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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:42 pm

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Listen M8, I'm not what any one can call a friend of Ivan. You are being hysterical. Please you are making the rest of us look bad.

Sharania isn't a person TEM. It's you know who remember?


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Postby Shofercia » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:43 pm

The of Japan wrote:Also not so surprising from the puppet of a certain Russophile who has already posted a ton on this thread.


Contrary to New Werpland's false accusations, Sharania is not my puppet. The Monitor, (one of the mods,) went through the logs on the back end of NS, and sank those accusations faster than she sank the Merrimack. Since he is quite persistent with his falsehoods, they were reported to moderation. Again. Now, can we get back to the thread please?


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The Flutterlands wrote:Well, it should end. Peace between nations should be top priority.

As soon as Russia stops trying to take over Europe.


Russia hasn't even taken over Ukraine. You willing to start WWIII over a part of a bankrupt country? Clinton was willing to get it on over an airstrip...
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Postby De Almerland » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:15 pm

Why do people keep viewing Russia as the bad guys, the cold war is over, and the USSR no longer exists, the real bad guys are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Pakistan.
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Postby Auristania » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:24 pm

De Almerland wrote:Why do people keep viewing Russia as the bad guys, the cold war is over, and the USSR no longer exists, the real bad guys are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Pakistan.

Very true, but Russia did fuck USA up the ass by imposing Trump. Even ISIL Daesh never imposed a POTUS.

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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:48 pm

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De Almerland wrote:Why do people keep viewing Russia as the bad guys, the cold war is over, and the USSR no longer exists, the real bad guys are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Pakistan.

Very true, but Russia did fuck USA up the ass by imposing Trump. Even ISIL Daesh never imposed a POTUS.

Proof that they imposed Trump? Besides we impose leaders in other countries all the time.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:41 pm

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The of Japan wrote:Also not so surprising from the puppet of a certain Russophile who has already posted a ton on this thread.


Contrary to New Werpland's false accusations, Sharania is not my puppet. The Monitor, (one of the mods,) went through the logs on the back end of NS, and sank those accusations faster than she sank the Merrimack. Since he is quite persistent with his falsehoods, they were reported to moderation. Again. Now, can we get back to the thread please?


The Empire of Pretantia wrote:As soon as Russia stops trying to take over Europe.


Russia hasn't even taken over Ukraine.

But they're trying.
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Shofercia wrote:The Monitor, (one of the mods,) went through the logs on the back end of NS, and sank those accusations faster than she sank the Merrimack.


Nitpick, but the Monitor didn't sink the Virginia.
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Postby Sernarbia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:00 am

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So anyone who supports this investigation is evil?

No, but it's a bit infuriating when even God himself is making a big deal about this, calling it an act of war as if Russia became the Soviet Union again and attacked Pearl Harbor


Oh come on. This has nothing to do with the anti communist paranoia of the 50's. There is very real evidence to suggest that Russian actors had influence over the 2016 election. I don't know how you can deny this at this point without sounding like a flat earther.

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Postby Sernarbia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:01 am

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The of Japan wrote:Also not so surprising from the puppet of a certain Russophile who has already posted a ton on this thread.


Contrary to New Werpland's false accusations, Sharania is not my puppet. The Monitor, (one of the mods,) went through the logs on the back end of NS, and sank those accusations faster than she sank the Merrimack. Since he is quite persistent with his falsehoods, they were reported to moderation. Again. Now, can we get back to the thread please?




Sure thing, Sharania! :)

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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:04 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:No, but it's a bit infuriating when even God himself is making a big deal about this, calling it an act of war as if Russia became the Soviet Union again and attacked Pearl Harbor


Oh come on. This has nothing to do with the anti communist paranoia of the 50's. There is very real evidence to suggest that Russian actors had influence over the 2016 election. I don't know how you can deny this at this point without sounding like a flat earther.

I am not denying Russian influence, but I believe it has been greatly exaggerated to the point of ridiculousness. Rather I'm talking about people comparing said influence to actual, deadly attacks such as Pearl Harbor and 9/11 where people actually died. After all Morgan Freeman actually claimed we were attacked by Russia, even though we weren't, and we are at war with Russia, even though we are not. You don't see how such rhetoric can be dangerous?
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Postby Kennlind » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:40 am

This is sad. Morgan Freeman is a good actor and I enjoy his works, but whatever, this puts me off him. Another rich bourgeois hollywood liberal agitating for nuclear war. Even worse is he's black and siding with a white supremacist country...
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:42 am

Sernarbia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Contrary to New Werpland's false accusations, Sharania is not my puppet. The Monitor, (one of the mods,) went through the logs on the back end of NS, and sank those accusations faster than she sank the Merrimack. Since he is quite persistent with his falsehoods, they were reported to moderation. Again. Now, can we get back to the thread please?




Sure thing, Sharania! :)

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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:12 am

Sernarbia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:No, but it's a bit infuriating when even God himself is making a big deal about this, calling it an act of war as if Russia became the Soviet Union again and attacked Pearl Harbor


Oh come on. This has nothing to do with the anti communist paranoia of the 50's. There is very real evidence to suggest that Russian actors had influence over the 2016 election. I don't know how you can deny this at this point without sounding like a flat earther.

And there is real evidence the Soviet Union infiltrated US institutions in the 1950's.

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Postby Shofercia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:51 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Russia hasn't even taken over Ukraine.

But they're trying.


Not really. There's support for the DonBass Rebels - that's true, but the actual Russian Armed Forces haven't rolled into Ukraine. If Russia was really trying, Ukraine would actually be invaded by now. With an actual army.


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Shofercia wrote:The Monitor, (one of the mods,) went through the logs on the back end of NS, and sank those accusations faster than she sank the Merrimack.


Nitpick, but the Monitor didn't sink the Virginia.


Fair enough. I was just trying to be friendly with a mod who went through tons of shit on the back log. That's not fun. Not even for a ship.


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The Flutterlands wrote:No, but it's a bit infuriating when even God himself is making a big deal about this, calling it an act of war as if Russia became the Soviet Union again and attacked Pearl Harbor


Oh come on. This has nothing to do with the anti communist paranoia of the 50's. There is very real evidence to suggest that Russian actors had influence over the 2016 election. I don't know how you can deny this at this point without sounding like a flat earther.


Influence? Are you referring to the capacity to have an effect on the character, development, or behavior of someone or something, or the effect itself? If so, was Obama such an imbecile, that he allowed Russia to rig America's Elections at Putin's Whim on his watch?


Farnhamia wrote:Here's the deal: you will stop this Shofercia = Sharania crap and you will stop it now. Given your previous record and the rate at which you're piling up offenses, you'll be out of here in no time.


Just want to point out that now a second moderator has confirmed that there's absolutely no evidence to show that I am somehow connected to Sharania, other than saying that we both debate about Russia. I have to wonder, if all moderators confirm this... will that be enough? Furthermore, all of my puppets are clearly designated as Puppets of Shofercia. I do not, nor have I ever engaged in puppet wanking.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:53 pm

Sharania wrote:Morgan Freeman says: "Join the fight against Russia."

"For 241 years, our democracy has been a shining example to the world of what we can all aspire to. And we owe to the brave people who have fought and died this great nation and save democracy. And we owe it to our future generations to continue the fight."


Found it via the Commitee to Investigate Russia.

I've always thought that Morgan Freeman was a great actor. That he had integrity. He IS a great man as well and it shows.

This is not movie script. This is a reality we live in now. Morgan Freeman is not acting. He is talking to us. He tells the truth.

I agree completely. Why should we try to be diplomatic with the nation that just attacked us? So we're supposed to just let them keep putting puppets in charge over here? This was not some isolated incident, these attacks will only escalate from here. So we have to retaliate. We either fight back or accept being a Russian client state. Join a Good Fight.

But sharing awareness about what really happened last year and demanding justice is only one aspect of the Good Fight. So I ask fellow NS members – what can we do besides it? How else can we, the people, retaliate?

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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:02 pm

Sharania wrote:Morgan Freeman says: "Join the fight against Russia."

"For 241 years, our democracy has been a shining example to the world of what we can all aspire to. And we owe to the brave people who have fought and died this great nation and save democracy. And we owe it to our future generations to continue the fight."


Found it via the Commitee to Investigate Russia.

I've always thought that Morgan Freeman was a great actor. That he had integrity. He IS a great man as well and it shows.

This is not movie script. This is a reality we live in now. Morgan Freeman is not acting. He is talking to us. He tells the truth.

I agree completely. Why should we try to be diplomatic with the nation that just attacked us? So we're supposed to just let them keep putting puppets in charge over here? This was not some isolated incident, these attacks will only escalate from here. So we have to retaliate. We either fight back or accept being a Russian client state. Join a Good Fight.

But sharing awareness about what really happened last year and demanding justice is only one aspect of the Good Fight. So I ask fellow NS members – what can we do besides it? How else can we, the people, retaliate?

Again, this is warmongering of the most dangerous kind . Plain and simple. There is no concrete evidence made public that Russia hacked us or that Trump colluded with such hacking or even that Trump is acting in Russia's best interest. I would rather see every single drop of evidence before ever making such accusations. I am ashamed that such a great actor is using his amazing voice to beat the drums into a nuclear war nither side wants us to get into, just so the elite could continue to fuel the Miltary Industrial Complex.

Also how can you call for an investigation into Russia if you're already under the conviction on they're guilty and calling for war? Make up your mind.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:07 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Sharania wrote:Morgan Freeman says: "Join the fight against Russia."



Found it via the Commitee to Investigate Russia.

I've always thought that Morgan Freeman was a great actor. That he had integrity. He IS a great man as well and it shows.

This is not movie script. This is a reality we live in now. Morgan Freeman is not acting. He is talking to us. He tells the truth.

I agree completely. Why should we try to be diplomatic with the nation that just attacked us? So we're supposed to just let them keep putting puppets in charge over here? This was not some isolated incident, these attacks will only escalate from here. So we have to retaliate. We either fight back or accept being a Russian client state. Join a Good Fight.

But sharing awareness about what really happened last year and demanding justice is only one aspect of the Good Fight. So I ask fellow NS members – what can we do besides it? How else can we, the people, retaliate?

Again, this is warmongering of the most dangerous kind . Plain and simple. There is no concrete evidence made public that Russia hacked us or that Trump colluded with such hacking or even that Trump is acting in Russia's best interest. I would rather see every single drop of evidence before ever making such accusations. I am ashamed that such a great actor is using his amazing voice to beat the drums into a nuclear war nither side wants us to get into, just so the elite could continue to fuel the Miltary Industrial Complex.

Also how can you call for an investigation into Russia if you're already under the conviction on they're guilty and calling for war? Make up your mind.

Also isn't the investigation led by mueller already investigating Russia?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Again, this is warmongering of the most dangerous kind . Plain and simple. There is no concrete evidence made public that Russia hacked us or that Trump colluded with such hacking or even that Trump is acting in Russia's best interest. I would rather see every single drop of evidence before ever making such accusations. I am ashamed that such a great actor is using his amazing voice to beat the drums into a nuclear war nither side wants us to get into, just so the elite could continue to fuel the Miltary Industrial Complex.

Also how can you call for an investigation into Russia if you're already under the conviction on they're guilty and calling for war? Make up your mind.

Also isn't the investigation led by mueller already investigating Russia?

Well, he better make every single scrap of evidence public instead of just making vague statements about how he is "confident" Russia hacked is without explaining why or how

Make the evidence as explicit as heliocentrism and global warming.

Also, what the fuck does Freeman mean by fight back? Fight back how? Does he really want us to nuke Russia or something?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:12 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Also isn't the investigation led by mueller already investigating Russia?

Well, he better make every single scrap of evidence public instead of just making vague statements about how he is "confident" Russia hacked is without explaining why or how

Make the evidence as explicit as heliocentrism and global warming.

You still realize that a fuck ton of people don't believe in the latter. Also Mueller won't release any evidence until the investigation is complete.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Well, he better make every single scrap of evidence public instead of just making vague statements about how he is "confident" Russia hacked is without explaining why or how

Make the evidence as explicit as heliocentrism and global warming.

You still realize that a fuck ton of people don't believe in the latter. Also Mueller won't release any evidence until the investigation is complete.

Yeah, but there is evidence of climate change, actual science. There is no evidence of Russian hacking yet they are already calling for WWIII! I don't care if the evidence is sensitive! Release the evidence or it never happened.

Also, Mueller is investigating collusion, whatever that means, not the hacking itself.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:19 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:You still realize that a fuck ton of people don't believe in the latter. Also Mueller won't release any evidence until the investigation is complete.

Yeah, but there is evidence of climate change, actual science. There is no evidence of Russian hacking yet they are already calling for WWIII! I don't care if the evidence is sensitive! Release the evidence or it never happened.

Also, Mueller is investigating collusion, whatever that means, not the hacking itself.

No you don't release any information during an investigation because the targets might see it.

However we shouldn't call for any actions against Russia until after the investigation. Also collusion means if Trump campaign, not just Trump, conspired with or attempted to conspire with Russia to meddle in the election
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:02 pm

Sharania wrote:
Risottia wrote:Because Russia didn't attack the US (not militarily: if they did, various American cities would be trinitite right now), because Russia didn't start placing bases and installing puppet governments in the countries bordering America, and because if you drop diplomacy against someone who's got all of those nukes, you're going to pay a heavy price.


I never said to start a nuclear war, just not to let Russia destabilize the US, destroy democratic institutions, and not let them become the new world policeman.

After a good 70 years of America playing the world policeman, destabilising other countries (Russia included) and destroying the institutions of other countries (Russia included), this is hardly the most persuading argument ever.

Anyway, if Mr.Freeman and you aren't suggesting to start a war, what are you suggesting? More sanctions, which the Kremlin has shown it can just shrug away? More funding for Poroshenko's little band of lapdogs? Making Georgia Great Again? Support the biggest opposition party in Russia? Or just running around the neighbourhood with some friend and some bats and beating up anyone who has a Russian-sounding name in the case he's a Putinist fifth -columnist? Smash imported vodka bottles?

Or just raise the US military budget AGAIN?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:19 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:But they're trying.


Not really. There's support for the DonBass Rebels - that's true, but the actual Russian Armed Forces haven't rolled into Ukraine. If Russia was really trying, Ukraine would actually be invaded by now. With an actual army.

I don't but this. The fact they're even supporting the rebels is evidence that they're trying to expand their sphere of influence
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:42 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Not really. There's support for the DonBass Rebels - that's true, but the actual Russian Armed Forces haven't rolled into Ukraine. If Russia was really trying, Ukraine would actually be invaded by now. With an actual army.

I don't but this. The fact they're even supporting the rebels is evidence that they're trying to expand their sphere of influence

There's a slight difference between "expanding one's sphere of influence" and "sending one's army to invade" which, after some time, I'm sure you are going to appreciate.
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