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Are upcoming sex robots going to normalize male aggression?

Yes, they're going to increase violence.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:23 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I fail to see the concern.

Its a sex robot; its meant to be exploited. That's its true purpose. The charter does not apply to sex robots.

This.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:29 am

Sex bots - the yet peak of western hedonism and why I will be moving to Russia in a couple of months...
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:30 am

Republic of the Cristo wrote:Sex bots - the yet peak of western hedonism and why I will be moving to Russia in a couple of months...

We'll probably be selling sexbots to Russians after we get the kinks worked out. And weatherize them against the winter cold.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:31 am

Republic of the Cristo wrote:Sex bots - the yet peak of western hedonism and why I will be moving to Russia in a couple of months...

You think Russia will be safe?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:40 am

Sovaal wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I fail to see the concern.

Its a sex robot; its meant to be exploited. That's its true purpose. The charter does not apply to sex robots.

This.


How much do they cost by the way?

Is this a rich only privilege or can anyone reasonably afford?

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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:42 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Sovaal wrote:This.


How much do they cost by the way?

Is this a rich only privilege or can anyone reasonably afford?

They're pretty much a rich people thing right now.

But like most rich people things, they'll probably come down in price over the next couple decades.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:43 am

Galloism wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
How much do they cost by the way?

Is this a rich only privilege or can anyone reasonably afford?

They're pretty much a rich people thing right now.

But like most rich people things, they'll probably come down in price over the next couple decades.

Just watch out for Indian sourced models. They have a tendecy of killing partners and uploading to Skynet.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:43 am

Galloism wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
How much do they cost by the way?

Is this a rich only privilege or can anyone reasonably afford?

They're pretty much a rich people thing right now.

But like most rich people things, they'll probably come down in price over the next couple decades.


I see...

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Postby Chessmistress » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:27 pm

Arkinesia wrote:So let me get this straight.

You're gonna worry about a sex robot—a hypothetical future problem, and not, say, “the lovable chauvinist” trope in television, a real, current problem.

Okay.


Because that's going to be a bigger problem, a much bigger problem on the long run, that's why it's so worrying.
Another article from The Guardian, September 25 2017
Should we ban sex robots while we have the chance?
by Jenny Kleeman

Excerpt
Sex robots exist purely to satisfy their owners. Is any sexual relationship healthy if it’s only ever about one person’s pleasure? Can sex with a robot ever be consensual? This isn’t about robot rights – it’s about the kind of sex that will become normal within human societies if we start having sex with robots.

Child sex dolls have been banned in the UK because of fears they will encourage the desire to abuse among paedophiles, rather than simply sate it. Parker is calling for a similar ban for all sex robots. But while we might be able to stop them being imported or manufactured here, we can’t stop them being developed overseas.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lls-market

It's a future problem, not "an hypothetical future problem", and it's way closer than you think.
I'm not going to link the other article, but it's on Metro, the date is September 24 2017, it says the first model is already on sale for £3,500 at Vibez Adult Boutique in Aylesford, Kent. :(
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:34 pm

Chessmistress wrote:Because that's going to be a bigger problem, a much bigger problem on the long run, that's why it's so worrying.


A hypothetical problem people are screeching about without even a single shred of credible evidence.

It's like people shrieking that video games will destroy the youth.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Polvatsiya » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:35 pm

"Male aggression" is a natural result of testosterone.
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:37 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:So let me get this straight.

You're gonna worry about a sex robot—a hypothetical future problem, and not, say, “the lovable chauvinist” trope in television, a real, current problem.

Okay.


Because that's going to be a bigger problem, a much bigger problem on the long run, that's why it's so worrying.

The actual problem here is that you assume it will even be a problem.
As this is a social issue, we are literally incapable of knowing if it will be a problem or not until it's popular enough to know either way. The Internet could've been a problem. We should have banned it while we still had the chance. Or the printing press. Or the wheel. Or farming. Life was better when we were starving in the jungles...
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:39 pm

Polvatsiya wrote:"Male aggression" is a natural result of testosterone.

"Male aggression" is largely an overblown myth when it comes to interpersonal relationships. Women are more likely to be physically aggressive with their partners than men.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Hirota » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:39 pm

Galloism wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:Because that's going to be a bigger problem, a much bigger problem on the long run, that's why it's so worrying.


A hypothetical problem people are screeching about without even a single shred of credible evidence.

It's like people shrieking that video games will destroy the youth.
Might as well post about a thousand other stupid hypotheticals and create their own forum threads.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:42 pm

Hirota wrote:
Galloism wrote:
A hypothetical problem people are screeching about without even a single shred of credible evidence.

It's like people shrieking that video games will destroy the youth.
Might as well post about a thousand other stupid hypotheticals and create their own forum threads.

Well... yes.

However, I like the video games one because there's lots of screeching with literally zero evidence - just like Chess's notions regarding sexbots.

But hey, at least she's consistent. She wants to ban vibrators and dildos too.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:44 pm

Galloism wrote:
Hirota wrote:Might as well post about a thousand other stupid hypotheticals and create their own forum threads.

Well... yes.

However, I like the video games one because there's lots of screeching with literally zero evidence - just like Chess's notions regarding sexbots.

But hey, at least she's consistent. She wants to ban vibrators and dildos too.

More consistent than wanting to ban robots because they're spoopy.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:15 pm

Maybe. Or maybe, it will alienate men so badly from women that they'll forget entirely how to do the sex.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:29 pm

Male aggression is abnormal?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:55 pm

While I reject the premise that sex robots would increase violence against sex robots. If it were true I would rather the robot get beat up than a human being, so I see it as a positive.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:14 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:While I reject the premise that sex robots would increase violence against sex robots. If it were true I would rather the robot get beat up than a human being, so I see it as a positive.

I'm not even sure how "violence against <an inanimate object>" works. That's just destruction.

Wrecking ball operators = violent patriarchs
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:16 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Sovaal wrote:This.


How much do they cost by the way?

Is this a rich only privilege or can anyone reasonably afford?


Cheapest ones are $400, you pay a lot more if you want yours customised.

The New Sea Territory wrote:Maybe. Or maybe, it will alienate men so badly from women that they'll forget entirely how to do the sex.


Nah. Men will still have sex, just without women.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:18 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:So let me get this straight.

You're gonna worry about a sex robot—a hypothetical future problem, and not, say, “the lovable chauvinist” trope in television, a real, current problem.

Okay.


Because that's going to be a bigger problem, a much bigger problem on the long run, that's why it's so worrying.
Another article from The Guardian, September 25 2017
Should we ban sex robots while we have the chance?
by Jenny Kleeman

Excerpt
Sex robots exist purely to satisfy their owners. Is any sexual relationship healthy if it’s only ever about one person’s pleasure? Can sex with a robot ever be consensual? This isn’t about robot rights – it’s about the kind of sex that will become normal within human societies if we start having sex with robots.

Child sex dolls have been banned in the UK because of fears they will encourage the desire to abuse among paedophiles, rather than simply sate it. Parker is calling for a similar ban for all sex robots. But while we might be able to stop them being imported or manufactured here, we can’t stop them being developed overseas.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lls-market

It's a future problem, not "an hypothetical future problem", and it's way closer than you think.
I'm not going to link the other article, but it's on Metro, the date is September 24 2017, it says the first model is already on sale for £3,500 at Vibez Adult Boutique in Aylesford, Kent. :(

No, it's a hypothetical problem with hypothetical consequences.

Most people are smart enough to realize the difference between fiction, the robot, and reality, human partners. Unless we like let kids be raised just trashing and screwing this thing I don't see as to what the problem is.
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Herador » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:While I reject the premise that sex robots would increase violence against sex robots. If it were true I would rather the robot get beat up than a human being, so I see it as a positive.

I'm not even sure how "violence against <an inanimate object>" works. That's just destruction.

Wrecking ball operators = violent patriarchs

Buildings have holes through which you enter and exit, the proof is right there.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:37 pm

Herador wrote:
Galloism wrote:I'm not even sure how "violence against <an inanimate object>" works. That's just destruction.

Wrecking ball operators = violent patriarchs

Buildings have holes through which you enter and exit, the proof is right there.

And those big iron balls are obviously representing the oppressive male genitalia.

Help, the crazy goes deeper!
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:22 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:While I reject the premise that sex robots would increase violence against sex robots. If it were true I would rather the robot get beat up than a human being, so I see it as a positive.

I'm not even sure how "violence against <an inanimate object>" works. That's just destruction.

Wrecking ball operators = violent patriarchs

Well they are volent against brick walls. :roll:
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