolls as far as sex is concerned. If those blow up dolls do not stop this "gatekeeping" then neither will the sex robots.


That's like suggesting that there's no difference between an unmanned spy drone and one of those miniature drones you can by off Amazon. You're a self-professed expert in robotics, right? Surely you can see the difference between what is essentially an inflatable pool toy and a piece of machinery that feels and acts as close to a human as technology currently allows us to get for a reasonable market price.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:14 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I fail to see how the bots are all that different from the blowup dolls as far as sex is concerned. If those blow up dolls do not stop this "gatekeeping" then neither will the sex robots.


That's like suggesting that there's no difference between an unmanned spy drone and one of those miniature drones you can by off Amazon. You're a self-professed expert in robotics, right? Surely you can see the difference between what is essentially an inflatable pool toy and a piece of machinery that feels and acts as close to a human as technology currently allows us to get for a reasonable market price.

Given that I doubt it feels or acts all that human right now yes I see very little difference. And if they feel and act as close to human as possible then all you have done is change the gatekeeper.
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Postby Baltenstein » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:15 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:Also I'm pretty sure those guys were fucking around with that sex robot


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