What is your thought on marriage?

[New haven america]

That's not true. Relationships ate never black and white. What if one spouse withheld sex for a year?

That still isn't an excuse for cheating. There are no acceptable excuse for adultery, get a divorce if it's such an issue.

What if you have trouble getting one or simply can't?

[United Muscovite Nations]

The Anglican Communion isn't to be taken seriously as a traditional Christian group.

I hear they're not true Scotsmen either.

It's a fact. Even members of their own church acknowledge that a great deal of change has taken place in the group recently. It's not like with the other traditional Christian groups where there is generally agreement (i.e. among the Orthodox, Miaphysite, and Roman Catholic groups). No True Scotsmen is only a fallacy if the reasoning behind it is arbitrary, rather than based on a definition.

[Katganistan]

That's not what the Anglicans say.

The Anglican Communion isn't to be taken seriously as a traditional Christian group.

Pfft, ok fine.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Islam is similar to Catholicism on divorce, actually. For us either partner can petition for divorce, of course a reconciliation is attempted by arbitration, but if it can't be settled divorce is allowed.

In Catholicism you can petition for an annulment, or, if you aren't given that, you can be separated should the relationship be abusive. Otherwise, divorce isn't permitted by the Church.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Christianity only believes that adultery is a valid reason.

*cough*1 Corinthians*cough*

Where does that mention divorce?

[Katganistan]

Christianity only believes that adultery is a valid reason.

*cough*1 Corinthians*cough*

Ninja'd you!

[New haven america]

*cough*1 Corinthians*cough*

Where does that mention divorce?

Christianity only believes that adultery is a valid reason.

1 Corinthians 7:3-5

3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

Seems pretty clear that both have a responsibility to fulfill the other's needs.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Christianity only believes that adultery is a valid reason.

1 Corinthians 7:3-5

3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

Seems pretty clear that both have a responsibility to fulfill the other's needs.

That does not give a reason for divorce.

[New haven america]

*cough*1 Corinthians*cough*

Ninja'd you!

And I quoted you.

[Aillyria]

That still isn't an excuse for cheating. There are no acceptable excuse for adultery, get a divorce if it's such an issue.

Muscovites just told us that we can't get a divorce unless someone commits adultery.

That's for Christians, pretty sad. But follow your faith, if you can't divorce for that don't.

That still isn't an excuse for cheating. There are no acceptable excuse for adultery, get a divorce if it's such an issue.

What if you have trouble getting one or simply can't?

Too bad, that sucks, but too bad tbh. Sex isn't vital, you can live without sex quiet easily. Talk to your spouse about it, but you can't force them you fuck you.

[Costa Fierro]

There's also the double standard that a man can have as many partners as he wants and that makes him a player or a stud, but if a woman does, she's a slut.

Two things. One, it's easy for a woman to be a slut because also she has to do is exist. For a man to be a player, he has to be physically attractive, confident, smart, witty, funny, well dressed, smell good, fashionable and a lot more besides.

Two, men are hardwired to seek out as many female partners. We do this in order to spread as much of our seed to as many women as possible. To the extent that sexual monogamy kills the male libido.

[Ethel mermania]

That's not true. Relationships ate never black and white. What if one spouse withheld sex for a year?

That still isn't an excuse for cheating. There are no acceptable excuse for adultery, get a divorce if it's such an issue.

What if one partner can not have sex?

[United Muscovite Nations]

There's also the double standard that a man can have as many partners as he wants and that makes him a player or a stud, but if a woman does, she's a slut.

Two things. One, it's easy for a woman to be a slut because also she has to do is exist. For a man to be a player, he has to be physically attractive, confident, smart, witty, funny, well dressed, smell good, fashionable and a lot more besides.

Two, men are hardwired to seek out as many female partners. We do this in order to spread as much of our seed to as many women as possible. To the extent that sexual monogamy kills the male libido.

If that's true, then why do married couples tend to have sex more often than non-married couples?

[NeoOasis]

Plenty of states teach students about the dangers of STI's. People don't listen, and still have sex.

Then why not teach students to have safe sex? There are ways to reduce the chance of an STI and unwanted pregnancy. There's more to sex ed than fear and horror. Afterall we don't just teach kids the dangers of driving in driver's ed, but we also teach safe driving habits.

I have never found abstinence a useful tool in sex ed as it totally ignores the issue of people being people and having sex. It's equivalent to "The best way to avoid accidents is to not drive" or "the best way to avoid drowning is not learning to swim."

[United Muscovite Nations]

Plenty of states teach students about the dangers of STI's. People don't listen, and still have sex.

Then why not teach students to have safe sex? There are ways to reduce the chance of an STI and unwanted pregnancy. There's more to sex ed than fear and horror. Afterall we don't just teach kids the dangers of driving in driver's ed, but we also teach safe driving habits.

I have never found abstinence a useful tool in sex ed as it totally ignores the issue of people being people and having sex. It's equivalent to "The best way to avoid accidents is to not drive" or "the best way to avoid drowning is not learning to swim."

Because states that have safe sex education have high levels of STD infection as well.

[Des-Bal]

If that's true, then why do married couples tend to have sex more often than non-married couples?

How is that relevant?

[Ethel mermania]

Two things. One, it's easy for a woman to be a slut because also she has to do is exist. For a man to be a player, he has to be physically attractive, confident, smart, witty, funny, well dressed, smell good, fashionable and a lot more besides.

Two, men are hardwired to seek out as many female partners. We do this in order to spread as much of our seed to as many women as possible. To the extent that sexual monogamy kills the male libido.

If that's true, then why do married couples tend to have sex more often than non-married couples?

You got a better idea for a Tuesday night? TV sucks.

[United Muscovite Nations]

If that's true, then why do married couples tend to have sex more often than non-married couples?

How is that relevant?

He said that monogamy kills libido. If that were true, how would it be true that married couples have sex more?

[Ethel mermania]

Then why not teach students to have safe sex? There are ways to reduce the chance of an STI and unwanted pregnancy. There's more to sex ed than fear and horror. Afterall we don't just teach kids the dangers of driving in driver's ed, but we also teach safe driving habits.

I have never found abstinence a useful tool in sex ed as it totally ignores the issue of people being people and having sex. It's equivalent to "The best way to avoid accidents is to not drive" or "the best way to avoid drowning is not learning to swim."

Because states that have safe sex education have high levels of STD infection as well.

Science seems to say that sex ed has a positive effect on teen pregnancy and no effect on std's. One out of 2 ain't bad

http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseact ... ureID=1041

Edit: the biggest factor in STD's in teens seems to be do they live in a broken home or not.

[Katganistan]

Then why not teach students to have safe sex? There are ways to reduce the chance of an STI and unwanted pregnancy. There's more to sex ed than fear and horror. Afterall we don't just teach kids the dangers of driving in driver's ed, but we also teach safe driving habits.

I have never found abstinence a useful tool in sex ed as it totally ignores the issue of people being people and having sex. It's equivalent to "The best way to avoid accidents is to not drive" or "the best way to avoid drowning is not learning to swim."

Because states that have safe sex education have high levels of STD infection as well.

And states with abstinence only ed have high levels of unwanted pregnancy. So?

[Ethel mermania]

How is that relevant?

He said that monogamy kills libido. If that were true, how would it be true that married couples have sex more?

Oppertunity.

[Reploid Productions]

Two things. One, it's easy for a woman to be a slut because also she has to do is exist. For a man to be a player, he has to be physically attractive, confident, smart, witty, funny, well dressed, smell good, fashionable and a lot more besides.

Given your history, *** Costa Fierro, 1-day ban for trolling. *** A bass-ackwards way of saying "all women are sluts" is still textbook 'all x are y' flavor trolling. I recommend you review the site rules again.


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[United Muscovite Nations]

Because states that have safe sex education have high levels of STD infection as well.

And states with abstinence only ed have high levels of unwanted pregnancy. So?

I never said that works. Of course it wouldn't work without any cultural backing. No policy works when the culture is contrary to the idea.

[Donut section]

Two things. One, it's easy for a woman to be a slut because also she has to do is exist. For a man to be a player, he has to be physically attractive, confident, smart, witty, funny, well dressed, smell good, fashionable and a lot more besides.

Given your history, *** Costa Fierro, 1-day ban for trolling. *** A bass-ackwards way of saying "all women are sluts" is still textbook 'all x are y' flavor trolling. I recommend you review the site rules again.


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

Oh look bullshit. Just saying something is easy don't mean everyone does it. But hey you protect women from criticism however you want.

[Des-Bal]

He said that monogamy kills libido. If that were true, how would it be true that married couples have sex more?

Well first of all I don't think that's true I think most modern research holds that married couples have less sex than unmarried, cohabitating couples. That's ignoring the fact that an unmarried person in a relationship is most likely still monogamous.