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Do you want to get married why or why not?

Yes because I want to live the rest of my life with my BF or GF cause I love them so much
148
25%
No, because I don't want to be stuck with someone for life
19
3%
Yes because of those sweet sweet tax cuts.
19
3%
No, because I would rather like life to the fullest and not settle down
53
9%
Yes because I want to have a stable home for my future kids
99
17%
No, because I want kids but not a wife/husband
9
2%
Yes, for religious reasons
53
9%
No, not now but later on in life maybe.
200
33%
 
Total votes : 600

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Postby Twilight Imperium » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:33 pm

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Petrolheadia wrote:If God is real, then I feel like somebody grabbed me and put me in a sadistic reality show.

It's not sadistic, since God has an inverse order: "Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them."


You're not doing a very good job of selling this.

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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:34 pm

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Albrenia wrote:So, about that marriage stuff...

Indeed, we are discussing polygamous marriage at the moment. Feel free to jump in, the more the merrier(!)


I don't really have a problem with polygamous marriage, in theory. So long as it's not just men or just women who get multiple spouses, and there's some way to sort out the legal mess if property disputes occur.

Also the usual thing of everyone involved having to be consenting adults.

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Postby Petrolheadia » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:35 pm

Also, if there is/was no God, would polygamy be OK?

Or is it just bad because the guy above says so?
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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:37 pm

Albrenia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Indeed, we are discussing polygamous marriage at the moment. Feel free to jump in, the more the merrier(!)


I don't really have a problem with polygamous marriage, in theory. So long as it's not just men or just women who get multiple spouses, and there's some way to sort out the legal mess if property disputes occur.

Also the usual thing of everyone involved having to be consenting adults.

How a few biologists believe it should be, both males and females should have the ability to have 2 life partners instead of just 1, seeing as how humans aren't naturally/biologically monogamous.
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Postby Keshiland » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:37 pm

Albrenia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Indeed, we are discussing polygamous marriage at the moment. Feel free to jump in, the more the merrier(!)


I don't really have a problem with polygamous marriage, in theory. So long as it's not just men or just women who get multiple spouses, and there's some way to sort out the legal mess if property disputes occur.

Also the usual thing of everyone involved having to be consenting adults.


I think it can work if its multiple wives, but not if its multiple husbands. Mostly when it comes to kids, You know whose is whose if there is 1 husband but if there are multiple then you don't and if something was to happen you would be screwed.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:38 pm

Keshiland wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
I don't really have a problem with polygamous marriage, in theory. So long as it's not just men or just women who get multiple spouses, and there's some way to sort out the legal mess if property disputes occur.

Also the usual thing of everyone involved having to be consenting adults.


I think it can work if its multiple wives, but not if its multiple husbands. Mostly when it comes to kids, You know whose is whose if there is 1 husband but if there are multiple then you don't and if something was to happen you would be screwed.

If they're one family, does it really matter whose kids are there?
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:38 pm

Albrenia wrote:So long as it's not just men or just women who get multiple spouses, and there's some way to sort out the legal mess if property disputes occur.

There is a possible way to solve that, by making all the people in the marriage a "legal person", like a corporation. I mentioned it a few pages ago.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:40 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Albrenia wrote:So long as it's not just men or just women who get multiple spouses, and there's some way to sort out the legal mess if property disputes occur.

There is a possible way to solve that, by making all the people in the marriage a "legal person", like a corporation. I mentioned it a few pages ago.


Just for the purposes of property, or like they all go to jail if one of them commits a crime?

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Postby Keshiland » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:40 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
I think it can work if its multiple wives, but not if its multiple husbands. Mostly when it comes to kids, You know whose is whose if there is 1 husband but if there are multiple then you don't and if something was to happen you would be screwed.

If they're one family, does it really matter whose kids are there?


Yes cause or else it will be very confusing for the child. Also can you imagine a divorce? HE IS MY KIDS! NO HES MY KID!
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Postby Petrolheadia » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:41 pm

Keshiland wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:If they're one family, does it really matter whose kids are there?


Yes cause or else it will be very confusing for the child. Also can you imagine a divorce? HE IS MY KIDS! NO HES MY KID!

First, we can assume everybody is a parent.

Second, DNA paternity tests are a thing.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:42 pm

Albrenia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:There is a possible way to solve that, by making all the people in the marriage a "legal person", like a corporation. I mentioned it a few pages ago.


Just for the purposes of property, or like they all go to jail if one of them commits a crime?

Just for property, it was purely hypothetical.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:43 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Just for the purposes of property, or like they all go to jail if one of them commits a crime?

Just for property, it was purely hypothetical.


Sounds reasonable on the face of it.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:43 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New haven america wrote:IIRC, some biologists even believe that it would be healthier for each human/partner should have 2 partners instead of 1.

My goodness, how ridiculous our society is! We can't even be depraved anymore without using scientific justification. We can't say, "I have sex with people because I lust," but, "Because it's healthy!"

Give me some non-religious viable sources that show that consenting non-monogamous relations are bad, I'll wait.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:44 pm

Keshiland wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:If they're one family, does it really matter whose kids are there?


Yes cause or else it will be very confusing for the child. Also can you imagine a divorce? HE IS MY KIDS! NO HES MY KID!

Have you even heard of thing called a DNA test?
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Postby Galloism » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:45 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
Yes cause or else it will be very confusing for the child. Also can you imagine a divorce? HE IS MY KIDS! NO HES MY KID!

First, we can assume everybody is a parent.

Second, DNA paternity tests are a thing.

I was going to say.

"DNA testing, how's it fuckin' work anyway?"
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:45 pm

We need Maury Povich to sort this out.

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Postby Keshiland » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:46 pm

New haven america wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
Yes cause or else it will be very confusing for the child. Also can you imagine a divorce? HE IS MY KIDS! NO HES MY KID!

Have you even heard of thing called a DNA test?


I was trying to find an excuse as to why brother husbands would be terrible other then men being to egotistical to handle sharing a wife.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:48 pm

Keshiland wrote:
New haven america wrote:Have you even heard of thing called a DNA test?


I was trying to find an excuse as to why brother husbands would be terrible other then men being to egotistical to handle sharing a wife.

You do realize that the men could have their own wives along with the one they're sharing, right?
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Postby Keshiland » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:52 pm

New haven america wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
I was trying to find an excuse as to why brother husbands would be terrible other then men being to egotistical to handle sharing a wife.

You do realize that the men could have their own wives along with the one they're sharing, right?


Wait so It could be

-----------------------------------------------------Wife
-------------------------------------------------------/\
-----------------------------------------------Husband Husbane
---------------------------------------------------I I
------------------------------------------------Wife Wife

Yeah that sound completely uncomplicated lol
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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:53 pm

Keshiland wrote:
New haven america wrote:You do realize that the men could have their own wives along with the one they're sharing, right?


Wait so It could be

Wife
/\
Husband Husbane
I I
Wife Wife

Yeah that sound completely uncomplicated lol

If we lived in a society where that happened it wouldn't be that complicated, as we'd all be used to it.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:55 pm

New haven america wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:If God is real, then I feel like somebody grabbed me and put me in a sadistic reality show.

Eh, that's mostly for the OT, the NT is much more relaxed (You know, what Christians are supposed to be following, yet don't do a very good job at).


Because you are such a Christian and would know :^)

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:56 pm

Keshiland wrote:Yeah that sound completely uncomplicated lol

The complexity of a thing is not an argument against the existence of said thing.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:58 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Keshiland wrote:Yeah that sound completely uncomplicated lol

The complexity of a thing is not an argument against the existence of said thing.


Well, unless you believe in Creationism... :p

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Postby Keshiland » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:58 pm

New haven america wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
Wait so It could be

Wife
/\
Husband Husbane
I I
Wife Wife

Yeah that sound completely uncomplicated lol

If we lived in a society where that happened it wouldn't be that complicated, as we'd all be used to it.


I would be okay witbh single poligamy legalised. Not this 1 man/woman with 2 or more woman/men with 2 or more men/women in long chains or circles. We would need a new amendment just to sort out the legal prossess for that.
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IC- The Federation of Keshiland stands for freedom and local governance. Requirements for state hood. A territory atleast 1,000 KL and a population of atleast 100k. Our Constitution keeps us free and can only be changed with a 3/4ths ratification of the states.

State count 135

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