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Postby A Rational Anarchist » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:30 am

Firosiro wrote:...When it comes to breakfast though only certain foods can be eaten it seems. For some reason western civilization has decided that only certain foods can be breakfast foods. When you go to restaurants their menus are always limited come breakfast time. Sometimes they serve breakfast all day but they'll still only serve breakfast during breakfast time. You can only eat certain things and drink certain things. If you dare to want something else than you're left with nothing. What's up with this?


There are at least two reasons:

1) Arbitrary cultural preferences. Enough of the available market wants bacon and eggs, so bacon and eggs it is. I'm not a huge fan myself (being one of those weenie vegetarians), but I'm also not the only person in the world with preferences (even though mine are obviously superior) so I go grocery shopping, cook at home, and do as I damn well please.

2) The foods associated with these arbitrary cultural preferences require certain preparation and cooking methods -- not the least of which is cooking at a particular temperature, for both a pleasing outcome and food safety. Cooktops and the like generally require a certain amount of time to increase of decrease temperatures properly, and these small amounts of time add up very quickly when you have many orders waiting. Having to constantly reset your kitchen between individual orders is unrealistic. There is nothing in particular having to do with breakfast here; if bacon and eggs was traditionally eaten at the end of the day, the problem of resetting the kitchen for different types of cuisine would remain.

Firosiro wrote:Sure you can eat whatever you want for breakfast in your own home, but this is hardly fair.


This is entirely fair, as a restaurant is not your home.

Firosiro wrote:There are a lot of comparisons to society's treatment of gay people for example.


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Postby Maichuko » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:32 am

Some toast, coffee, and hash browns are always welcome in the morning.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:34 am

It's a degenerate Anglo invention of recent times, our ancestors never ate it.
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Postby Ashlak » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:00 am

Breakfast food is the best. Especially french toast!
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Postby AsReil » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:38 am

They're meant to be fast and filling, not a five-course meal with sherbet spacers.

Personally, I don't bother eating breakfast because I don't get hungry 'til around noon.
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:45 pm

Love it - but I generally either forget it or am too busy for it.

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Postby The Batavia » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:48 pm

First we have "What food is a sandwich?", now we have "How do you feel about breakfast?"?

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Postby New haven america » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:51 pm

Don't really care for it. I just usually have some instant noodles (Indomie specifically) or leftovers if I get hungry in the morning. Either that or I just wait till lunch.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:51 pm

Delicious. Better still when my cat doesn't try and steal what I'm having.
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Postby Cascadian-California » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:55 pm

I love breakfast food but eating in the morning makes me feel lethargic so I naturally do intermittent fasting.
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Postby Tishanda » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:59 pm

Eating really any type of breakfast makes me sick for the rest of the day, so I just avoid it.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:10 pm

People who eat non breakfast for breakfast are weird. Dude at our company breakfast today ordered a dman garden salad with ranch dressing at 0630. Garbage like that is unacceptable.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:35 pm

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Postby East Angria » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:56 pm

1. You eat breakfast right after getting up. Your tastebuds are much more sensitive now than later in the day, so it makes sense to eat foods with mild flavors. Eggs, bread, and oats don't taste like much. Sausage is just salty, cereal is just sweet. There are cultural differences as to what is considered mild. I heared the people in Vietnam get up to eat hot spicy noodle soup.
2. You eat breakfast right before you have to go somewhere and start working. Breakfast foods have to require a minimal amount of work. You will not find a single breakfast food that takes 20 minutes or more to assemble. Neither do they require lots of utensils that have to be cleaned later on.
3. People get habits and pass them on to their kids. Even though we live in a world of 24/7 fast food joints and instant meals, our parents' and grandparents' tastes still influenced what we had for breakfast as kids, and most people just leave it at that.

I'm trying to offer explanations here, not justifications. I personally spend my first three waking hours of each day drinking tea, which stifles my appetite. I prefer hearty foods, even for breakfast. Give me leftover pizza or some ramen with egg and I'll be much happier than with cornflakes and PBJ sandwiches.
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:13 pm

Even McDonald's serves breakfast all day.

I've never been to a diner where you couldn't get an omelette or even eggs and bacon at any time of day if you asked. You might have to suffer with french fries instead of home fries or hashbrowns, but -- yeah. Breakfast food is hella fast and easy to prepare, so I have never had a problem ordering it.

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Postby Ratateague » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:03 pm

How does NSG feel about these limitations? How do you feel about the dawn's tyranny, a tyranny of mind, body, and nation? Are you complacent in the uniform eradication of our control over our own diets?
Complacent? Nay, enthusiastic! I hate to echo cliché, but breakfast is my most important meal of the day! It's the lynchpin that ties my routine together, and I've witnessed those without it fall into disarray. Before I even shower (yes, way), I get my news fix and incorporate it into my meal. Brainfood!

I usually eat healthy cereal, yogurt, and fruit. Boring, I know, but I'm no breakfast traditionalist. It's sheerly convenience, and I'm happy with it. Although I love when I have the chance to go the lox, whitefish, or cold pizza route. There's no reason why anyone should limit themselves conventionally, unless there are time restraints.

Sometimes they serve breakfast all day but they'll still only serve breakfast during breakfast time. You can only eat certain things and drink certain things. If you dare to want something else than you're left with nothing. What's up with this?

I dunno, but I especially appreciate the good sit-down restaurants that do this. I very rarely eat out for breakfast, but there's this french cafeteria-style chain, La Madeleine, where the atmosphere is quiet and intimate with pleasant rustic aesthetics. At least it is around here. It seems to vary from location to location. Anyway, on very special occasions I'll go there for brunch and oh man is the quiche and galette to die for. :blush: There used to be a smaller one here that was my favorite: it had a rustic dark wooden exterior with tudor-style and had a water wheel (non-functional). And birds, lots of happy birds.

but when they go outside they find a society that marginalizes them. They are viewed as amoral and deviant. Their very existence is offensive to society
I dunno, dude.. have you ever been to a Waffle House? ;) Lots of weird fryggin people that meet your descriptors with odd meal choices and strange eating habits.

Furthermore breakfast intrudes into other parts of your life. Many restaurants serve breakfast all day but they never let you order from the rest of the menu at breakfast time. Breakfast just has to exist all the time but lunch and dinner options can't exist in breakfast time? It's like a kid who demands to be in everyone's treehouse but won't let anyone into their own. Society tries to tell you it's "the most important meal of the day". Is that not similar to society telling us that only heterosexual relationships are "natural" or "pure"? Don't even think about throwing the pseudoscience at me. Even if it were true that eating after waking up is important, this doesn't justify breakfast. Breakfast is defined by the time of day. That's why eating breakfast foods after breakfast is brunch. Some people may wake up around lunch time. Some people work night shifts and don't want to have to eat breakfast foods for their dinner. Finally why does having to eat after waking up justify the limited selection of foods?
First, you're operating off of the assumption that breakfast is determined by eating out. You are letting dining establishments dictate rules to you, but not addressing it by preparing your own food? I hope most people aren't frequently eating out for a meal that is traditionally ridiculously easy to prepare. That is just a really bad habit to get into by (1) not leaving yourself enough time to get ready and (2) getting fast food which is neither fast nor healthy. And (possibly 3) I contend that getting up late isn't a meal problem: it's a sleep problem and an issue of routine. We are already pretty sleep deprived as a society, but I'll never understand the tendency for others to stay up late, robbing themselves of the morning. There is so much more to do in the presense of daylight, but we like to party in the midnight hour? There's a time convention that doesn't make sense! :p

Don't get me wrong, I get what you are really trying to say: that eating should be by necessity, not by social convention. And I agree - eat when you are hungry, and eat what you feel like. Hell, I'd even advocate eating chocolate in the morning, rather than as dessert, due to caffeine content. However, all this comes off as some spoiled demand about how the market doesn't cater to your exact dining fantasies. -> DIY <-
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:17 pm

I like meat or eggs. Too many carbs in the AM, muffins, waffles, pop tarts....ugh

We have places in upstate NY that proclaim "WE SERVE BREAKFAST ALL DAY!" and then in smaller print "closed at 2PM"
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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:20 pm

Pope Joan wrote:I like meat or eggs. Too many carbs in the AM, muffins, waffles, pop tarts....ugh

We have places in upstate NY that proclaim "WE SERVE BREAKFAST ALL DAY!" and then in smaller print "closed at 2PM"


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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:22 pm

Telconi wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:I like meat or eggs. Too many carbs in the AM, muffins, waffles, pop tarts....ugh

We have places in upstate NY that proclaim "WE SERVE BREAKFAST ALL DAY!" and then in smaller print "closed at 2PM"


Protein breakfasts are best breakfasts!


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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:19 pm

Well I eat whatever is available on breakfast. If it is pandesal(the most common kind of breakfast food here, basically bread that tastes a little sweet and is sold only in mornings), roast chicken, or whatever suits my liking, I take it. And no one gives a damn when I eat rice coupled with mincemeat and soup in a ricebox at 6:30 AM at school.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:57 pm

This thread is making me hungry. You should all post pictures of your favourite breakfast meal to increase my suffering.

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