Morgan Freeman: “Join the Good Fight”

[Oil exporting People]

That's a right-wing strawman mocking serious accusations verified by U.S. intelligence. And since the usual WMD well poisoning will come up, the Bush Administration and especially Cheney were dead set that "evidence" would be "discovered" with or without intelligence cooperation.

I'll reiterate my question, was there any evidence of hacking in the voting machines? Or, for that matter, any evidence of voting boxes being stuffed?

[Tekeristan]

Can we just agree that election tampering is bad and we're all against it?
It isn't a left or right issue, it's an issue.

[Shofercia]

Has there ever been evidence of a hack on voting booths?

That's a right-wing strawman mocking serious accusations verified by U.S. intelligence. And since the usual WMD well poisoning will come up, the Bush Administration and especially Cheney were dead set that "evidence" would be "discovered" with or without intelligence cooperation.

With no direct evidence presented to the public. Speaking of evidence: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -elections

One of the mysteries about the 2016 presidential election is why Russian intelligence, after gaining access to state and local systems, didn’t try to disrupt the vote. One possibility is that the American warning was effective. Another former senior U.S. official, who asked for anonymity to discuss the classified U.S. probe into pre-election hacking, said a more likely explanation is that several months of hacking failed to give the attackers the access they needed to master America’s disparate voting systems spread across more than 7,000 local jurisdictions.

Of course that little factoid was buried 9 paragraphs into the article. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to take anyone claiming that Russia has the means to decide the US Presidential Elections, without laughing my ass at said person. Even if it's Comey.

In the American System of Jurisprudence, there are several key concepts, including motive, means, and opportunity. One has to be very clueless to believe that Russia had the means to elect America's President, and even more clueless to think that if Russia had the means, the choice would be Donald Trump.

Also, this part is just hilarious: Russian intelligence, after gaining access to state and local systems... several months of hacking failed to give the attackers the access they needed to master America’s disparate voting systems spread across more than 7,000 local jurisdictions

The Russians had access... by failing to have said access. That's a genius way of gaining access!

[The of Japan]

That's a right-wing strawman mocking serious accusations verified by U.S. intelligence. And since the usual WMD well poisoning will come up, the Bush Administration and especially Cheney were dead set that "evidence" would be "discovered" with or without intelligence cooperation.

With no direct evidence presented to the public. Speaking of evidence: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -elections

One of the mysteries about the 2016 presidential election is why Russian intelligence, after gaining access to state and local systems, didn’t try to disrupt the vote. One possibility is that the American warning was effective. Another former senior U.S. official, who asked for anonymity to discuss the classified U.S. probe into pre-election hacking, said a more likely explanation is that several months of hacking failed to give the attackers the access they needed to master America’s disparate voting systems spread across more than 7,000 local jurisdictions.

Of course that little factoid was buried 9 paragraphs into the article. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to take anyone claiming that Russia has the means to decide the US Presidential Elections, without laughing my ass at said person. Even if it's Comey.

In the American System of Jurisprudence, there are several key concepts, including motive, means, and opportunity. One has to be very clueless to believe that Russia had the means to elect America's President, and even more clueless to think that if Russia had the means, the choice would be Donald Trump.

Also, this part is just hilarious: Russian intelligence, after gaining access to state and local systems... several months of hacking failed to give the attackers the access they needed to master America’s disparate voting systems spread across more than 7,000 local jurisdictions

The Russians had access... by failing to have said access. That's a genius way of gaining access!

The US isn't stupid enough to use electronic voting, if that was the case, then ANY foreign country could interfere. Russia hacking elections is total Bullshit, that we can agree with. Trump isn't a putin puppet, however misguided he may be.

[The of Japan]

Can we just agree that election tampering is bad and we're all against it?
It isn't a left or right issue, it's an issue.

what election tampering? seriously, this is like a meme now.

[Sharania]

Breaking!

RFE/RL: ‘A top NATO adviser on Russian Internet propaganda and disinformation campaigns says U.S. actor Morgan Freeman appears to have been targeted by “coordinated, pro-Kremlin social-media attacks”.’

Fredheim told RFE/RL on September 21 that he could not say whether the avalanche of recent English-language attacks against Freeman on Twitter, YouTube, and other social media were directly coordinated by the Kremlin. But he said the timing and similarity of many of the initial attacks suggest an army of pro-Kremlin, online trolls may have taken a cue from the criticism of Freeman by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on September 20, one day after the Freeman video’s release. ‘It does look very highly coordinated, because you’re seeing something on multiple platforms at the same time communicating the same message,’ Fredheim said. ‘It’s more than just a teenager in the basement. It could be many teenagers in many basements. But it could also be something more sophisticated than that…the St. Petersburg troll factories, for instance. It could be an example of some kind of Russian troll-farm output.’

This is also reported elsewhere:

WaPo: Why bashing Morgan Freeman, of all people, is suddenly the rage in Russia

VICE: ‘Russian trolls are waging war on Morgan Freeman’

BBC: ‘Russia has aimed its entire media arsenal at the veteran Hollywood actor Morgan Freeman’

[Gauthier]

Breaking!

RFE/RL: ‘A top NATO adviser on Russian Internet propaganda and disinformation campaigns says U.S. actor Morgan Freeman appears to have been targeted by “coordinated, pro-Kremlin social-media attacks”.’

Fredheim told RFE/RL on September 21 that he could not say whether the avalanche of recent English-language attacks against Freeman on Twitter, YouTube, and other social media were directly coordinated by the Kremlin. But he said the timing and similarity of many of the initial attacks suggest an army of pro-Kremlin, online trolls may have taken a cue from the criticism of Freeman by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on September 20, one day after the Freeman video’s release. ‘It does look very highly coordinated, because you’re seeing something on multiple platforms at the same time communicating the same message,’ Fredheim said. ‘It’s more than just a teenager in the basement. It could be many teenagers in many basements. But it could also be something more sophisticated than that…the St. Petersburg troll factories, for instance. It could be an example of some kind of Russian troll-farm output.’

This is also reported elsewhere:

WaPo: Why bashing Morgan Freeman, of all people, is suddenly the rage in Russia

VICE: ‘Russian trolls are waging war on Morgan Freeman’

BBC: ‘Russia has aimed its entire media arsenal at the veteran Hollywood actor Morgan Freeman’

No such thing as state sponsored trolls, sore loser Democrats et cetera.

[The of Japan]

Breaking!

RFE/RL: ‘A top NATO adviser on Russian Internet propaganda and disinformation campaigns says U.S. actor Morgan Freeman appears to have been targeted by “coordinated, pro-Kremlin social-media attacks”.’



This is also reported elsewhere:

WaPo: Why bashing Morgan Freeman, of all people, is suddenly the rage in Russia

VICE: ‘Russian trolls are waging war on Morgan Freeman’

BBC: ‘Russia has aimed its entire media arsenal at the veteran Hollywood actor Morgan Freeman’

No such thing as state sponsored trolls, sore loser Democrats et cetera.

there is, but against Baltic states and stuff, not US

[Oil exporting People]

Breaking!

RFE/RL: ‘A top NATO adviser on Russian Internet propaganda and disinformation campaigns says U.S. actor Morgan Freeman appears to have been targeted by “coordinated, pro-Kremlin social-media attacks”.’

Fredheim told RFE/RL on September 21 that he could not say whether the avalanche of recent English-language attacks against Freeman on Twitter, YouTube, and other social media were directly coordinated by the Kremlin. But he said the timing and similarity of many of the initial attacks suggest an army of pro-Kremlin, online trolls may have taken a cue from the criticism of Freeman by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on September 20, one day after the Freeman video’s release. ‘It does look very highly coordinated, because you’re seeing something on multiple platforms at the same time communicating the same message,’ Fredheim said. ‘It’s more than just a teenager in the basement. It could be many teenagers in many basements. But it could also be something more sophisticated than that…the St. Petersburg troll factories, for instance. It could be an example of some kind of Russian troll-farm output.’

This is also reported elsewhere:

WaPo: Why bashing Morgan Freeman, of all people, is suddenly the rage in Russia

VICE: ‘Russian trolls are waging war on Morgan Freeman’

BBC: ‘Russia has aimed its entire media arsenal at the veteran Hollywood actor Morgan Freeman’

> Spokesman for a political campaign claims his nation is at war with another nation
> Media can't figure out why said other nation responds negatively

[Empire of Narnia]

Let's all have a second cold war!

Russia would be at even more of a disadvantage this time round tho.

A cornered animal is more dangerous.

[Blasted Craigs]

Morgan Freeman says: "Join the fight."



Found it via the Commitee to Investigate Russia.

I've always thought that Morgan Freeman was a great actor. That he had integrity. He IS a great man as well and it shows.

This is not movie script. This is a reality we live in now. Morgan Freeman is not acting. He is talking to us. He tells the truth.

I agree completely. Why should we try to be diplomatic with the nation that just attacked us? So we're supposed to just let them keep putting puppets in charge over here? This was not some isolated incident, these attacks will only escalate from here. So we have to retaliate. We either fight back or accept being a Russian client state. Join a Good Fight.

But sharing awareness about what really happened last year and demanding justice is only one aspect of the Good Fight. So I ask fellow NS members – what can we do besides it? How else can we, the people, retaliate?

we should stop pretending Russia is our friend, they are on a quest to restore Russia's preeminence over eastern Europe and much of the world, and to restore their superpower status. we should help countries like Ukraine and Georgia that Russia has/are invading, and to stop and then roll back their expansionism.

And so....my question to this....
Russia attacked us via a cyber attack they are suggesting. And then insist we fight back against Russia. Ok, if you have that viewpoint...
What about China? Should we also go to war with them? They contributed heavily via donations to the Clinton's in the 90's and engaged in cyber attacks against American military, government, and industrial targets with disastrous effects.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449539/chinese-illegally-donated-bill-clinton-reelection-campaign-media-downplayed

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/background.htm

http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/01/22/the-top-10-chinese-cyber-attacks-that-we-know-of/

https://psmag.com/environment/chinas-cyber-attacks-united-states-89919

Now.....if you agree we should attack Russia and China....Ok, you may be a war monger, but at least you aren't a hypocrite.
Otherwise, if you think Chinese meddling in our affairs is benign and Russian meddling is worthy of retaliation, I think you are simply indignant your candidate of choice lost to the candidate you hate, and you simply want someone to blame instead of accepting that the democratic process in America elected someone you disagree with.
This Trump hysteria, though funny at first, is dangerous, especially when we have people with influence over American discourse (I.e. Hollywood) trying to influence our country to enter into a disastrous war with Russia. Either war would be disastrous. We have trouble waging war on a country (looking at you Iraq) that is roughly half the size of Texas.

http://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country-size-comparison/iraq/texas-usa

Also, Iraq, which our military had trouble fighting and garrisoning, had a force of about 300-350 thousand troops in the regular forces (which were so poorly equipped, often were found to not even have shoes) and have 60-70 thousand Republican Guard, 15 thousand of which were elite Republican guards.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/iraq-iraqs-prewar-military-capabilities

Russia, on the other hand, has over 3 million troops (798,527 active duty, 2,572,500 reserves) and a potential to field (if drafted) 70,000,000. Yes, 70 million.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=russia

Also, Russia's military is on par with ours technologically, not outclassed by U.S. forces like Iraq's was.
Now....U.S. Strength.
2,363,675 total military personnel (1,373,650 active duty, 990,025 reserve) and a potential draft of 145 million.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-states-of-america

So on the surface, it looks like we may have less trained forces overall, but almost double the active duty (already equipped and battle ready).
So far so good. We also have almost a 2-1 advantage in draft numbers. But, there are other considerations.
America is strong, but occupied with peacekeeping missions around the world, and has to leave forces in certain locations to keep certain threats to world stability in check. So in all reality, we have to keep some of our forces back from the U.S./Russia fight, we simply cannot throw all our forces at Russia, and if war is waged, we will be the aggressors.
Next, Russia has the home advantage. We will be attacking their home. They will be defending. And in history, Russia has excelled at attrition warfare. They simply do not give up, whereas we are quick to desire an end to hostilities. (Generally, we seek to end bloodshed after 10 or so years.)
Also, our military, due to cutbacks and attrition from the war on terror, has seen a reduction in capability and will to fight. So bad Marines recently scavenged a museum for aircraft parts.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a20134/marines-had-to-scrounge-for-f-a-18-parts-at-a-museum/

Now, regardless of which side starts losing, there is another wildcard. Both nations have a HUGE nuclear arsenal. A fraction of these nukes detonated at once has the capability to plunge the Earth into Armageddon.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/many-nukes-world-could-destroy/

Really, advocating war with Russia, the world's number 2 superpower, is absurd, and endangers the entire world. Life is not a video game, this is not WW1 or WW2, since the creation and proliferation of Nukes, world war is a recipe for man's extinction. And war between the world's number 1 and number 2 superpowers is comparable to a world war. The best we could hope for is a Pyrrhic victory. We win, then die with the rest of humanity.
This is what Clinton advocated, and why the prospect of her at the helm terrified me. The utter disregard for the consequences of war with Russia.

That is why advocating for a Russian U.S. war is irresponsible. You may be posturing for political points, but....
Heaven help us all if they get what they are asking for.

[The United Holy German Reich]

we should stop pretending Russia is our friend, they are on a quest to restore Russia's preeminence over eastern Europe and much of the world, and to restore their superpower status. we should help countries like Ukraine and Georgia that Russia has/are invading, and to stop and then roll back their expansionism.

And so....my question to this....
Russia attacked us via a cyber attack they are suggesting. And then insist we fight back against Russia. Ok, if you have that viewpoint...
What about China? Should we also go to war with them? They contributed heavily via donations to the Clinton's in the 90's and engaged in cyber attacks against American military, government, and industrial targets with disastrous effects.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449539/chinese-illegally-donated-bill-clinton-reelection-campaign-media-downplayed

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/background.htm

http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/01/22/the-top-10-chinese-cyber-attacks-that-we-know-of/

https://psmag.com/environment/chinas-cyber-attacks-united-states-89919

Now.....if you agree we should attack Russia and China....Ok, you may be a war monger, but at least you aren't a hypocrite.
Otherwise, if you think Chinese meddling in our affairs is benign and Russian meddling is worthy of retaliation, I think you are simply indignant your candidate of choice lost to the candidate you hate, and you simply want someone to blame instead of accepting that the democratic process in America elected someone you disagree with.
This Trump hysteria, though funny at first, is dangerous, especially when we have people with influence over American discourse (I.e. Hollywood) trying to influence our country to enter into a disastrous war with Russia. Either war would be disastrous. We have trouble waging war on a country (looking at you Iraq) that is roughly half the size of Texas.

http://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country-size-comparison/iraq/texas-usa

Also, Iraq, which our military had trouble fighting and garrisoning, had a force of about 300-350 thousand troops in the regular forces (which were so poorly equipped, often were found to not even have shoes) and have 60-70 thousand Republican Guard, 15 thousand of which were elite Republican guards.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/iraq-iraqs-prewar-military-capabilities

Russia, on the other hand, has over 3 million troops (798,527 active duty, 2,572,500 reserves) and a potential to field (if drafted) 70,000,000. Yes, 70 million.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=russia

Also, Russia's military is on par with ours technologically, not outclassed by U.S. forces like Iraq's was.
Now....U.S. Strength.
2,363,675 total military personnel (1,373,650 active duty, 990,025 reserve) and a potential draft of 145 million.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-states-of-america

So on the surface, it looks like we may have less trained forces overall, but almost double the active duty (already equipped and battle ready).
So far so good. We also have almost a 2-1 advantage in draft numbers. But, there are other considerations.
America is strong, but occupied with peacekeeping missions around the world, and has to leave forces in certain locations to keep certain threats to world stability in check. So in all reality, we have to keep some of our forces back from the U.S./Russia fight, we simply cannot throw all our forces at Russia, and if war is waged, we will be the aggressors.
Next, Russia has the home advantage. We will be attacking their home. They will be defending. And in history, Russia has excelled at attrition warfare. They simply do not give up, whereas we are quick to desire an end to hostilities. (Generally, we seek to end bloodshed after 10 or so years.)
Also, our military, due to cutbacks and attrition from the war on terror, has seen a reduction in capability and will to fight. So bad Marines recently scavenged a museum for aircraft parts.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a20134/marines-had-to-scrounge-for-f-a-18-parts-at-a-museum/

Now, regardless of which side starts losing, there is another wildcard. Both nations have a HUGE nuclear arsenal. A fraction of these nukes detonated at once has the capability to plunge the Earth into Armageddon.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/many-nukes-world-could-destroy/

Really, advocating war with Russia, the world's number 2 superpower, is absurd, and endangers the entire world. Life is not a video game, this is not WW1 or WW2, since the creation and proliferation of Nukes, world war is a recipe for man's extinction. And war between the world's number 1 and number 2 superpowers is comparable to a world war. The best we could hope for is a Pyrrhic victory. We win, then die with the rest of humanity.
This is what Clinton advocated, and why the prospect of her at the helm terrified me. The utter disregard for the consequences of war with Russia.

That is why advocating for a Russian U.S. war is irresponsible. You may be posturing for political points, but....
Heaven help us all if they get what they are asking for.

Conventional forces in a war between two nuclear states would be limited to the most basic of operations. The real war would be fought with nuclear weapons and subsequent countermeasures. A US-Russia war would potentially kill off the human species entirely or almost entirely.

[Oil exporting People]

A US-Russia war would potentially kill off the human species entirely or almost entirely.

Not even at the height of the Cold War would such happen; in the present day, such a confrontation wouldn't even destroy either power.

[Blasted Craigs]

A US-Russia war would potentially kill off the human species entirely or almost entirely.

Not even at the height of the Cold War would such happen; in the present day, such a confrontation wouldn't even destroy either power.

Ok....there were plenty of proxy wars..but the U.S. and Russia never actively "engaged" militarily during the cold war, neither side was foolish enough to call for outright war on the other like Hollywood is suggesting. If the forces of the U.S. and Russia were to ever confront each other in open warfare, I hate to tell you, the end result would indeed be the likely extinction of the human race.
Calling on the U.S. to "fight" Russia, showing scenes of tanks and marching troops, and telling the American people that we were "attacked" by Russia, comparing the "attack" to the likes of Pearl Harbor, is not just insidious, it is downright foolish and dangerous. Our elected officials are effectively controlled by the will of the people via the vote, and if American citizens demand with a loud enough voice war, then if elected officials deny said war they will be replaced with officials like Clinton who call for war. And if officials and war hawks like Clinton get what they want, with their delusion we can defeat Russia like some third world nation.....
The human race will likely burn in flames. But hey, at least Trump won't be President while we die, right?
The utter dissonance from reality one sees in these war hawks, that think a war with Russia will "put them Russians in their place" and "make America lots of war revenue money" is ludicrous.
These types of people fall in one of three camps.
Those that are delusional and think Russia is weak, and thus will, as Hitler said, "You only have to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down", "Adolf Hitler, June 1941."

http://www.documentarytube.com/articles/top-10-quotes-from-world-war-ii

He was wrong, and so is anyone who thinks Russia easily defeated.

Second, are those that think of war only as a money making scheme, and good for business. Except Russia is not known to be forgiving, nor do they forget as a people. They will not accept anything except defeat when attacked, and all throughout history, have shown their willingness to exact revenge against those they feel wronged them. This is not some small dictatorship that the American military can attack and then bribe into acceptance to disregard said attack. No Marshall plan will work, no reparations will be accepted, even if we succeed. Russia will, if facing defeat, burn the world down in flames. These are a hard people, very familiar with fighting to the last breath, not willing to lay down arms for anyone. And unlike any other country we have ever attacked and invaded, RUSSIA HAS A HUGE NUCLEAR ARSENAL. We cannot disable all their nukes, and if we attack one nuclear missile silo, the rest will inevitably launch.

Third, are those that don't really want a war, but use inflammatory language to score political points with their base, and use said language to galvanize their base. These are the same type of people that will "allow" groups like ANTIFA to commit violence, and when violence between two groups happens, blame Trump and use said violence to bolster their support. These are the worst in my opinion, craven individuals that use dishonesty and risk harming others to damage their opponents credibility and garner support for their cause. Religious radicals spreading hateful dogma fall in this category as well IMHO.

I like Morgan Freeman, but his actions by giving the weight of his notoriety to lend support for a "good fight" with Russia lands him in either the first or third categories IMHO. To want war with Russia, is to be either Foolish or willfully malevolent.

This is not about "stopping Russia". This is about, at it's core, painting Trump as a Russian Crony to undermine his authority as a duly elected official, and put their chosen successor on the throne. Fortunately, it seems most of America really doesn't listen to Hollywood anymore. At least not about politics. Otherwise, an extinction level war might have been possible. And the people already listening to this garbage are the same ones already yearning for some form of Democratic party revolution, so offended their party lost control of the government when the media assured them the golden age of Democratic Party rule was upon us, that many of them would rather see America burn than endure an elected President they find distasteful. It is the same reason many want the economy to fail, to have war, to see any number of ills befall their fellow Americans, because....
They think we deserve it for electing Trump, and if it makes Trump look bad, any evil to befall America must be a good thing in the long run.

And this line of reasoning, to hate so much one is gleeful at evil to undermine the one they hate, is a dangerous thing indeed. Love should trump hate, and those that hate Trump should let go of the hate, wait until the next election, and stop wishing for Trump and America's failure.

TL/DR
People wanting and calling for a "good fight" i.e. war, are either foolish or malevolent, and are dangerous.

[Blasted Craigs]

Clinton would have potentially started ww3 over Syria,

No she wouldn't have.

From her own mouth.....This is Clinton's own words...
On August 31, 2016 in Cincinnati, Ohio, speaking at The American Legion's national convention, Hillary Clinton said "As President, I will make it clear, that the United States will treat cyber attacks just like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic and military responses."
Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz_dZ2SlPgw

Transcript of speech in question.

http://time.com/4474619/read-hillary-clinton-american-legion-speech/

She is a war hawk.....She wants war.
It's obvious.

[Sernarbia]

No she wouldn't have.

From her own mouth.....This is Clinton's own words...
On August 31, 2016 in Cincinnati, Ohio, speaking at The American Legion's national convention, Hillary Clinton said "As President, I will make it clear, that the United States will treat cyber attacks just like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic and military responses."
Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz_dZ2SlPgw

Transcript of speech in question.

http://time.com/4474619/read-hillary-clinton-american-legion-speech/

She is a war hawk.....She wants war.
It's obvious.

Nowhere did she call for a war against Russia. Stop lying.

[Polvatsiya]

No one said anything back when the Chinese military attempted to hack the white house servers.

[Sernarbia]

I was extremely disappointed when Morgan Freeman drank the Neo-Mccarthyist Kool lade. Like can we not demonize another country for the same shit we do? Like how the actual fuck are we at War with Russia? Did I miss the news about us firing nuclear missiles at each other?

So anyone who supports this investigation is evil?

[Herador]

I was extremely disappointed when Morgan Freeman drank the Neo-Mccarthyist Kool lade. Like can we not demonize another country for the same shit we do? Like how the actual fuck are we at War with Russia? Did I miss the news about us firing nuclear missiles at each other?

So anyone who supports this investigation is evil?

But McCarthy was just doing investigations maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan /s

[Shofercia]

The US isn't stupid enough to use electronic voting, if that was the case, then ANY foreign country could interfere. Russia hacking elections is total Bullshit, that we can agree with. Trump isn't a putin puppet, however misguided he may be.

That's what I've been saying the whole time. Russia has no means of hacking the US election.

Breaking!

RFE/RL: ‘A top NATO adviser on Russian Internet propaganda and disinformation campaigns says U.S. actor Morgan Freeman appears to have been targeted by “coordinated, pro-Kremlin social-media attacks”.’

Fredheim told RFE/RL on September 21 that he could not say whether the avalanche of recent English-language attacks against Freeman on Twitter, YouTube, and other social media were directly coordinated by the Kremlin. But he said the timing and similarity of many of the initial attacks suggest an army of pro-Kremlin, online trolls may have taken a cue from the criticism of Freeman by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on September 20, one day after the Freeman video’s release. ‘It does look very highly coordinated, because you’re seeing something on multiple platforms at the same time communicating the same message,’ Fredheim said. ‘It’s more than just a teenager in the basement. It could be many teenagers in many basements. But it could also be something more sophisticated than that…the St. Petersburg troll factories, for instance. It could be an example of some kind of Russian troll-farm output.’

This is also reported elsewhere:

WaPo: Why bashing Morgan Freeman, of all people, is suddenly the rage in Russia

VICE: ‘Russian trolls are waging war on Morgan Freeman’

BBC: ‘Russia has aimed its entire media arsenal at the veteran Hollywood actor Morgan Freeman’

Morgan Freeman calling for a nuclear war = totally reasonable
People bashing idiot for calling for a nuclear war = trolls

Logic. It's completely absent from those articles.

No such thing as state sponsored trolls, sore loser Democrats et cetera.

Putin personally grew trolls that cost Clinton the election in the Kremlin, and nicknamed them the Gremlins...

there is, but against Baltic states and stuff, not US

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikipediamet ... tors,_2009

Baltic Government funded trolls get caught placing anti-Russian Propaganda on Wikipedia. Whoops. Because apparently Russians really care about Wikipedia...

> Spokesman for a political campaign claims his nation is at war with another nation
> Media can't figure out why said other nation responds negatively

I was extremely disappointed when Morgan Freeman drank the Neo-Mccarthyist Kool lade. Like can we not demonize another country for the same shit we do? Like how the actual fuck are we at War with Russia? Did I miss the news about us firing nuclear missiles at each other?

So anyone who supports this investigation is evil?

Conducting an investigation = ok I guess, I mean it's a waste of funds, but it's nothing major compared to what's usually wasted by US Congress

Calling for nuclear war = either dumb or evil, take your pick

Calling for a policy that will lead to nuclear war, while talking about how you're a Deity that's snorting marijuana, now that's just Morgan Freeman level of idiocy.

[The Flutterlands]

I was extremely disappointed when Morgan Freeman drank the Neo-Mccarthyist Kool lade. Like can we not demonize another country for the same shit we do? Like how the actual fuck are we at War with Russia? Did I miss the news about us firing nuclear missiles at each other?

So anyone who supports this investigation is evil?

No, but it's a bit infuriating when even God himself is making a big deal about this, calling it an act of war as if Russia became the Soviet Union again and attacked Pearl Harbor

[Blakk Metal]

Indeed. He's the outspoken supporter of racism, sexism and bigotry.

'Outspoken'? Since when?

a foreign plant? really? you actually believe the bullshit that the leftist media is pandering? I strongly dislike trump, but I will call out bullshit.

Is WaPo"leftist" now?

The case for Trump-Russia collusion: We’re getting very, very close

We now know the motives. In backing Donald Trump, Russia’s oligarchical class sought not only to disrupt U.S. politics but also to reverse sanctions, both those applied in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and those connected to the Magnitsky Act, which targeted officials involved in human rights violations. In seeking Russian support, Trump sought not only to become president but also to make money: Even as he launched his presidential campaign, he hoped to receive a major influx of money from a proposed Trump Tower in Moscow.

Along with the motives, we know the methods. As the New York Times has just graphically demonstrated, professional Russian Internet trolls, probably operating out of St. Petersburg, set up hundreds of fake Facebook and Twitter accounts during the election campaign. The trolls then posted thousands of fake stories, memes and slogans, supported anti-Clinton hashtags and narratives, and linked back to DCLeaks, the website that posted emails that Russian hackers stole from the Clinton campaign. The emails “revealed” by that hack were utterly banal. But the fake operatives said they contained “hidden truths,” hinted that they were part of a secret “Soros” operation, after liberal financier George Soros, and persuaded people to click. This is a method Russian operatives had used before. Previous elections, in Poland and Ukraine, demonstrated that stolen material — any stolen material — can be used to foment conspiracy theories that never die...

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Here is another piece we don’t know: How did Trump happen to use the same conspiracy theories that were proliferating on Russian media, both real and fake? Again, this could be coincidence. Or, again, there could have been coordination. Messages tested by Russian trolls might have been passed on to the Trump campaign — or vice versa.

I still believe, as I’ve been writing for months, that Trump’s sympathy for Russian President Vladimir Putin, a cynicial and vicious dictator, should, by itself, have eliminated him from U.S. politics. Nothing else that we will ever learn about him makes him more unqualified to be president of the United States.

But for those who want something more, do be aware that circumstantial evidence of Russian collusion with his campaign is already available. And direct evidence is getting very, very close.

I dare you to challenge Anne Appelbaum of all people.

When you say Trump is a foreign plant you are implying Trump is doing things for the Russian government. What he has actually done is standard neocon crap. If Trump was really supported by Russia, he has certainly stabbed them in the back now. Trump isn't trustworthy.

[The of Japan]

a foreign plant? really? you actually believe the bullshit that the leftist media is pandering? I strongly dislike trump, but I will call out bullshit.

Is WaPo"leftist" now?

The case for Trump-Russia collusion: We’re getting very, very close

We now know the motives. In backing Donald Trump, Russia’s oligarchical class sought not only to disrupt U.S. politics but also to reverse sanctions, both those applied in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and those connected to the Magnitsky Act, which targeted officials involved in human rights violations. In seeking Russian support, Trump sought not only to become president but also to make money: Even as he launched his presidential campaign, he hoped to receive a major influx of money from a proposed Trump Tower in Moscow.

Along with the motives, we know the methods. As the New York Times has just graphically demonstrated, professional Russian Internet trolls, probably operating out of St. Petersburg, set up hundreds of fake Facebook and Twitter accounts during the election campaign. The trolls then posted thousands of fake stories, memes and slogans, supported anti-Clinton hashtags and narratives, and linked back to DCLeaks, the website that posted emails that Russian hackers stole from the Clinton campaign. The emails “revealed” by that hack were utterly banal. But the fake operatives said they contained “hidden truths,” hinted that they were part of a secret “Soros” operation, after liberal financier George Soros, and persuaded people to click. This is a method Russian operatives had used before. Previous elections, in Poland and Ukraine, demonstrated that stolen material — any stolen material — can be used to foment conspiracy theories that never die...

[snip]

Here is another piece we don’t know: How did Trump happen to use the same conspiracy theories that were proliferating on Russian media, both real and fake? Again, this could be coincidence. Or, again, there could have been coordination. Messages tested by Russian trolls might have been passed on to the Trump campaign — or vice versa.

I still believe, as I’ve been writing for months, that Trump’s sympathy for Russian President Vladimir Putin, a cynicial and vicious dictator, should, by itself, have eliminated him from U.S. politics. Nothing else that we will ever learn about him makes him more unqualified to be president of the United States.

But for those who want something more, do be aware that circumstantial evidence of Russian collusion with his campaign is already available. And direct evidence is getting very, very close.

I dare you to challenge Anne Appelbaum of all people.

WaPo is leftist in American terms, and I've read dozens of stories on this, and it is bullshit.

[The of Japan]

Is WaPo"leftist" now?

The case for Trump-Russia collusion: We’re getting very, very close



I dare you to challenge Anne Appelbaum of all people.

WaPo is leftist in American terms, and I've read dozens of stories on this, and it is bullshit.

Also not so surprising from the puppet of a certain Russophile who has already posted a ton on this thread.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

The Cold War had only just begun.

Well, it should end. Peace between nations should be top priority.

As soon as Russia stops trying to take over Europe.