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Do you want to get married why or why not?

Yes because I want to live the rest of my life with my BF or GF cause I love them so much
148
25%
No, because I don't want to be stuck with someone for life
19
3%
Yes because of those sweet sweet tax cuts.
19
3%
No, because I would rather like life to the fullest and not settle down
53
9%
Yes because I want to have a stable home for my future kids
99
17%
No, because I want kids but not a wife/husband
9
2%
Yes, for religious reasons
53
9%
No, not now but later on in life maybe.
200
33%
 
Total votes : 600

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Postby Katganistan » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:43 pm

NeuPolska wrote:In the meantime, what is everyone's opinion on open relationships and for that matter, the idea of sharing a spouse? Maybe I've just found the wrong side of the internet but it seems to me like there's quite a lot of swinging couples or different fetishes related to that.


I, for one, am not one to share my significant other with anyone, and would hope to be in a relationship with someone who feels the same way.

However, I see nothing wrong with open relationships so long as everyone knows going in what they are signing up for, and everyone is in agreement about it.

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Postby Katganistan » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:46 pm

Aillyria wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:In the meantime, what is everyone's opinion on open relationships and for the matter, the idea of sharing a spouse? Maybe I've just found the wrong side of the internet but it seems to me like there's quite a lot of swinging couples or different fetishes related to that.

Hell no, that's some satanic BS. That and pedophilia are next for the "liberals" to try to shove down our throats.


Excuse you? Pedophilia is abhorrent. Children cannot consent. What gave you the idea liberals have any less disgust about child sexual abuse than anyone else?

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Postby Sovaal » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:49 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Hell no, that's some satanic BS. That and pedophilia are next for the "liberals" to try to shove down our throats.


Excuse you? Pedophilia is abhorrent. Children cannot consent. What gave you the idea liberals have any less disgust about child sexual abuse than anyone else?

Don't you know? Open relationships are literally on par with raping children./s

And some how it's satanic.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:53 pm

Aillyria wrote:That and pedophilia are next for the "liberals" to try to shove down our throats.

*** Aillyria, WARNED for trolling. *** A line like this, trying to argue that whatever you mean by "liberals" supports pedophilia serves no other purpose but to rile up your ideological opponents. It adds nothing of actual merit or substance to the debate, it just gets people angry. We call such behavior trolling, and it is in violation of the site rules. Knock it off, you can argue against open or poly relationships without trying to insinuate that everyone to the left of your political position supports the sexual abuse of children.

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Postby Shikihara » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:06 pm

Aillyria wrote:It's becoming more popular because humanity is becoming more depraved and corrupt spiritually.


Ménage à trois has historically been much more widespread than most people are aware today.
Aillyria wrote:That and pedophilia are next for the "liberals" to try to shove down our throats.


No, that's rape.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:08 pm

NeuPolska wrote:
Duvniask wrote:There may come a point where you can hardly tell the difference.

Machines don't have their own desires or sense of true consciousness because they can never be living and thus never desire to preserve themselves, or do anything besides following their programming, however complex it may be.

So actual humans still > machines

One of the greatest robots in all of fiction would disagree.

Personally I'd go Human>Machine, but that's because I'm starved of human affection.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:08 pm

Shikihara wrote:
Aillyria wrote:It's becoming more popular because humanity is becoming more depraved and corrupt spiritually.


Ménage à trois has historically been much more widespread than most people are aware today.
Aillyria wrote:That and pedophilia are next for the "liberals" to try to shove down our throats.


No, that's rape.

And rape is a crime worthy of the penal leagues.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:11 pm

I'd want to get married as I fear dying alone.
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Postby NeuPolska » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:22 pm

New haven america wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:Machines don't have their own desires or sense of true consciousness because they can never be living and thus never desire to preserve themselves, or do anything besides following their programming, however complex it may be.

So actual humans still > machines

One of the greatest robots in all of fiction would disagree.

Personally I'd go Human>Machine, but that's because I'm starved of human affection.

Key word here is "fiction" :p

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:29 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:I'd want to get married as I fear dying alone.

Same, but I'm already extremely lonely.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:44 pm

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FelrikTheDeleted wrote:I have no particular problem with the movement (I'd consider the advocation for the rights of anyone as a noble cause), nor it's typical members. I do find those that I'd call 'manchildren' — usually the most vocal of the movement, similar to the vocal minority(?) among feminists — particularly annoying.


Because?


For the same reason that I find the typical feminazi annoying, they scream and scream without any semblance of civility (not to mention the ones I find particularly annoying usually have some kind of Victim complex).
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:48 pm

NeuPolska wrote:
New haven america wrote:One of the greatest robots in all of fiction would disagree.

Personally I'd go Human>Machine, but that's because I'm starved of human affection.

Key word here is "fiction" :p

Ah, but here's the thing, if an idea is created, then that means that it could be put into reality, especially the more iconic or loved said idea is. So you can't rule out the possibility of a self aware robot that has a desire to preserve itself and attempt to become its own lifeform.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:Key word here is "fiction" :p

Ah, but here's the thing, if an idea is created, then that means that it could be put into reality, especially the more iconic or loved said idea is. So you can't rule out the possibility of a self aware robot that has a desire to preserve itself and attempt to become its own lifeform.

Uh, not it doesn't. The impossible doesn't become possible because people have come up with the idea. We have no way to simulate human-like intelligence, and there's not really indication that we can. I won't say it's physically impossible like FTL, but to say we can put it into reality because we have the idea is a big stretch.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:08 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
New haven america wrote:Ah, but here's the thing, if an idea is created, then that means that it could be put into reality, especially the more iconic or loved said idea is. So you can't rule out the possibility of a self aware robot that has a desire to preserve itself and attempt to become its own lifeform.

Uh, not it doesn't. The impossible doesn't become possible because people have come up with the idea. 1.We have no way to simulate human-like intelligence, and there's not really indication that we can. I won't say it's physically impossible like FTL, 2.but to say we can put it into reality because we have the idea is a big stretch.

1. Not yet anyway
2. Not yet anyway

Are you seeing a pattern? People used to think it would be impossible the create machines that could fly or that planets outside our solar system could exist, but they were proven wrong on both those counts, because people had the idea that those beliefs weren't true and decided to prove it. Also, you missed the "Could" part, that doesn't mean it will happen, that means it has the potential to happen.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:12 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Uh, not it doesn't. The impossible doesn't become possible because people have come up with the idea. 1.We have no way to simulate human-like intelligence, and there's not really indication that we can. I won't say it's physically impossible like FTL, 2.but to say we can put it into reality because we have the idea is a big stretch.

1. Not yet anyway
2. Not yet anyway

Are you seeing a pattern? People used to think it would be impossible the create machines that could fly or that planets outside our solar system could exist, but they were proven wrong on both those counts, because people had the idea that those beliefs weren't true and decided to prove it. Also, you missed the "Could" part, that doesn't mean it will happen, that means it has the potential to happen.

With the idea of FTL, it is actually impossible. It violates the laws of physics.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:17 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. Not yet anyway
2. Not yet anyway

Are you seeing a pattern? People used to think it would be impossible the create machines that could fly or that planets outside our solar system could exist, but they were proven wrong on both those counts, because people had the idea that those beliefs weren't true and decided to prove it. Also, you missed the "Could" part, that doesn't mean it will happen, that means it has the potential to happen.

With the idea of FTL, it is actually impossible. It violates the laws of physics.

With our current understanding it is.

But maybe in 200-300+ years from now, future humans will be laughing at us for believing such a silly thing.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:18 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:With the idea of FTL, it is actually impossible. It violates the laws of physics.

With our current understanding it is.

But maybe in 200-300+ years from now, future humans will be laughing at us for believing such a silly thing.

Seems pretty unlikely, and it would probably require a radical shift in the way the universe works.
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Postby Kennlind » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:20 pm

Holy Matrimony is sacred and incredibly important. Today however, liberals and atheists are desecrating the act, making it a "secular" institution in which two men and two women can marry. I will uphold the sacrament with my future wife, whether it's my current girlfriend or someone else!
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:21 pm

Kennlind wrote:Holy Matrimony is sacred and incredibly important. Today however, liberals and atheists are desecrating the act, making it a "secular" institution in which two men and two women can marry. I will uphold the sacrament with my future wife, whether it's my current girlfriend or someone else!

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:30 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
New haven america wrote:With our current understanding it is.

But maybe in 200-300+ years from now, future humans will be laughing at us for believing such a silly thing.

Seems pretty unlikely, and it would probably require a radical shift in the way the universe works.

And people used to believe that the Sun revolved the Earth and that planets couldn't exist outside of our solar system.

Humans saying something is absolutely impossible has had a pretty shaky track record, tbh.
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Postby Western-Ukraine » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:35 pm

I do not support marriage on a Christian basis, but I view it as an integral and good tradition. Marriage is one of the last semblances of coming together and commiting to someone else. But we seem to move further from that ideal day by day, putting too much faith in the individual on a social level. Instead, family, love and kinship ought to bring us together so we would not be alone against hardships.

What more, whomever will be my partner in the near future, I hope to consolidate my union with that person in the stable and traditional form of marriage once certain. I know of no better alternative in any case.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:40 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Seems pretty unlikely, and it would probably require a radical shift in the way the universe works.

And people used to believe that the Sun revolved the Earth and that planets couldn't exist outside of our solar system.

Humans saying something is absolutely impossible has had a pretty shaky track record, tbh.

Those were based on faulty observations, not on mathematics, which is the highest form of science, and backed up by massive amounts of experimentation.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:52 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
New haven america wrote:And people used to believe that the Sun revolved the Earth and that planets couldn't exist outside of our solar system.

Humans saying something is absolutely impossible has had a pretty shaky track record, tbh.

Those were based on faulty observations, not on mathematics, which is the highest form of science, and backed up by massive amounts of experimentation.

And yet they were still considered impossibilities.

Actually, the discovery of Draugr, Poltergeist, and Phobetor (The first exoplanets found) were kind of an accident. The scientists who were studying PSR B1257+12 (A pulsar) were mainly studying it, and it was believed that it was basically impossible (Oh, here's that word again) for pulsars to have planets. However, when the scientists noticed irregularities they ran the numbers and found that planets were orbiting it.
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Postby NeuPolska » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:10 pm

Mechs are an idea people have but go read through that recent mech thread and you'll quickly find things like the square cube law that, which is mathematical, make those fancy drawn-up ideas completely nonsensical. We can think up a lot of things but just because we can think it doesn't make it possible. Besides, sex with a machine would be pretty shallow and unfulfilling. It's just a more physical extension of porn no matter how realistic it may be, and porn is great if you're only concerned about sexual release. But there's a whole lot more to sex than just the raw mechanics of it.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:26 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Human sexuality is just stupid. It does not serve any self-interest. Instead it tends to benefit a currently non-existent being called a child.

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