What is your thought on marriage?

[Dylar]

Most of the posts in this thread are men complaining about the difficulties of being in relationships with women.

Aka straight people problems.

Have you met any women?

"I don't like women. They are coarse and rough and irritating and they get everywhere."

Anyway, I don't want to get married, mainly because I'm discerning the Religious Life(priest, deacon, monk, friar, etc.). Even if I'm not a part of the religious life, I'll still probably be single. I mean, I've never dated anyone at all, mainly because I've never been interested in dating...or marriage...
Hell, I'm not even sure which option would be best suited for my predicament.

[Keshiland]

I also said that I will only marry someone who I feel will be a good mother. Parents are supposed to put the kids 1st

The problem here is that you will not be a good husband, that is the real issue here. A good husband would not treat his wife like a baby producing and rearing machine, and then divorce her as soon as the kids have left.

I never clamed I would be a good husband only that I would be a good father.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

The problem here is that you will not be a good husband, that is the real issue here. A good husband would not treat his wife like a baby producing and rearing machine, and then divorce her as soon as the kids have left.

I never clamed I would be a good husband only that I would be a good father.

If you make your spouse miserable it impacts on the kids. A bad husband is an imperfect father at best, and probably a shitty one.

[Sovaal]

Eh, I don't want to get married for a while, but eventjually, yes.

And marriage is going to be like religion. It may go down in popularity, but it's never truly going to go away.

[Greed and Death]

Just remove the legal recognition to it and I would be happy.

Why? Stable families are largely beneficial to society as a whole. Giving benefits to stable couples is the right thing to do. It sames very meaningless to abolish it. What would you suggest instead? Hedonism?

Does that work for couples who choose to have no children ?
And if you are concerned about stable families couldn't the same stability be achieved by providing child tax credits ?
Why should a married couple with no children pay less in Tax than me ?

[Keshiland]

I never clamed I would be a good husband only that I would be a good father.

If you make your spouse miserable it impacts on the kids. A bad husband is an imperfect father at best, and probably a shitty one.

I won't go out of my way to make her miserable. I will simply have my priorities Kids, Work, Wife. I will take off work anytime I need to for my kids, unless its literally life or death situation I won't do that for my wife.

[Sovaal]

The problem here is that you will not be a good husband, that is the real issue here. A good husband would not treat his wife like a baby producing and rearing machine, and then divorce her as soon as the kids have left.

I never clamed I would be a good husband only that I would be a good father.

Bad husbands do not make good fathers.

Divorce/ breaking up of a parental relationship is a terrible thing for kids to go through, and I speak from experience.

[New haven america]

So your future wife would be nothing more than a baby-making machine for you, that you will ditch at the earliest opportunity? How degrading and demeaning for the poor woman. Note to all women: stay the hell away from Keshiland, if you want a future as a person, not as a machine to be discarded.

No not as a baby making machine. I will stay with her because I want all my kids to grow up in a 2 parent household, with a stable upbringing, and never being forced to choose between mom or dad or fear being split up or losing one of them. I would go crazy living alone with just my wife after all the kids move on. I need excitement and adventure staying at home with my wife would just be long sad day sulking over missing the kids.

Got it, you've never been in an actual relationship before.

[New haven america]

The problem here is that you will not be a good husband, that is the real issue here. A good husband would not treat his wife like a baby producing and rearing machine, and then divorce her as soon as the kids have left.

I never clamed I would be a good husband only that I would be a good father.

No, you wouldn't. Bad husbands tend to be bad fathers due to their habit of causing dysfunction and family drama, which can seriously damage a child's social and emotional development.

[Keshiland]

Why? Stable families are largely beneficial to society as a whole. Giving benefits to stable couples is the right thing to do. It sames very meaningless to abolish it. What would you suggest instead? Hedonism?

Does that work for couples who choose to have no children ?
And if you are concerned about stable families couldn't the same stability be achieved by providing child tax credits ?
Why should a married couple with no children pay less in Tax than me ?

In a way you do get a tax cut per child. The more children you have the more money you have to make to be moved up in a tax bracket. if you have 8 kids your at almsot 50K before being moved up into bracket 2.

[Keshiland]

I never clamed I would be a good husband only that I would be a good father.

Bad husbands do not make good fathers.

Divorce/ breaking up of a parental relationship is a terrible thing for kids to go through, and I speak from experience.

I know I went through that to even though it was clean and no backbiting or courts. That's why I will always refuse to divorce and just deal with it no matter how much I hate the marriage until the kids are grown up because I will never put them through that.

[New haven america]

Bad husbands do not make good fathers.

Divorce/ breaking up of a parental relationship is a terrible thing for kids to go through, and I speak from experience.

I know I went through that to even though it was clean and no backbiting or courts. That's why I will always refuse to divorce and just deal with it no matter how much I hate the marriage until the kids are grown up because I will never put them through that.

That can also affect children. I've read tons of stories of adults who's parents never divorced (Even though they really should have) leading them to have increadibly unhealthy views of relationships.

Though, this can also be vice versa, where getting divorced can harm a child's view of relationships (But comparatively, I've heard way more from the above example). Unrelated, I recommend you get some type of help, as your views on relationships are rather sad and immature...

[Genivaria]

Really 'marriage' is something I consider to be a kind of formal draping on what I really want, which is companionship.
Loneliness is not fun.

[Telconi]

Religious reasons were the primary motivation for my marriage. Secondary motivation was for our child (ren?)'s well being.

Having said that, I resent the legal ramification's of marriage.

[Donut section]

Really 'marriage' is something I consider to be a kind of formal draping on what I really want, which is companionship.
Loneliness is not fun.

Heresy.

[Telconi]

Bad husbands do not make good fathers.

Divorce/ breaking up of a parental relationship is a terrible thing for kids to go through, and I speak from experience.

I know I went through that to even though it was clean and no backbiting or courts. That's why I will always refuse to divorce and just deal with it no matter how much I hate the marriage until the kids are grown up because I will never put them through that.

My folk's divorce was a miracle. I was so much better off afterwards than I was before. While I understand that statistically marriage is bad for kids, it had to be taken on a case by case basis.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I would like to get married at some point in my life, would like to have a stable situation though first and be in a relationship with someone i figure or know i would be with for a good long time and i really loved. Same with kids, wait till i have a stable situation first, am with someone i would like to have kids with and would be up for it and i can afford to sustain a family, which will not be a for a good while.

[Albrenia]

I'm not opposed to getting married, just no plans for it right now, nor is it an actual life goal.

[Victores]

I would never want to get married or have a relationship. I plan on following the example of Uncle Ho.

[Sovaal]

Bad husbands do not make good fathers.

Divorce/ breaking up of a parental relationship is a terrible thing for kids to go through, and I speak from experience.

I know I went through that to even though it was clean and no backbiting or courts. That's why I will always refuse to divorce and just deal with it no matter how much I hate the marriage until the kids are grown up because I will never put them through that.

Well a bad marriage is just as bad tbh.

[Corrian]

I think marriage is beautiful. Not only do you vow to take care of your wife in front of God himself, you even make yourself responsible for her sins. If that isn't a sign of love, I don't know what is. Plus, marriage is the best thing that can happen to you, especially if you're Muslim. Imagine spending the rest of your life with your ideal woman happily ever after.

Marriage nowadays has nothing specifically to do with making your vows in front of God. I would get married (If I do) with no intention of sending any vows to God himself in the least,

[Internationalist Bastard]

Marriage is purely a ceremonial commitment to someone you already are with. That said, I have been married and plan to do it again, it's a wonderful thing, just not really necessary by any means

[Ferret Civilization]

Not much of a General Discussion kind of person, but I guess reading some of the crazy stuff Keshiland puts out here has been highly amusing and watching The New California Republic along with many others try and shoot down their reasoning has just added to it all. While I for the most part disagree with pretty much all of Keshiland's thinking, I understand it completely. So I will just throw out there, that there are other people that have the same views with him that want the biological child and not the stranger of the opposite sex that makes them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/fashion/seeking-to-reproduce-without-a-romantic-partnership.html?mcubz=0
http://modamily.com/#home

So as long as Keshiland is honest and upfront with the person that they want to have a child with it could work out. Hell Keshiland could probably use the marriage arrangement with a Canadian to get that citizenship they so want to help with fleeing the US. Probably have a better chance at that than trying to take a language comprehension and other Canadian citizenship tests. Though seriously Keshiland, take the time to learn and understand the Canadian laws better than you have the US ones.

[Genivaria]

I think marriage is beautiful. Not only do you vow to take care of your wife in front of God himself, you even make yourself responsible for her sins. If that isn't a sign of love, I don't know what is. Plus, marriage is the best thing that can happen to you, especially if you're Muslim. Imagine spending the rest of your life with your ideal woman happily ever after.

Marriage nowadays has nothing specifically to do with making your vows in front of God. I would get married (If I do) with no intention of sending any vows to God himself in the least,

My sister got married in front of a judge with about 6 witnesses.
She and my brother-in law seem very happy together and my niece is fucking adorable.

[New haven america]

I think marriage is beautiful. Not only do you vow to take care of your wife in front of God himself, you even make yourself responsible for her sins. If that isn't a sign of love, I don't know what is. Plus, marriage is the best thing that can happen to you, especially if you're Muslim. Imagine spending the rest of your life with your ideal woman happily ever after.

Reminder that marriage existed before Christianity, was mostly used for business, and in a lot of places, same sex marriage was perfectly legal.