Gun Control

[Euslavia]

Then, the state has the duty to maintain the best cyber security technology, with periodic updates to ensure that the same programmes don't become too familiar to criminals. Also, there could be a law passed where all private computers are installed with certain features that block hacking attempts from these platforms. Cyber security has too long been looked at as a private matter. As for databases and mining, America has already been working on the great Prism project. Such projects should be prioritised, further developed, and expanded into other realms, such as financial transactions.

Yeah, such features could never be circumvented, nope never.

Each computer would have to be registered with the state authority and annually pass inspection accompanied by changes in software, much like automobiles pass through registration inspection.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

What's to stop gangs using other forms of currency, such as that of foriegn countries, or gold, or Bitcoins and other deep digital currencies? And I also see no further need for a digital currency to be employed by the US gov. And what about personal transactions, where people just "gift" each other money?

Such gifts could take place, but the state would know that they take place. All the more to add to the Prism database.

You countered nothing else in that entire paragraph.

[Sovaal]

Yeah, such features could never be circumvented, nope never.

Each computer would have to be registered with the state authority and annually pass inspection accompanied by changes in software, much like automobiles pass through registration inspection.

Because unregistered computers would have noway of existing, nosiree.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Yeah, such features could never be circumvented, nope never.

Each computer would have to be registered with the state authority and annually pass inspection accompanied by changes in software, much like automobiles pass through registration inspection.

Because people totally don't build computers or cars at home.

[Euslavia]

Such gifts could take place, but the state would know that they take place. All the more to add to the Prism database.

So your solution to take care of a problem is to replace it with a far more dangerous problem?

What the danger of reducing criminal activity? Someone sounds guilty.

[Grinning Dragon]

Yeah, such features could never be circumvented, nope never.

Each computer would have to be registered with the state authority and annually pass inspection accompanied by changes in software, much like automobiles pass through registration inspection.

As if older computers don't already exist, languishing in basements and attics, ready for their nefarious anti govt work. I don't know where you live, but where I live we don't have registration inspection for our vehicles.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

So your solution to take care of a problem is to replace it with a far more dangerous problem?

What the danger of reducing criminal activity? Someone sounds guilty.

Oh, dang. He got you good, Sov.

[Euslavia]

Each computer would have to be registered with the state authority and annually pass inspection accompanied by changes in software, much like automobiles pass through registration inspection.

Because people totally don't build computers or cars at home.

Each vehicle has to pass road-worthiness tests. So yes, even home-built computers would have to be registered. Prism like software would monitor unregistered IPs, leading to investigations.

[Grinning Dragon]

So your solution to take care of a problem is to replace it with a far more dangerous problem?

What the danger of reducing criminal activity? Someone sounds guilty.

Reducing? I see this increasing said activity.

[The Two Jerseys]

Cash wouldn't factor into the transaction if the system you proposed was ever used. Criminals would just resort to the barter economy, they would never use the monetary system when they know that it is being used to keep tabs on them. Your plan falls at the first hurdle, billions of dollars wasted on an elaborate digital cash tracking system that doesn't work.

This'd probably create an upper class which uses this digital system and then a barter economy or one that uses an alternate currency. Maybe we'll see Bloods buying guns and weed with Monopoly money one day.

No, they'll use the money that Keshi issues in his sovereign city!

[Sovaal]

So your solution to take care of a problem is to replace it with a far more dangerous problem?

What the danger of reducing criminal activity?

There will always be the danger of criminal activity, and there are better ways of lowering it. Rather, what I mean is creating a far to powerful surveillance/police state, which through history have done more to break and destroy the lives of innocents then criminals ever have.

Someone sounds guilty.

Oh fuck off with that bullshit. If a authoritarian police state wanted someone dead or arrested, it doesn't matter whether they've committed no crime or not, they'll find one for you, if they even bother with that.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Because people totally don't build computers or cars at home.

Each vehicle has to pass road-worthiness tests. So yes, even home-built computers would have to be registered. Prism like software would monitor unregistered IPs, leading to investigations.

And what's to stop people from hacking the system and saying their computer is registered, again?

[Sovaal]

What the danger of reducing criminal activity? Someone sounds guilty.

Oh, dang. He got you good, Sov.

We're all criminals if the criminals in power want us to be.

[Sovaal]

Because people totally don't build computers or cars at home.

Each vehicle has to pass road-worthiness tests. So yes, even home-built computers would have to be registered. Prism like software would monitor unregistered IPs, leading to investigations.

And you would track home built vehicles how?

And here in the US, vehicles only have to be inspected and registered if they go off private property.

[Grinning Dragon]

Each vehicle has to pass road-worthiness tests. So yes, even home-built computers would have to be registered. Prism like software would monitor unregistered IPs, leading to investigations.

And what's to stop people from hacking the system and saying their computer is registered, again?

Not like IP spoofing isn't a thing or anything, nope, no siree. Nothing to see here, move along, pick up that can slave citizen.

[The New California Republic]

Euslavia envisions a fantastical, flawless, and unhackable system that is capable of tracking millions of transactions across the United States and internationally every second in real time. Complete nonsense in other words. With the sheer volume of code required for such a system, the chances of bugs in the code increases dramatically. Someone would find an exploitable flaw in it within a day. “There is a crack in everything, that’s how the light gets in.”

Then, the state has the duty to maintain the best cyber security technology, with periodic updates to ensure that the same programmes don't become too familiar to criminals. Also, there could be a law passed where all private computers are installed with certain features that block hacking attempts from these platforms. Cyber security has too long been looked at as a private matter. As for databases and mining, America has already been working on the great Prism project. Such projects should be prioritised, further developed, and expanded into other realms, such as financial transactions.

You cannot redeem a ridiculous idea by compounding it with another ridiculous idea. An unhackable system is impossible.

[Euslavia]

Each vehicle has to pass road-worthiness tests. So yes, even home-built computers would have to be registered. Prism like software would monitor unregistered IPs, leading to investigations.

And what's to stop people from hacking the system and saying their computer is registered, again?

Well, I'm no computer scientist, but I'm certain that there methods of programming where hacking attempts trigger some sort of digital alarm signal. If so, then these alarms would be connected to a central database, where activation initiated police action. Plus, I mentioned annual software or hardware replacement. Ideally, the previous anti-hacking 'device' would not only be incompatible, but its very presence after the next registration period would generate an immediate alarm signal.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

But the tracking implications are similar. Nowadays, even with current controls in place, criminals are still able to purchase 'off-market' weapons through the use of cash. If you apply the same principle used in controlling bootlegging, you can do similarly with weapons control. Without untraceable cash, criminal operations would face several impediments. Of course, they will try to stay one step ahead, but that gives all the more reason for the state to stay two steps ahead.

What's to stop gangs using other forms of currency, such as that of foriegn countries, or gold, or Bitcoins and other deep digital currencies? And I also see no further need for a digital currency to be employed by the US gov. And what about personal transactions, where people just "gift" each other money?

I'd like to see you counter the first few sentences of this, please, instead of dancing around it.

[Euslavia]

Each vehicle has to pass road-worthiness tests. So yes, even home-built computers would have to be registered. Prism like software would monitor unregistered IPs, leading to investigations.

And you would track home built vehicles how?

And here in the US, vehicles only have to be inspected and registered if they go off private property.

Not deviate too far, but yes, I would. All vehicles captured by ubiquitous traffic cameras would be sent to a database and analysed against extant records. If no registration match, then trouble.

[Grinning Dragon]

And what's to stop people from hacking the system and saying their computer is registered, again?

Well, I'm no computer scientist, but I'm certain that there methods of programming where hacking attempts trigger some sort of digital alarm signal. If so, then these alarms would be connected to a central database, where activation initiated police action. Plus, I mentioned annual software or hardware replacement. Ideally, the previous anti-hacking 'device' would not only be incompatible, but its very presence after the next registration period would generate an immediate alarm signal.

Disconnect computer from network, hack system, render all alarms inert, reconnect computer to network, laugh, profit, win.

[The New California Republic]

And what's to stop people from hacking the system and saying their computer is registered, again?

Well, I'm no computer scientist, but I'm certain that there methods of programming where hacking attempts trigger some sort of digital alarm signal. If so, then these alarms would be connected to a central database, where activation initiated police action. Plus, I mentioned annual software or hardware replacement. Ideally, the previous anti-hacking 'device' would not only be incompatible, but its very presence after the next registration period would generate an immediate alarm signal.

Nope. Alarms can be bypassed. You underestimate the ingenuity of hackers.

[Sovaal]

What's to stop gangs using other forms of currency, such as that of foriegn countries, or gold, or Bitcoins and other deep digital currencies? And I also see no further need for a digital currency to be employed by the US gov. And what about personal transactions, where people just "gift" each other money?

I'd like to see you counter the first few sentences of this, please, instead of dancing around it.

Who, me or Euslavia?

If him I think he's already stated that he would be okay with the US making impossible treaties.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Then, the state has the duty to maintain the best cyber security technology, with periodic updates to ensure that the same programmes don't become too familiar to criminals. Also, there could be a law passed where all private computers are installed with certain features that block hacking attempts from these platforms. Cyber security has too long been looked at as a private matter. As for databases and mining, America has already been working on the great Prism project. Such projects should be prioritised, further developed, and expanded into other realms, such as financial transactions.

"The best cyber security technology". Mate, for every defense, there is a better offense. For every Great Wall, there is a Jebe. There are like 7 countries capable of waging effective cyber warfare. The PRC, Russia, and Iran are among those.

Also, what would you do about the possibility of foreign intervention?

[Sovaal]

And you would track home built vehicles how?

And here in the US, vehicles only have to be inspected and registered if they go off private property.

Not deviate too far, but yes, I would. All vehicles captured by ubiquitous traffic cameras would be sent to a database and analysed against extant records. If no registration match, then trouble.

Shit, meant to say computers.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

I'd like to see you counter the first few sentences of this, please, instead of dancing around it.

Who, me or Euslavia?

If him I think he's already stated that he would be okay with the US making impossible treaties.

The other chap. I mostly want him to answer as to why people wouldn't just use other currencies.