Japan Votes 2017

[Kubra]

the communists didn't invade southeast asia.

Well, there was that whole mess in Vietnam....

can't exactly invade your own country can you

[Xiaodong]

The campaign officially began yesterday, and the LDP is still leading considerably in both the constituency seats and the PR seats according to the polls. The only poll with the CDP shows them at 7% and Kibo no To at 10%. Still, no worse than expected, I suppose.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to polls in Japan. Parties like Kibo no To and the CDP (which practice a quasi-urban populism similar to what Koizumi and the DPJ did in 2005 and 2009 respectively) typically do a lot better than polls suggest (the DPJ got 18% in PR blocks in the last election whilst polling at 8%) as they usually get undecided voters to vote for them as "the alternative". LDP (and Komeito, Initiatives and the JCP) have political "bases" (rural voters for LDP, Sokka Gakkai for Komeito, unions for the JCP and Osaka for Initiatives) that will always vote for them (LDP have since 1996 had an average of 16-18 million votes in the PR blocks aside from the Koizumi years where they appealed to outside their base) - parties like Kibo no To and the CDP need to generate a high turnout of undecided voters if they want a chance of winning substantially more seats.

Koike not running though will handicap Kibo no To and depress turnout though, unless the Komeito take up her offer of making their leader PM. In which case the LDP are fucked.

[Iyanden]

They defend their people while communists hate and oppress their people and spread their cancer world wide

the communists didn't invade southeast asia.

The communists did invade Tibet, Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, central Asia, the Caucasus countries, South Vietnam, Turkestan and so on and mass killed their own people in their own countries too

[Hammer Britannia]

Why isn't the Pirate Party on this list? It is the best party

[Kubra]

the communists didn't invade southeast asia.

The communists did invade Tibet, Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, central Asia, the Caucasus countries, South Vietnam, Turkestan and so on and mass killed their own people in their own countries too

lol sounds like as many places as Japan invaded

[MERIZoC]

Well, there was that whole mess in Vietnam....

can't exactly invade your own country can you

No, see, when America sends hundreds of thousands of troops to back up a rebel dictator that opposes you, you're the real invader.

[Iyanden]

The communists did invade Tibet, Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, central Asia, the Caucasus countries, South Vietnam, Turkestan and so on and mass killed their own people in their own countries too

lol sounds like as many places as Japan invaded

Tibet and so many other places are still occupied by communist countries while Japan never occupied a place for 70 years but cucks and communists and Japan haters still bitch about it like easily triggered degenerates because Japan doesn't bend over like Germany. Also communism killed way more than the Japanese or the axis powers or democracies or any other group.

[Collatis]

lol sounds like as many places as Japan invaded

Tibet and so many other places are still occupied by communist countries while Japan never occupied a place for 70 years but cucks and communists and Japan haters still bitch about it like easily triggered degenerates because Japan doesn't bend over like Germany. Also communism killed way more than the Japanese or the axis powers or democracies or any other group.

Yeah, why would anyone care about the Rape of Nanking? It's not like up to 300,000 people were murdered and Japanese officials continue to deny it to this day, or anything! Get over it already!

[Taihei Tengoku]

lol sounds like as many places as Japan invaded

Tibet and so many other places are still occupied by communist countries while Japan never occupied a place for 70 years but cucks and communists and Japan haters still bitch about it like easily triggered degenerates because Japan doesn't bend over like Germany. Also communism killed way more than the Japanese or the axis powers or democracies or any other group.

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[Kyrusia]

Tibet and so many other places are still occupied by communist countries while Japan never occupied a place for 70 years but cucks and communists and Japan haters still bitch about it like easily triggered degenerates because Japan doesn't bend over like Germany. Also communism killed way more than the Japanese or the axis powers or democracies or any other group.

Iyanden: This isn't 4chan, 8chan, or any other imageboard. *** Warning for trolling. *** I suggest you read the rules if you intend to continue participating on this forum.

[Shrillland]

It's a few days old, but it'll give you the idea of who wants to work with whom: http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201710090037.html

LDP and Komeito still working together, Kibo no To and Nippon Ishi no Kai are campagining together(Koike says she's open to a coalition with the LDP, however), and the CDP, JCP, and the Social Democrats(a minor party with two seats) are the third big force.

[Iyanden]

Tibet and so many other places are still occupied by communist countries while Japan never occupied a place for 70 years but cucks and communists and Japan haters still bitch about it like easily triggered degenerates because Japan doesn't bend over like Germany. Also communism killed way more than the Japanese or the axis powers or democracies or any other group.

Yeah, why would anyone care about the Rape of Nanking? It's not like up to 300,000 people were murdered and Japanese officials continue to deny it to this day, or anything! Get over it already!

I couldn't give a s*** its in the past and the ones involved are dead while red China commit genocide in Tibet they still moan at Japan from stuff 70 years ago. I am really glad that Japan doesn't apologise about it(they did in the past) as that mentality leads to the country being like Germany where they are taught to hate themselves and destroy them selves and others(They will be a minority in their own country by 2050 and they are trying to force countries like the UK and Poland to go down the abyss with them). Banzai Nippon! Screw anyone that's offended

[Iyanden]

Tibet and so many other places are still occupied by communist countries while Japan never occupied a place for 70 years but cucks and communists and Japan haters still bitch about it like easily triggered degenerates because Japan doesn't bend over like Germany. Also communism killed way more than the Japanese or the axis powers or democracies or any other group.

Iyanden: This isn't 4chan, 8chan, or any other imageboard. *** Warning for trolling. *** I suggest you read the rules if you intend to continue participating on this forum.

I am not trolling I am very serious also I read the rules and I didn't break anything

[Shrillland]

Polls will soon be open across the country, and we'll soon find out if Abe will get enough seats to fulfill his fantasies. A lot of ballots are being cast early thanks to Typhoon Lan, but a lot of people are still going to the polls as the LDP and Komeito are poised to be re-elected to lead for the 6,311th time running. Polls will be closing at:

20:00 JST
12:00 BST
07:00 EDT

And then, we'll know all.

[Mazujotai]

Bruh what the actual fuck happened to the Democratic Party?

[Duvniask]

Bruh what the actual fuck happened to the Democratic Party?

It split, which may well have been a positive development, because it was an incoherent mess composed of everything from revisionist conservatives and nationalists, many of them disgruntled LDP veterans, to liberals and center-leftists, who had been part of the former Japan Socialist Party (today the Social Democratic Party). It was plagued by infighting, because it was more or less united only by being opposed to the ruling LDP. And after they won the general election in 2009, the Democratic Party accomplished little of what they had set out to do before they were removed from power again in 2012, despite their image being that of an ambitious, reform-minded party. In fact, legislative activity declined, meaning they accomplished little of anything. Source: Kenji E. Kushida and Phillip Y. Lipscy, The Rise and Fall of the Democratic Party of Japan

Hardly surprising that it went down the drain, but now that some of the most conservative elements have gone to Kibō no Tō, I suppose the succesor, the Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan, might actually have a shot at becoming a real party.

[Thermodolia]

Yeah, why would anyone care about the Rape of Nanking? It's not like up to 300,000 people were murdered and Japanese officials continue to deny it to this day, or anything! Get over it already!

I couldn't give a s*** its in the past and the ones involved are dead while red China commit genocide in Tibet they still moan at Japan from stuff 70 years ago. I am really glad that Japan doesn't apologise about it(they did in the past) as that mentality leads to the country being like Germany where they are taught to hate themselves and destroy them selves and others(They will be a minority in their own country by 2050 and they are trying to force countries like the UK and Poland to go down the abyss with them). Banzai Nippon! Screw anyone that's offended

Ok then I better not see you advocating for any 70 year old ideas or using things that happened 70 years to support your claims

[Collatis]

Shinzo Abe’s coalition is projected to win the Japanese election

Public broadcaster NHK is predicting that Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s Liberal Democratic Party won between 253 and 300 seats and coalition partner Komeito garnered 26 to 37 seats — potentially enough to maintain the coalition’s supermajority in the 465-seat House of Representatives.

NHK suggests that [Tokyo Gov. Yuriko] Koike’s Party of Hope would struggle to come second in the vote, with 38 to 59 seats. Another new party — the anti-amendment Constitutional Democratic Party — looked set to be the second-largest party in the lower house, though still far behind the LDP with 44 to 67 seats.

Speaking to reporters in Paris, Koike said she was disappointed. “It's a very harsh result. My remarks and behavior made people feel unpleasant, and that led to the harsh result,” Koike said, according to Kyodo news agency. “I reflect on this and feel I might have been arrogant.”

However, some analysts suggest that the weakness of the opposition may mask discontent with Abe and a lack of support for many of his policies. Koichi Nakano, a professor of political science at Sophia University, said that if Abe is ultimately unable to retain his coalition’s supermajority, it will not be a “real victory” for the prime minister.

“It exposes the fragility of his support,” Nakano said. Abe did not win “because people enthusiastically support him. People are disaffected and the opposition is divided.”

The bad weather may have helped the LDP, too, with suggestions that the approaching typhoon would keep voters away from polling stations. Kyodo estimated the final turnout rate at 53.83 percent — only marginally above the record low in the 2014 election.

That turnout was “remarkable given the weather,” said Tobias Harris, a political analyst with Teneo Intelligence, but it was “ultimately not good enough to give much of a boost to opposition candidates in close races.”

[Saiwania]

The people have spoken and the direction is clear- it is time for a re-militarized Japan. One that is an equal partner, rather than a protectorate of the United States. Article 9 will officially be discarded, which has been a long time coming.

[Duvniask]

The people have spoken and the direction is clear- it is time for a re-militarized Japan. One that is an equal partner, rather than a protectorate of the United States. Article 9 will officially be discarded, which has been a long time coming.

Why do you act like this is somehow the "will of the people" when there is widespread voter apathy, pathetic opposition parties, low voter-turnout (barely above the low-point of the last one, according to Kyodo), and a dysfunctional electoral system that creates enormous disparity? Last time around, the LDP gained 48.1% of the Local Constituency Vote and 33.11% of the PR Block Vote, yet somehow ended up with 291 (61.21%) of the 475 seats in the lower house. Abe saying that somehow gave him a popular mandate was completely absurd then, and I doubt it will be any less absurd now.

[Borovan4]

I support Abe

[MERIZoC]

Another year of abysmal turnout with the govt in the exact same place as before. What a healthy society.

[Shrillland]

Another year of abysmal turnout with the govt in the exact same place as before. What a healthy society.

Such is Japan, it seems. Keep in mind that Lan had a major effect on turnout, though.

[Shrillland]

Well, the LDP coalition definitely crossed the threshold, beating even the NHK predictions by a good amount: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/2017election/

They'll get enough for their army, I think. This despite both parties actually losing a small number of seats so far.

[Kennlind]

Interesting result. Surprised Kibo no To did so poorly. Suppose that's what you get for splitting the vote. Ah well, I dislike Shinzo Abe but I don't hate him. Hopefully he doesn't escalate the tensions with the DPRK and can work something out peacefully.