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Do you want to get married why or why not?

Yes because I want to live the rest of my life with my BF or GF cause I love them so much
148
25%
No, because I don't want to be stuck with someone for life
19
3%
Yes because of those sweet sweet tax cuts.
19
3%
No, because I would rather like life to the fullest and not settle down
53
9%
Yes because I want to have a stable home for my future kids
99
17%
No, because I want kids but not a wife/husband
9
2%
Yes, for religious reasons
53
9%
No, not now but later on in life maybe.
200
33%
 
Total votes : 600

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:26 pm

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That said nothing of the sort. He said it was easier for women to find consenting partners
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:53 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
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Then why not teach students to have safe sex? There are ways to reduce the chance of an STI and unwanted pregnancy. There's more to sex ed than fear and horror. Afterall we don't just teach kids the dangers of driving in driver's ed, but we also teach safe driving habits.

I have never found abstinence a useful tool in sex ed as it totally ignores the issue of people being people and having sex. It's equivalent to "The best way to avoid accidents is to not drive" or "the best way to avoid drowning is not learning to swim."

Because states that have safe sex education have high levels of STD infection as well.

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I actually love the above graph, even if Texas somehow doubled. But here's a better one covering Chlamydia (The most common STD/STI) per state:
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:55 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Muscovites just told us that we can't get a divorce unless someone commits adultery.

That's for Christians, pretty sad. But follow your faith, if you can't divorce for that don't.

New haven america wrote:What if you have trouble getting one or simply can't?

Too bad, that sucks, but too bad tbh. Sex isn't vital, you can live without sex quiet easily. Talk to your spouse about it, but you can't force them you fuck you.

Why do you wish to dehumanize your fellow humans?
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Postby Donut section » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:57 pm

New haven america wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's for Christians, pretty sad. But follow your faith, if you can't divorce for that don't.


Too bad, that sucks, but too bad tbh. Sex isn't vital, you can live without sex quiet easily. Talk to your spouse about it, but you can't force them you fuck you.

Why do you wish to dehumanize your fellow humans?


Wait are you saying not having or wanting sex is dehumanising?

Cause oh boy do I have a bone to pick with you.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:01 pm

Donut section wrote:
New haven america wrote:Why do you wish to dehumanize your fellow humans?


Wait are you saying not having or wanting sex is dehumanising?

Cause oh boy do I have a bone to pick with you.

I see you're not following the argument.

They say that anyone who cheats is a filthy dog, and that under no circumstance should they cheat, even if they're trapped in a sexless, loveless relationship where the partner doesn't give two shits about the other person's needs, and that they should just accept and deal with the lack of human compassion. Caught up now?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:04 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Because states that have safe sex education have high levels of STD infection as well.

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I actually love the above graph, even if Texas somehow doubled.

That seems to prove my point.
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Postby Donut section » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:04 pm

New haven america wrote:
Donut section wrote:
Wait are you saying not having or wanting sex is dehumanising?

Cause oh boy do I have a bone to pick with you.

I see you're not following the argument.

They say that anyone who cheats is a filthy dog, and that under no circumstance should they cheat, even if they're trapped in a sexless, loveless relationship where the partner doesn't give two shits about the other person's needs, and that they should just accept and deal with the lack of human compassion. Caught up now?


Oh my bad.

Divorce isn't possible? Like you gotta be stupid to get into a relationship in the first place but relationships aren't eternal. Even with the ring.

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Postby NeoOasis » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:07 pm

New haven america wrote:[quote="United Muscovite Nations";p="32736092Because states that have safe sex education have high levels of STD infection as well.

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I actually love the above graph, even if Texas somehow doubled.[/quote][/quote]

Fun graphic to say in the least. But let's not forget that safe sex education can also affect pregnancy rates as someone here mentioned previously.

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:08 pm

Donut section wrote:[...]Divorce isn't possible?[...]


It depends, some of us can't divorce on religious grounds.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:08 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
New haven america wrote:
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I actually love the above graph, even if Texas somehow doubled.

That seems to prove my point.

Not really, most states on that graph are abstinence only states.

Here's a more accurate one covering Chlamydia (The most common STD/STI):
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Oh, would you look at that, it's most common in areas that practice abstinence only, would could've guessed?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:09 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:That seems to prove my point.

Not really, most states on that graph are abstinence only states.

Here's a more accurate one covering Chlamydia (The most common STD/STI):
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Oh, would you look at that, it's most common in areas that practice abstinence only, would could've guessed?

It also showed several states that don't have abstinence only and some that don't even mention abstinence, as being the top ten.
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Postby Donut section » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:10 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Donut section wrote:[...]Divorce isn't possible?[...]


It depends, some of us can't divorce on religious grounds.



That seems more like a won't than a can't. But anyway, that just makes it worse that you'd get married in the first place.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:10 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That still isn't an excuse for cheating. There are no acceptable excuse for adultery, get a divorce if it's such an issue.

What if one partner can not have sex?

I mean, I would hope their partner would be aware of that. If they can't accept that and still be faithful to their partner, they shouldn't get involved to begin with.

New haven america wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That still isn't an excuse for cheating. There are no acceptable excuse for adultery, get a divorce if it's such an issue.

What if you have trouble getting one or simply can't?

Why wouldn't you be able to?
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Postby Minzerland II » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:13 pm

New haven america wrote:
Donut section wrote:
Wait are you saying not having or wanting sex is dehumanising?

Cause oh boy do I have a bone to pick with you.

I see you're not following the argument.

They say that anyone who cheats is a filthy dog, and that under no circumstance should they cheat, even if they're trapped in a sexless, loveless relationship where the partner doesn't give two shits about the other person's needs, and that they should just accept and deal with the lack of human compassion. Caught up now?

What's stopping them from divorcing or annulling their marriage? Also, yes, they are 'a filthy dog' for cheating, unless they had been cheated on in the first place, regardless of the nature of the marriage.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:13 pm

Donut section wrote:That seems more like a won't than a can't.[...]


That's a better alternative to the word, 'can't'.

Donut section wrote:[...]But anyway, that just makes it worse that you'd get married in the first place.


If you think marriage is something to be avoided, then yeah, it would be.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:13 pm

Donut section wrote:
New haven america wrote:I see you're not following the argument.

They say that anyone who cheats is a filthy dog, and that under no circumstance should they cheat, even if they're trapped in a sexless, loveless relationship where the partner doesn't give two shits about the other person's needs, and that they should just accept and deal with the lack of human compassion. Caught up now?


Divorce isn't possible?

Um, there are tons of reasons why that would be the case.

There are some countries that don't allow divorce, some people can't divorced on religious grounds, or maybe there are financial or social reasons why someone couldn't get divorced, the list goes on and on. Anyway, there are tons of viable reasons why people could be trapped in a marriage even if they wanted to get out.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:15 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:What if one partner can not have sex?

I mean, I would hope their partner would be aware of that. If they can't accept that and still be faithful to their partner, they shouldn't get involved to begin with.

New haven america wrote:What if you have trouble getting one or simply can't?

Why wouldn't you be able to?

Legal reasons, religious reasons, financial and social reasons, etc...
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Postby NeoOasis » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:15 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
New haven america wrote:Not really, most states on that graph are abstinence only states.

Here's a more accurate one covering Chlamydia (The most common STD/STI):
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Oh, would you look at that, it's most common in areas that practice abstinence only, would could've guessed?

It also showed several states that don't have abstinence only and some that don't even mention abstinence, as being the top ten.


If you're talking about California, Texas, New York, and Illinois, you can probably explain those high numbers away with high population counts... the Southeast, doesn't quite have as large a population, yet their rates are as high or surpass those other states we can see. Imagine how much higher it would be if New York took an Alabama approach to sex ed.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:15 pm

Minzerland II wrote:What's stopping them from divorcing or annulling their marriage? Also, yes, they are 'a filthy dog' for cheating, unless they had been cheated on in the first place, regardless of the nature of the marriage.


It is especially damning if they vowed to be faithful. I personally wouldn't call them 'filthy dogs', depending on the circumstances — that, however, doesn't make it right.

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Postby Donut section » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
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Divorce isn't possible?

Um, there are tons of reasons why that would be the case.

There are some countries that don't allow divorce, some people can't divorced on religious grounds, or maybe there are financial or social reasons why someone couldn't get divorced, the list goes on and on. Anyway, there are tons of viable reasons why people could be trapped in a marriage even if they wanted to get out.


Was they aware of this before they got married? Cause this is leading into more than a whoopsie I dun goofed situation.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
Donut section wrote:
Divorce isn't possible?

Um, there are tons of reasons why that would be the case.

There are some countries that don't allow divorce, some people can't divorced on religious grounds, or maybe there are financial or social reasons why someone couldn't get divorced, the list goes on and on. Anyway, there are tons of viable reasons why people could be trapped in a marriage even if they wanted to get out.

1. The only country in the world that outlaws divorce is the Philippines.
2. Then you might want to reconsider your religion if it forces you to stay in an unhappy marriage.
3. Like what financial or social reasons?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:17 pm

NeoOasis wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It also showed several states that don't have abstinence only and some that don't even mention abstinence, as being the top ten.


If you're talking about California, Texas, New York, and Illinois, you can probably explain those high numbers away with high population counts... the Southeast, doesn't quite have as large a population, yet their rates are as high or surpass those other states we can see. Imagine how much higher it would be if New York took an Alabama approach to sex ed.

What about Alaska and New Mexico?
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:20 pm

Donut section wrote:
New haven america wrote:Um, there are tons of reasons why that would be the case.

There are some countries that don't allow divorce, some people can't divorced on religious grounds, or maybe there are financial or social reasons why someone couldn't get divorced, the list goes on and on. Anyway, there are tons of viable reasons why people could be trapped in a marriage even if they wanted to get out.


Was they aware of this before they got married? Cause this is leading into more than a whoopsie I dun goofed situation.

You do understand that humans change emotionally, right? I bet that there are foods, shows/movies, hobbies, etc... that you loved 10 years ago that you probably don't like or hate today.

Guess what? That can happen with people too. One partner can be perfectly loving and caring before or at the start of the marriage, and change to become a more closed off or unsympathetic person who isn't willing to participate in the relationship.
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Postby Mazujotai » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:22 pm

Why even get married unless it's a religious thing for you? Seems easy to be common law married (if your jurisdiction allows it) or just be partners. I mean if you really want to get married go ahead but not being married seems a lot easier in terms of finances and in regards to the deterioration of the relationship.

Then again my moms been married 4 times so I'm under no illusion that I'm not being absolutely biased in this regard.
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