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Am I right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:30 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Uhm... the whole slave patrol thing's a bit of a stretch.

I can only speak for Australia, but over here we don't have nearly as many unarmed people being shot by police - but it is still higher than 0.


Oh I guess I just didn't see the news still American style policing is not normal

What is "normal", Keshiland? What is "normal"? Every police force around the world does things differently in their own respective nation. If you are looking for some kind of "universal world police standard" to compare the United States police to, then I will save you some time: it doesn't exist.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:33 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:Finally back in Canada. Anyway enjoy the Carnage you refuse to stop.

Hey, did you know that the Type 97 Chinese bullpup assault rifle's variant the EMEI T97NSR is classified as a non-restricted firearm by the Mounties in Canada? You can get it at a retail store for $1,000 CAD ($781.10 USD). I've always wanted one. Might move to Canada.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:34 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:Finally back in Canada. Anyway enjoy the Carnage you refuse to stop.

Hey, did you know that the Type 97 Chinese bullpup assault rifle's variant the EMEI T97NSR is classified as a non-restricted firearm by the Mounties in Canada? You can get it at a retail store for $1,000 CAD ($781.10 USD). I've always wanted one. Might move to Canada.

But then you'll be stuck with five rounders for it. Ten if they're pistol mags.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:35 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:Finally back in Canada. Anyway enjoy the Carnage you refuse to stop.

Hey, did you know that the Type 97 Chinese bullpup assault rifle's variant the EMEI T97NSR is classified as a non-restricted firearm by the Mounties in Canada? You can get it at a retail store for $1,000 CAD ($781.10 USD). I've always wanted one. Might move to Canada.


I'd like to visit Canada one day to be honest. Nothing to do with buying a gun, it just sounds like a nice place.

On the topic of gun control, moving to a place that shares similar views as yourself does seem one solution to the problem.

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Republic of Keshiland
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:35 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Oh I guess I just didn't see the news still American style policing is not normal

What is "normal", Keshiland? What is "normal"? Every police force around the world does things differently in their own respective nation. If you are looking for some kind of "universal world police standard" to compare the United States police to, then I will save you some time: it doesn't exist.


Normal is being polite, de-escalation, and non lethal takedown. Police around the world in the democracies actually value the citizens lives over there own and will not shoot instantly if they do note have a gun
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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:37 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:Finally back in Canada. Anyway enjoy the Carnage you refuse to stop.

If you refuse to come back, then I'm sure I'll enjoy life here even more. BRB, I gotta go buy myself a new handgun.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:39 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What is "normal", Keshiland? What is "normal"? Every police force around the world does things differently in their own respective nation. If you are looking for some kind of "universal world police standard" to compare the United States police to, then I will save you some time: it doesn't exist.


Normal is being polite, de-escalation, and non lethal takedown.

Like in Spain, yes?
Police around the world in the democracies actually value the citizens lives over there own

That's a an awfully big claim for an awfully large group of people. If it was a racial group instead of a career field it would be racist.
and will not shoot instantly if they do note have a gun

And if they did they would shot instantly?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:40 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What is "normal", Keshiland? What is "normal"? Every police force around the world does things differently in their own respective nation. If you are looking for some kind of "universal world police standard" to compare the United States police to, then I will save you some time: it doesn't exist.


Normal is being polite, de-escalation, and non lethal takedown. Police around the world in the democracies actually value the citizens lives over there own and will not shoot instantly if they do note have a gun

Nope, "normal" is not determined by what you personally think that the police should aspire to. Those "normal" values are not actually normal at all, as they are not seen universally in police forces in all countries. They are not even seen universally in all democracies for that matter. Try again Keshiland.
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:41 pm

Kernen wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:Finally back in Canada. Anyway enjoy the Carnage you refuse to stop.

If you refuse to come back, then I'm sure I'll enjoy life here even more. BRB, I gotta go buy myself a new handgun.


I bought a 1000rds of 5.56 after work today, on seeing the news of manson's death, seemed like a good enough reason to buy some.

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:42 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Normal is being polite, de-escalation, and non lethal takedown. Police around the world in the democracies actually value the citizens lives over there own and will not shoot instantly if they do note have a gun

Nope, "normal" is not determined by what you personally think that the police should aspire to. Those "normal" values are not actually normal at all, as they are not seen universally in police forces in all countries. They are not even seen universally in all democracies for that matter. Try again Keshiland.


Has a police officer in the UK ever yelled in your face or threatened to shoot you or anyone you know? (For non arrest stop)
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:43 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Kernen wrote:If you refuse to come back, then I'm sure I'll enjoy life here even more. BRB, I gotta go buy myself a new handgun.


I bought a 1000rds of 5.56 after work today, on seeing the news of manson's death, seemed like a good enough reason to buy some.


That's a lot of rounds. I'm not very knowledgeable about bullets, but aren't those the sort that an AK 47 fires?

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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:43 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Nope, "normal" is not determined by what you personally think that the police should aspire to. Those "normal" values are not actually normal at all, as they are not seen universally in police forces in all countries. They are not even seen universally in all democracies for that matter. Try again Keshiland.


Has a police officer in the UK ever yelled in your face or threatened to shoot you or anyone you know? (For non arrest stop)

Yes.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:43 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Nope, "normal" is not determined by what you personally think that the police should aspire to. Those "normal" values are not actually normal at all, as they are not seen universally in police forces in all countries. They are not even seen universally in all democracies for that matter. Try again Keshiland.


Has a police officer in the UK ever yelled in your face or threatened to shoot you or anyone you know? (For non arrest stop)

I've never had that happen to me by an American cop...
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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:44 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
I bought a 1000rds of 5.56 after work today, on seeing the news of manson's death, seemed like a good enough reason to buy some.


That's a lot of rounds. I'm not very knowledgeable about bullets, but aren't those the sort that an AK 47 fires?

No, not generally. And it isn't that many rounds unfortunately.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:44 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
I bought a 1000rds of 5.56 after work today, on seeing the news of manson's death, seemed like a good enough reason to buy some.


That's a lot of rounds. I'm not very knowledgeable about bullets, but aren't those the sort that an AK 47 fires?

No. They're NATO (mostly). Russians use the 7.62.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:44 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Nope, "normal" is not determined by what you personally think that the police should aspire to. Those "normal" values are not actually normal at all, as they are not seen universally in police forces in all countries. They are not even seen universally in all democracies for that matter. Try again Keshiland.


Has a police officer in the UK ever yelled in your face or threatened to shoot you or anyone you know? (For non arrest stop)

Yes, they have actually. Your attempt at a countermeasure to what I said has failed miserably, Keshiland.
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Greater Redosia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:44 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Nope, "normal" is not determined by what you personally think that the police should aspire to. Those "normal" values are not actually normal at all, as they are not seen universally in police forces in all countries. They are not even seen universally in all democracies for that matter. Try again Keshiland.


Has a police officer in the UK ever yelled in your face or threatened to shoot you or anyone you know? (For non arrest stop)


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Postby Sovaal » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:45 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
I bought a 1000rds of 5.56 after work today, on seeing the news of manson's death, seemed like a good enough reason to buy some.


That's a lot of rounds. I'm not very knowledgeable about bullets, but aren't those the sort that an AK 47 fires?

Depends on the Ak. The 5.56 was originally developed for the AR 15, however with the round being so common, many comapnies have made 5.56x45mm AKs, and the Polish used them since joining NATO.

Also, 1000 rounds can easily be one shooting session.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:46 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
That's a lot of rounds. I'm not very knowledgeable about bullets, but aren't those the sort that an AK 47 fires?

Depends on the Ak. The 5.56 was originally developed for the AR 15, however with the round being so common, many comapnies have made 5.56x45mm AKs, and the Polish used them since joining NATO


Why does it sound like you are the type of person who does celebratory gun fire
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:46 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
That's a lot of rounds. I'm not very knowledgeable about bullets, but aren't those the sort that an AK 47 fires?

No. They're NATO (mostly). Russians use the 7.62.

Well the Russians mainly use 5.45 nowadays.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:48 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Depends on the Ak. The 5.56 was originally developed for the AR 15, however with the round being so common, many comapnies have made 5.56x45mm AKs, and the Polish used them since joining NATO


Why does it sound like you are the type of person who does celebratory gun fire

Why does it sound like you are making completely unnecessary presumptions about him? Oh, yes, it is because you are doing that.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:49 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Depends on the Ak. The 5.56 was originally developed for the AR 15, however with the round being so common, many comapnies have made 5.56x45mm AKs, and the Polish used them since joining NATO


Why does it sound like you are the type of person who does celebratory gun fire

Celebratory gunfire is the second best kind of gunfire.

The first best is the kind that stays on target.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:50 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Depends on the Ak. The 5.56 was originally developed for the AR 15, however with the round being so common, many comapnies have made 5.56x45mm AKs, and the Polish used them since joining NATO


Why does it sound like you are the type of person who does celebratory gun fire

I'm sorry, what? Do you know how incredibly dangerous that is?

And tell me how being interested in certain subjects makes me some sort mouth breathing gun waving lunatic?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:50 pm

Kernen wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Why does it sound like you are the type of person who does celebratory gun fire

Celebratory gunfire is the second best kind of gunfire.

The first best is the kind that stays on target.


Well it was banned by the UN
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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:51 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Kernen wrote:Celebratory gunfire is the second best kind of gunfire.

The first best is the kind that stays on target.


Well it was banned by the UN

Clearly the UN hasn't been around where I grew up.
From the throne of Khan Juk i'Behemoti, Juk Who-Is-The-Strength-of-the-Behemoth, Supreme Khan of the Ogres of Kernen. May the Khan ever drink the blood of his enemies!

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