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Do you want to get married why or why not?

Yes because I want to live the rest of my life with my BF or GF cause I love them so much
148
25%
No, because I don't want to be stuck with someone for life
19
3%
Yes because of those sweet sweet tax cuts.
19
3%
No, because I would rather like life to the fullest and not settle down
53
9%
Yes because I want to have a stable home for my future kids
99
17%
No, because I want kids but not a wife/husband
9
2%
Yes, for religious reasons
53
9%
No, not now but later on in life maybe.
200
33%
 
Total votes : 600

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Postby New haven america » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:08 pm

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Producers don't have to do much at all. They bascially run the show and give the tasks to everyone else to put the show on. I get the deal from the channels and the I figureout how the money is spend for the show.

Really. Then why isn't EVERYONE doing it, Keshiland, if it's an absentee job?

As someone who's into media, for anyone who's curious as to what a producer does, producers plan and coordinate: Script selection (If the show or movie is scripted), working with the director to coordinate the crew and writers, directing and editing, arranging finances and working out legal issues, finding screenwriters, appointing executive producers, line producers, and unit production managers, working to create the final cut of a project, selling work, and arranging distribution rights.

It is in no way an easy job, and requires a lot of work, discipline, and money.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:11 pm

New haven america wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Really. Then why isn't EVERYONE doing it, Keshiland, if it's an absentee job?

As someone who's into media, for anyone who's curious as to what a producer does, producers plan and coordinate: Script selection (If the show or movie is scripted), working with the director to coordinate the crew and writers, directing and editing, arranging finances and working out legal issues, finding screenwriters, appointing executive producers, line producers, and unit production managers, working to create the final cut of a project, selling work, and arranging distribution rights.

It is in no way an easy job, and takes a lot of work, discipline, and money.

Seems to me another word for a producer is a project manager in fields like engineering.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:12 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
New haven america wrote:As someone who's into media, for anyone who's curious as to what a producer does, producers plan and coordinate: Script selection (If the show or movie is scripted), working with the director to coordinate the crew and writers, directing and editing, arranging finances and working out legal issues, finding screenwriters, appointing executive producers, line producers, and unit production managers, working to create the final cut of a project, selling work, and arranging distribution rights.

It is in no way an easy job, and takes a lot of work, discipline, and money.

Seems to me another word for a producer is a project manager in fields like engineering.

Yeah, sounds about right.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:15 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
Producers don't have to do much at all. They bascially run the show and give the tasks to everyone else to put the show on. I get the deal from the channels and the I figureout how the money is spend for the show.

Really. Then why isn't EVERYONE doing it, Keshiland, if it's an absentee job?

Got a dad in the radio biz. He worked his way up from sports and news to ownership of his own multi-station corporation. There ain't no absentee low-work jobs in entertainment/communications. If anything, there's more demands the higher you go, in many ways. Sure, you can call the shots, have other people cover for you ... but then how do you know it got done right? Trust me. The good ones like to keep their finger on the pulse of things, make sure they know what's going on in their business or production, how money is being spent, how advertising etc is being done, how their employees are doing and how they're representing the business, etc etc etc.

Keshi doesn't grasp a lot of things. How Things WorkTM is right on up there near the top.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:17 pm

Katganistan wrote:
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Compensating her for what? Also can yall stop with the just adopt option lol. 1. There is something special about having a biological child and 2. It's DUCKING EXPENSIVE!

Biological kids are expensive too, and anyone squeezing out ten kids is going to have massive health problems.

After the first few there might not be any squeezing required.
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Postby New Cheeseland » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:20 pm

Why isn't there an "other" option. I want to avoid marriage out of shear paranoia.
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Postby NeuPolska » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:20 pm

New Cheeseland wrote:Why isn't there an "other" option. I want to avoid marriage out of shear paranoia.

Paranoia of what?

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Postby Katganistan » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:22 pm

New haven america wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Really. Then why isn't EVERYONE doing it, Keshiland, if it's an absentee job?

As someone who's into media, for anyone who's curious as to what a producer does, producers plan and coordinate: Script selection (If the show or movie is scripted), working with the director to coordinate the crew and writers, directing and editing, arranging finances and working out legal issues, finding screenwriters, appointing executive producers, line producers, and unit production managers, working to create the final cut of a project, selling work, and arranging distribution rights.

It is in no way an easy job, and requires a lot of work, discipline, and money.

Believe me, New Haven America, the rest of us know that.

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Postby Katganistan » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:25 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Biological kids are expensive too, and anyone squeezing out ten kids is going to have massive health problems.

After the first few there might not be any squeezing required.


That's where the massive expensive health problems, such as surgeries to correct prolapsed uterus, would come in. Of course, one of the corrections is hysterectomy so....

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Postby Greater Redosia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:27 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:After the first few there might not be any squeezing required.


That's where the massive expensive health problems, such as surgeries to correct prolapsed uterus, would come in. Of course, one of the corrections is hysterectomy so....


Kat, where have you gotten your huge knowledge of so many things. Teach me your ways.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:27 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Biological kids are expensive too, and anyone squeezing out ten kids is going to have massive health problems.

After the first few there might not be any squeezing required.

Don't get me started ... don't you get me started ... XD

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Postby New Cheeseland » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:29 pm

NeuPolska wrote:
New Cheeseland wrote:Why isn't there an "other" option. I want to avoid marriage out of shear paranoia.

Paranoia of what?


1. False rape accusations
2. Person may turn out to be transgender, since I'm not attracted to transgender people I could be labeled a "bigot" and have my reputation ruined
3. I could lose custody of my children
4. I'm not good enough
5. No-one else is good enough
(I know numbers 2 and 3 are contradictory, sometimes I'm filled with self-loathing and other times filled with heightened egocentrism)
6. People don't get my sense of humor and tell other people I'm an asshole
7. At the moment I'm a beanpole
8. The only people I could realistically get with are radical feminists, which I am in NO WAY DOING
9. Humans are on average very VERY stupid
10. Some of my actions go against social norms
and other reasons

As you can tell I am overly paranoid
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:30 pm

Greater Redosia wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
That's where the massive expensive health problems, such as surgeries to correct prolapsed uterus, would come in. Of course, one of the corrections is hysterectomy so....


Kat, where have you gotten your huge knowledge of so many things. Teach me your ways.



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Postby Greater Redosia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:31 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Greater Redosia wrote:
Kat, where have you gotten your huge knowledge of so many things. Teach me your ways.



Age and treachery always triumphs over youth and skill. :twisted:


Well alright then, I promise I wont disappoint you then. I shall become a successful lawyer and try my hardest, I promise you that Kat!!

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Postby NeuPolska » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:41 pm

New Cheeseland wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:Paranoia of what?


1. False rape accusations
2. Person may turn out to be transgender, since I'm not attracted to transgender people I could be labeled a "bigot" and have my reputation ruined
3. I could lose custody of my children
4. I'm not good enough
5. No-one else is good enough
(I know numbers 2 and 3 are contradictory, sometimes I'm filled with self-loathing and other times filled with heightened egocentrism)
6. People don't get my sense of humor and tell other people I'm an asshole
7. At the moment I'm a beanpole
8. The only people I could realistically get with are radical feminists, which I am in NO WAY DOING
9. Humans are on average very VERY stupid
10. Some of my actions go against social norms
and other reasons

As you can tell I am overly paranoid

Okay well I'm not going to be able to magically wave off of your paranoia with a post, but I can at least try to explain a few of these?

1) Okay, I suppose this one is valid. But it doesn't happen THAT frequently, you can still disprove those accusations and false rape accusations can lead to the other party receiving jail time. If you find someone that you love and they love you, it very likely won't happen. It's like worrying about getting hit by a stray bullet.
2) This is why you date people before you marry them, so you know these things and can break up before you get into anything serious
3) Valid, but that's assuming you go through a divorce
4) Self-esteem, you gotta work on that one yourself. Confront your issues and move on, nobody's perfect. But everyone has something desirable about them. If you don't like your body, try working out and exercising. If you don't think you're attractive, believe me I've seen people that you'd probably consider undateable get people that are out of their leagues. If your personality sucks, I mean, you gotta work on that. Be nice and polite, that's all you really need. If you're a sarcastic asshole, some people love that.
5) That's your own personal viewpoint so I can't say anything on that
6) Just meet another asshole, or someone who understands your humor
7) As in, skinny and tall (from a quick google search)? Don't see how that's an issue
8 ) Valid (I hate how typing eight with a parenthesis turns it into a smiley)
9) You might just need to stop dealing with whoever you're dealing with and find some other people
10) That's fine
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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:54 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Really. Then why isn't EVERYONE doing it, Keshiland, if it's an absentee job?

Got a dad in the radio biz. He worked his way up from sports and news to ownership of his own multi-station corporation. There ain't no absentee low-work jobs in entertainment/communications. If anything, there's more demands the higher you go, in many ways. Sure, you can call the shots, have other people cover for you ... but then how do you know it got done right? Trust me. The good ones like to keep their finger on the pulse of things, make sure they know what's going on in their business or production, how money is being spent, how advertising etc is being done, how their employees are doing and how they're representing the business, etc etc etc.

Keshi doesn't grasp a lot of things. How Things WorkTM is right on up there near the top.


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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:02 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:No, they're not


Bullshit.

I'm talking about people who just plain can't get married.


Most people can get married. Most of those that don't do not choose to do so.

Studies show that people who aren't married are consistently worse off in almost every metric.


What studies are these? The studies that show that men are not healthier in marriage than men who are single? The studies that show that being single makes you more successful and wealthier? The studies that show that single people are happier and lead more fulfilling lives?

Turns out your argument is based on bullshit. Always has been, always will be.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:05 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:No, they're not


Bullshit.

I'm talking about people who just plain can't get married.


Most people can get married. Most of those that don't do not choose to do so.

You have anything to back that up?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:10 pm

The New California Republic wrote:Supposedly, divorce numbers of opposite-sex couples in England and Wales are the highest they have been since 2009: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41669400

An interesting statistic is that: Of 112 divorces of same-sex couples in 2016, 78% involved female couples. It might just be a statistical blip, but if the trend continues over the next few years, then we will need to ask what is/isn't happening with the female couples in comparison to the male couples, to result in the higher divorce rate.


It's not a blip. It's well known that women initiate the divorce in a lot of countries.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:16 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:You have anything to back that up?


Yup.

"But Costa, that says most people who are single want to get married!"

Let's put it this way. 29% of people choose not to get married is basically 100% of those that chose not to get married are doing so because they don't want to.
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Postby Minzerland II » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:16 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:No, they're not


Bullshit.

I'm talking about people who just plain can't get married.


Most people can get married. Most of those that don't do not choose to do so.

Studies show that people who aren't married are consistently worse off in almost every metric.


What studies are these? The studies that show that men are not healthier in marriage than men who are single? The studies that show that being single makes you more successful and wealthier? The studies that show that single people are happier and lead more fulfilling lives?

Turns out your argument is based on bullshit. Always has been, always will be.

Who knew responsibilities would affect someone's life in such drastic ways. Hmmmmm.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:21 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:You have anything to back that up?


Yup.

"But Costa, that says most people who are single want to get married!"

Let's put it this way. 29% of people choose not to get married is basically 100% of those that chose not to get married are doing so because they don't want to.

How old are those 29%? They may want to get married as they age. A better barometer would be to take those who are not married later in life, and ask them why they are not married.
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Postby Lidigan » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:24 pm

now I don't know much about much but I do know....that if we get divorced for any reason she gets some of my shit and that doesn't sound too favorable in my opinion. :eyebrow:

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:27 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Yup.

"But Costa, that says most people who are single want to get married!"

Let's put it this way. 29% of people choose not to get married is basically 100% of those that chose not to get married are doing so because they don't want to.

How old are those 29%? They may want to get married as they age. A better barometer would be to take those who are not married later in life, and ask them why they are not married.

Here is something I dug up on the reasons people aren't married:

http://time.com/3422624/report-millennials-marriage/

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Postby NeuPolska » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:28 pm

Lidigan wrote:now I don't know much about much but I do know....that if we get divorced for any reason she gets some of my shit and that doesn't sound too favorable in my opinion. :eyebrow:

There are literally documents you can sign before getting married that will prevent this sort of situation, assuming it's actually your shit

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