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Do you want to get married why or why not?

Yes because I want to live the rest of my life with my BF or GF cause I love them so much
148
25%
No, because I don't want to be stuck with someone for life
19
3%
Yes because of those sweet sweet tax cuts.
19
3%
No, because I would rather like life to the fullest and not settle down
53
9%
Yes because I want to have a stable home for my future kids
99
17%
No, because I want kids but not a wife/husband
9
2%
Yes, for religious reasons
53
9%
No, not now but later on in life maybe.
200
33%
 
Total votes : 600

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:24 pm

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If you're only getting married for children then you're essentially using your wife as a baby factory.


Unless his wife only married him for children, in which case what are they then?

A baby factory complex.

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Postby Eisen Wolf Reich » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:24 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:Sources don't matter to Keshiland, he has repeatedly resisted using them before, I doubt he will start using them now. He is content with throwing any "fact" out there that even barely justifies his views, with little or no evidence to back it up.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... e-WW2.html


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Postby Keshiland » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:24 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
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I wouldn't call seeking marriage for the sake of children mysognisitic. There are plenty of women who seek marriage for the sake of women too. And no one is saying that he won't fall in love with a woman and pursue children with them, just that he himself said that he is seeking only the character of a good mother in a woman.

Good babymaker, that is.

A mother is too much of a human being for Keshi to bear.


I said if we have the same views on politics mariage and parenting we will get along great.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:25 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:I wouldn't call seeking marriage for the sake of children mysognisitic.

You need to look at the wider context of what Keshiland has been saying, it isn't just a matter of being in a marriage for the sake of wanting children, that is a massive understatement. His views are far deeper and more disturbing than that.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:25 pm

Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Sources don't matter to Keshiland, he has repeatedly resisted using them before, I doubt he will start using them now. He is content with throwing any "fact" out there that even barely justifies his views, with little or no evidence to back it up.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... e-WW2.html

First and last just mean my generation has some brain functions. The middle is just one thing.

Where is the "guns are cool" thing?
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Postby Segral » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:25 pm

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I'm sorry, you said something about mini-keshilands and I couldn't make myself resist.

You forgot about Mrs. Keshiland, chained to the wall and plopping out more, and her parents, behind bars for conservatism. :)


There will never be a Mrs Keshiland, no woman will marry this guy.
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Postby Torisakia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:25 pm

I'm destined to be forever alone, but if I was living a different life I wouldn't mind marriage. Not sure for what reasons though. Probably tax purposes.
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Postby Eisen Wolf Reich » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:26 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:I wouldn't call seeking marriage for the sake of children mysognisitic.

You need to look at the wider context of what Keshiland has been saying, it isn't just a matter of being in a marriage for the sake of wanting children, that is a massive understatement. His views are far deeper and more disturbing than that.


Pls explain as I don't have time to go review all his posts to look at this big picture.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:28 pm

Keshiland wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Good babymaker, that is.

A mother is too much of a human being for Keshi to bear.


I said if we have the same views on politics mariage and parenting we will get along great.

I think buying a slave would be better in your case.
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:28 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:I wouldn't call seeking marriage for the sake of children mysognisitic. There are plenty of women who seek marriage for the sake of women too. And no one is saying that he won't fall in love with a woman and pursue children with them, just that he himself said that he is seeking only the character of a good mother in a woman.
Check out Keshilands posting history earlier in this thread and in the abortion thread. He has stated a desire to own a woman solely for procreation, rejects loving her, intends to let her own nothing on her own, and when she's done being his breeding stock, kick her out with nothing. He will also immobilise her physically, ostracise her socially and abuse her emotionally.
A marriage (edit: solely) for the sake of children is, IMO, very close to mysoginistic. Keshiland doesn't seek that, his fantasies are much, much worse.
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Postby Eisen Wolf Reich » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:28 pm

Also, I would just like to say that even though I am totally straight, me and my best friend have a arrangement that after college we will get married for the tax breaks. And when one of us finds a woman we wish to marry we will simply divorce.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

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Postby Eisen Wolf Reich » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:29 pm

Attempted Socialism wrote:
Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:I wouldn't call seeking marriage for the sake of children mysognisitic. There are plenty of women who seek marriage for the sake of women too. And no one is saying that he won't fall in love with a woman and pursue children with them, just that he himself said that he is seeking only the character of a good mother in a woman.
Check out Keshilands posting history earlier in this thread and in the abortion thread. He has stated a desire to own a woman solely for procreation, rejects loving her, intends to let her own nothing on her own, and when she's done being his breeding stock, kick her out with nothing. He will also immobilise her physically, ostracise her socially and abuse her emotionally.
A marriage (edit: solely) for the sake of children is, IMO, very close to mysoginistic. Keshiland doesn't seek that, his fantasies are much, much worse.


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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:29 pm

Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Sources don't matter to Keshiland, he has repeatedly resisted using them before, I doubt he will start using them now. He is content with throwing any "fact" out there that even barely justifies his views, with little or no evidence to back it up.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... e-WW2.html

A tabloid newspaper is not a reputable source. You tried that trick on the wrong person, as I am British, and the Daily Mail is a British newspaper, so I know all about the kind of nonsense that they report. Try again, Keshiland, try again.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:29 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You need to look at the wider context of what Keshiland has been saying, it isn't just a matter of being in a marriage for the sake of wanting children, that is a massive understatement. His views are far deeper and more disturbing than that.


Pls explain as I don't have time to go review all his posts to look at this big picture.

Guy wants a slave, who can churn out little liberals, and has parents with $5k to spare on a "honeymoon".

Understand now?
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Postby Segral » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:30 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:Also, I would just like to say that even though I am totally straight, me and my best friend have a arrangement that after college we will get married for the tax breaks. And when one of us finds a woman we wish to marry we will simply divorce.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?


Jesus Christ, don't do that. Mairrage is a huge commitment, and if it's not for the long haul, then there's no point.
yea bro idk

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Postby Petrolheadia » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:30 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:Also, I would just like to say that even though I am totally straight, me and my best friend have a arrangement that after college we will get married for the tax breaks. And when one of us finds a woman we wish to marry we will simply divorce.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

What have you been smoking?
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Postby Eisen Wolf Reich » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:31 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:
Pls explain as I don't have time to go review all his posts to look at this big picture.

Guy wants a slave, who can churn out little liberals, and has parents with $5k to spare on a "honeymoon".

Understand now?


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Postby Eisen Wolf Reich » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:31 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:Also, I would just like to say that even though I am totally straight, me and my best friend have a arrangement that after college we will get married for the tax breaks. And when one of us finds a woman we wish to marry we will simply divorce.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

What have you been smoking?


Well, there are lots of legal benefits to being married.

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Postby Eisen Wolf Reich » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:32 pm

Segral wrote:
Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:Also, I would just like to say that even though I am totally straight, me and my best friend have a arrangement that after college we will get married for the tax breaks. And when one of us finds a woman we wish to marry we will simply divorce.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?


Jesus Christ, don't do that. Mairrage is a huge commitment, and if it's not for the long haul, then there's no point.


BUT ALL THE LEGAL BENEFITS. also according to the law, as long as we are legally married we don't even have to live in the same state, and we get all the benefits.

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Postby Dylar » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:32 pm

Keshiland wrote:
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So you would bar the grandparents, for political reasons, from spending time with your kids??? Keshiland, you are heading for a complete train wreck of a marriage and family life, I actually fear for the future of the children that are brought up in that environment.


Its dire. Generation Z (2000-2019) are going to be the most conservative since the great generation (1920-1939) so we need to make sure generation Alfa (2020-2039) is liberal. I don't want them thinking guns are cool.

I...I hope you do know that Gen Z are still a bunch of kids right? Their ideologies will change over time...well except mine, I'm still being conservative, and I'm still buying guns for home defense and hunting...Nevertheless, I'm not sure how you know that Gen Z is gonna be the most conservative, especially since all of them haven't even graduated high-school yet...
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Postby Segral » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:32 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:What have you been smoking?


Well, there are lots of legal benefits to being married.


Yes, but that doesn't mean you enter a pointless marriage that's doomed to fail...
yea bro idk

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Postby Keshiland » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:34 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Keshiland wrote:I don't want my kids hearing any right-wing opinions on issues, so I will do what any parent would do watch them whenever they are with someone who is to the right of me. My parents are on the left so I would not worry about my kids being with them, but if they have any right wing view other then pro life, I need to protect my kids. If I have the money I will send them to a liberal private or charter school, who will assure they don't end up being conservative which is the trend for the younger generations :/

Keshiland, I can tell you right now, unequivocally, that you are not liberal. A liberal would not have the kind of authoritarian and misogynistic views that you hold. That being said, I cannot say precisely what your belief system would be classified as, it is just a random collection of extremely disturbing and contradictory views.


I am a liberal, I am just one who has no room in my life for the conservative right because they have ruined the federal judiciary for voting for Trump and I will likely not see progress till I'm in my 60s thanks to them. It's not misogynistic, who says marriage has to be about love? Why can't 2 people just get married to have kids and both be happy with that? I will teach my kids that people of all races, sexes, genders, orientations, nationalities, and religions are all equal and good people. I will let them dp what ever they wish that does not harm them or someone else or break the law. Will I protect them from right-wing propaganda of course, will I keep them out of right wing schools of course, will I stop them from watching faux, or Breitbart, yes. But I will not stop them from looking at conventional right wing outlets.

I am anti gun, pro envorment, pro immagration, pro refugees being let in, pro UHC, pro free college, pro universal healthcare, pro childcare, pro vaccinations, pro 3 meals a day in schools the only non "liberal view" is that I am pro life.
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:34 pm

Dylar wrote:
Keshiland wrote:I said if they did but it's not worry as much as not wanting old time conservatives trying to sway liberal parenting styles

What makes you think they might be conservatives? Hope you know that there were liberals and hippies in their day too and they could be one of them...
Unless you plan on taking an innocent girl raised in a traditional nuclear family to exploit and manipulate her and her family for your own personal gains...then in which case, that's pretty disgusting...


Aight, fuckit, this is a Keshiland thread now and I got 20 minutes to kill.

I think what's even more horrific (and ridiculous) than the whole "exclude other viewpoints and excise non-liberal parents from my hypoethetical child's life" thing* is that he has this whole entire plan just in case his insignificant other's** parents are conservative. This whole complex edifice that he's spent the entire thread defending and explaining and advocating for*** is for that one outside possibility. What else does he have crazy plans for?****

*as if said plan wouldn't exclude its own success by its very existence
**stealing this from Petrolheadia and not even sorry, you beautiful shining diamond
***allegedly
****assuming he's not just posting this BS online to rile us up, cause c'mon, Poe's Law

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:35 pm

Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:Also, I would just like to say that even though I am totally straight, me and my best friend have a arrangement that after college we will get married for the tax breaks. And when one of us finds a woman we wish to marry we will simply divorce.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?


Are you sure that you are totally straight, and the tax breaks are not just an excuse to be in a relationship with another man? The mind works in mysterious ways, it can nudge us towards doing something we desire, but cannot deal with emotionally, by creating stratagems to achieve satisfaction of the desire in an indirect way.
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:36 pm

Keshiland wrote:-snip-.


tfw an alleged liberal has familial domination fantasies that would make Charles Manson go daaaaaaaaamn

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