Are upcoming sex robots going to normalize male aggression?

[Galloism]

Any particular reason?

No it's quite different. We should be encouraging meaningful and equal relationships between people as the building blocks of society. Not celebrating the perversion of the human form through simulated sex slavery.

I'll point out that there are semi trucks full of vibrating dildos and vibrators of various sizes and shapes rolling down the interstate right now, headed to stores for sale.

Mastubatorial aids are a bit different than partner surrogates.

Of course, people leave what they mean by "sex robot" conveniently undefined. Because that can mean a whole lot of different things. Are we talking about real dolls that can articulate and try to simulate various coital acts? Or are we talking about the application of artificial general intelligence to fill the partner shaped hole in people's lives?

I'm not sure what the difference is.

It's not uncommon for women to name their dildos or vibrators (at least in my experience). I don't see how it's different by adding more parts and making it more complex.

[Galloism]

Given this doesn't seem like a field MS or Apple would either one want to be involved in, it's fairly likely it'll be running Linux anyway.

Windows 10 embedded exists.

Hmm... now you've given me ideas.

"now you've given me ideas" is a bad phrase to use in a sexbot thread, IMO.

[Bakery Hill]

Mastubatorial aids are a bit different than partner surrogates.

Of course, people leave what they mean by "sex robot" conveniently undefined. Because that can mean a whole lot of different things. Are we talking about real dolls that can articulate and try to simulate various coital acts? Or are we talking about the application of artificial general intelligence to fill the partner shaped hole in people's lives?

I'm not sure what the difference is.

It's not uncommon for women to name their dildos or vibrators (at least in my experience). I don't see how it's different by adding more parts and making it more complex.

If you can't see a difference there, I don't know where to begin.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Dildos and all that are fun. This is basically just slapping a face and body on them to add a little more to the experience.

No it's quite different. We should be encouraging meaningful and equal relationships between people as the building blocks of society. Not celebrating the perversion of the human form through simulated sex slavery.

Honestly, a machine shaped like a human is still a machine.

[Senkaku]

Crazy people? In Orlando?! Orlando, Florida??!

Gallo, I've never heard such nonsense.

Live in Florida a couple years, and you'll have a whole new outlook on the world. This I guarantee.

FLORIDA MAN, FLORIDA MAN

DOES EVERYTHING THAT FLORIDA CAN

Well, a little corrective rape and a quick marriage to Cousin Jim usually sorts out your average Arkansas lesbian before she gets that far along.

Sadly, corrective rape is something gay men and women both suffer. I am going to do a thread on that one day. Sadly, it's pretty well beyond the scope of this one.

/sigh

This world sucks.

Yep, it does.

However, as I edited into my other post (very slowly so I think you missed it, idk), part of the reason I'm more inclined to listen to you when you talk about men's issues is that in the past, I haven't seen you try and make their existence into the kind of assault on women (and women's issues, which do exist) that some other posters here do. You should consider that, if you make a corrective rape thread or really just in general- perhaps modern extreme feminism is an ideological factor that damages recognition of men's issues, but it oughtn't make us blind to the fact that just as men face issues women don't, women face issues men don't, especially in non-Western countries. Nor should the fact that men have issues too be used as some posters here like to use it- a misogynistic cudgel.

anyways lol I should sleep in case I start making sense

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Windows 10 embedded exists.

Hmm... now you've given me ideas.

"now you've given me ideas" is a bad phrase to use in a sexbot thread, IMO.

You're talking to the guy who wants to put a bottle opener in a bot's vagina.

At this point, that's basically "potato, potatoe".

[Senkaku]

Any particular reason?

No it's quite different. We should be encouraging meaningful and equal relationships between people as the building blocks of society. Not celebrating the perversion of the human form through simulated sex slavery.

TIL using a dildo while masturbating is "simulated sex slavery"

I'm not sure what the difference is.

It's not uncommon for women to name their dildos or vibrators (at least in my experience). I don't see how it's different by adding more parts and making it more complex.

If you can't see a difference there, I don't know where to begin.

"it has multiple orifices intended for masturbatory purposes, not just one!"
"oh no! red alert!"

[Bakery Hill]

No it's quite different. We should be encouraging meaningful and equal relationships between people as the building blocks of society. Not celebrating the perversion of the human form through simulated sex slavery.

Honestly, a machine shaped like a human is still a machine.

Yes, and? That's not my primary concern.

[Galloism]

If you can't see a difference there, I don't know where to begin.

Well, let me put it this way.

My first computer was a windows 95 machine with one monitor, and would do only that which I specifically told it to do.

My computer now has four monitors, voice recognition, is interfaced with part of the house (and we will be stepping up her interface as we go), and, thanks to the type of work I do, has a virtual assistant that recognizes what I want and gives it to me (changing the temperature of the house when I sit down). She can control the lighting for best video capture (since I spend a lot of time at work on video), can take dictation, and even asks me how I'm doing when I sit down to work.

She's still just a machine. She's a larger more complex machine than what I have used previously, but she's still just a machine.

So, at what point does that become problematic?

[Senkaku]

Mastubatorial aids are a bit different than partner surrogates.

Of course, people leave what they mean by "sex robot" conveniently undefined. Because that can mean a whole lot of different things. Are we talking about real dolls that can articulate and try to simulate various coital acts? Or are we talking about the application of artificial general intelligence to fill the partner shaped hole in people's lives?

Nothing is now beyond the reach of perversity. The latter will happen.

When we get to that point, that's an issue for legislation on the rights of AIs. We haven't, however, and we won't for a while, so for now we're just talking about fancy overgrown fleshlights.

[Bakery Hill]

TIL using a dildo while masturbating is "simulated sex slavery"

If you can't see a difference there, I don't know where to begin.

"it has multiple orifices intended for masturbatory purposes, not just one!"
"oh no! red alert!"

Wow. You people honestly can't or are not willing to see the difference can you? Poor souls.

[Senkaku]

Honestly, a machine shaped like a human is still a machine.

Yes, and? That's not my primary concern.

Good luck enforcing your masturbation ban lmao~

[Dooom35796821595]

If you can't see a difference there, I don't know where to begin.

Well, let me put it this way.

My first computer was a windows 95 machine with one monitor, and would do only that which I specifically told it to do.

My computer now has four monitors, voice recognition, is interfaced with part of the house (and we will be stepping up her interface as we go), and, thanks to the type of work I do, has a virtual assistant that recognizes what I want and gives it to me (changing the temperature of the house when I sit down). She can control the lighting for best video capture (since I spend a lot of time at work on video), can take dictation, and even asks me how I'm doing when I sit down to work.

She's still just a machine. She's a larger more complex machine than what I have used previously, but she's still just a machine.

So, at what point does that become problematic?

When it starts asking if it has a soul.

[The East Marches II]

TIL using a dildo while masturbating is "simulated sex slavery"



"it has multiple orifices intended for masturbatory purposes, not just one!"
"oh no! red alert!"

Wow. You people honestly can't or are not willing to see the difference can you? Poor souls.

>tfw no robo slaves with which to build ancapistan

One day we won't need your sort anymore Bakery, one day

[Senkaku]

TIL using a dildo while masturbating is "simulated sex slavery"



"it has multiple orifices intended for masturbatory purposes, not just one!"
"oh no! red alert!"

Wow. You people honestly can't or are not willing to see the difference can you? Poor souls.

It's literally adding a couple of extra moving parts to a toy. Methinks someone is getting worked up into a moral panic.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Honestly, a machine shaped like a human is still a machine.

Yes, and? That's not my primary concern.

I know what your primary concern is.

I just don't think your primary concern is a valid one, considering the differences between machines and actual human beings.

I don't consider talking to a bot I know is a bot any more human than the processor in my computer, nor resembling of any sort of real human relationship, because I know they are following instructions from their set of instructions. They're not really "people", so the notion that they're anything other than machines and that they can influence how people relate to one another is an area where I hold skepticism.

[Senkaku]

Well, let me put it this way.

My first computer was a windows 95 machine with one monitor, and would do only that which I specifically told it to do.

My computer now has four monitors, voice recognition, is interfaced with part of the house (and we will be stepping up her interface as we go), and, thanks to the type of work I do, has a virtual assistant that recognizes what I want and gives it to me (changing the temperature of the house when I sit down). She can control the lighting for best video capture (since I spend a lot of time at work on video), can take dictation, and even asks me how I'm doing when I sit down to work.

She's still just a machine. She's a larger more complex machine than what I have used previously, but she's still just a machine.

So, at what point does that become problematic?

When it starts asking if it has a soul.

Call me in like a century lmao

[Galloism]

Well, let me put it this way.

My first computer was a windows 95 machine with one monitor, and would do only that which I specifically told it to do.

My computer now has four monitors, voice recognition, is interfaced with part of the house (and we will be stepping up her interface as we go), and, thanks to the type of work I do, has a virtual assistant that recognizes what I want and gives it to me (changing the temperature of the house when I sit down). She can control the lighting for best video capture (since I spend a lot of time at work on video), can take dictation, and even asks me how I'm doing when I sit down to work.

She's still just a machine. She's a larger more complex machine than what I have used previously, but she's still just a machine.

So, at what point does that become problematic?

When it starts asking if it has a soul.

I should figure out if I can modify it to do that one day when Nana walks past it. It can tell the difference between us. It'd be funny to do just to see if she freaks out.

[Senkaku]

It can tell the difference between us.

You need one of these, I think

[Soldati Senza Confini]

When it starts asking if it has a soul.

I should figure out if I can modify it to do that one day when Nana walks past it. It can tell the difference between us. It'd be funny to do just to see if she freaks out.

If you can get a motion sensor and program your computer to say that as it detects motion, then it is perfectly possible

[Bakery Hill]

If you can't see a difference there, I don't know where to begin.

Well, let me put it this way.

My first computer was a windows 95 machine with one monitor, and would do only that which I specifically told it to do.

My computer now has four monitors, voice recognition, is interfaced with part of the house (and we will be stepping up her interface as we go), and, thanks to the type of work I do, has a virtual assistant that recognizes what I want and gives it to me (changing the temperature of the house when I sit down). She can control the lighting for best video capture (since I spend a lot of time at work on video), can take dictation, and even asks me how I'm doing when I sit down to work.

She's still just a machine. She's a larger more complex machine than what I have used previously, but she's still just a machine.

So, at what point does that become problematic?

You keep getting stuck on the nature of what is and what is not a machine. As I've said, that's not even my primary concern. Look at what me and Trots and even Liri have said again. We should be encouraging meaningful and equal relationships between people as the building blocks of society, this does the exact opposite.

This is a value based stance, based on what you want your society to look like. If you're pro some sort of Silicon Valley transhumanist hypercapitalist atomisation I don't expect you to give it much credence.

[Galloism]

I should figure out if I can modify it to do that one day when Nana walks past it. It can tell the difference between us. It'd be funny to do just to see if she freaks out.

If you can get a motion sensor and program your computer to say that as it detects motion, then it is perfectly possible

There's nothing else to do next saturday night.

[Senkaku]

You keep getting stuck on the nature of what is and what is not a machine. As I've said, that's not even my primary concern. Look at what me and Trots and even Liri have said again. We should be encouraging meaningful and equal relationships between people as the building blocks of society, this does the exact opposite.

Because if people use sex toys they can't have meaningful relationships, kids!

[Galloism]

Well, let me put it this way.

My first computer was a windows 95 machine with one monitor, and would do only that which I specifically told it to do.

My computer now has four monitors, voice recognition, is interfaced with part of the house (and we will be stepping up her interface as we go), and, thanks to the type of work I do, has a virtual assistant that recognizes what I want and gives it to me (changing the temperature of the house when I sit down). She can control the lighting for best video capture (since I spend a lot of time at work on video), can take dictation, and even asks me how I'm doing when I sit down to work.

She's still just a machine. She's a larger more complex machine than what I have used previously, but she's still just a machine.

So, at what point does that become problematic?

You keep getting stuck on the nature of what is and what is not a machine. As I've said, that's not even my primary concern. Look at what me and Trots and even Liri have said again. We should be encouraging meaningful and equal relationships between people as the building blocks of society, this does the exact opposite.

I mean, I'll say it doesn't encourage meaningful and equal relationships, but I don't see how it discourages it, anymore than my virtual assistant discourages meaningful and equal relationships because I no longer have a flesh and blood secretary. I also had a ham sandwich instead of going out to McDonalds for lunch where I'd have to interact with people.

This is a value based stance, based on what you want your society to look like. If you're pro some sort of Silicon Valley transhumanist hypercapitalist atomisation I don't expect you to give it much credence.

Consciousness singularity when?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well, let me put it this way.

My first computer was a windows 95 machine with one monitor, and would do only that which I specifically told it to do.

My computer now has four monitors, voice recognition, is interfaced with part of the house (and we will be stepping up her interface as we go), and, thanks to the type of work I do, has a virtual assistant that recognizes what I want and gives it to me (changing the temperature of the house when I sit down). She can control the lighting for best video capture (since I spend a lot of time at work on video), can take dictation, and even asks me how I'm doing when I sit down to work.

She's still just a machine. She's a larger more complex machine than what I have used previously, but she's still just a machine.

So, at what point does that become problematic?

You keep getting stuck on the nature of what is and what is not a machine. As I've said, that's not even my primary concern. Look at what me and Trots and even Liri have said again. We should be encouraging meaningful and equal relationships between people as the building blocks of society, this does the exact opposite.

This is a value based stance, based on what you want your society to look like. If you're pro some sort of Silicon Valley transhumanist hypercapitalist atomisation I don't expect you to give it much credence.

Meaningful relationships start with the parents being able to teach kids how to relate to other people, and to machiens.

How are sex robots going to change parenting in the future to the point where meaningful and equal relationships are not encouraged by parents as a social mechanism of success?