Gun Control

[Spirit of Hope]

I've never had much of an interest in them because I can simply make new machine guns, that's one of the perks that manufacturers of any size get. But if people wanna start talking about banning em I feel like we should put as many out there as possible.

Oh please do, I'm sure your GOP friendos will appreciate more black kids getting shot in Chicago, really buttresses their whole racial narrative. And who knows? Maybe the cartels will get their hands on some, and start murdering more people so we can get the DEA and the War on Drugs back in full swing, and thus, all shall prosper.

This is a stupid, spiteful, and shortsighted view.

I doubt black kids in Chicago are getting shot by rifles with bump stocks. In fact do you have a source that any have been killed with a rifle using a bump stock? What with homicide almost exclusively using handguns that they have acquired through the black/grey market. The cartels have the ability to sneak in literal tons of drugs, what makes you think they can't get their hands on illegal full auto weapons like what are used in Mexico? I honestly don't care if bump stocks go away, but at least think about why you are banning them.

[Neutraligon]

I am sorry but...what country are you talking about, because the US certainly has active terrorist organizations and cartels operating within its borders.

Okay internationally recognized ones.

You think organizations like ISIS and the such are not active here? Oh or what about those eco terrorists that where so well known before 9-11. And we do have cartels, or rather the mafia families still exist.

[Senkaku]

I mean, on average, we actually manage to have some two-a-days in the mix too

But if literally dozens or hundreds of casualties aren't somewhere high profile like a school or a major city center then no one cares too much bc it's so routine

I see a bunch of grey boxes with zero details provided?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... n-violence

I think Keshiland actually posted this too- what details would you like? I'm sure if you care to, we can both go through and find the documentation on every single one of these. I have homework and school, so it'd be a project, but we could probably call the reporters who wrote the story to ask about their sources and do our own research.

But of course, I'm guessing we won't do that, and instead I'll just get a mealy-mouthed response about how not enough people got shot in each of those for them to ALL count because really the way they're classified as "mass" doesn't fit your narrative "make sense", and really it should only be like 100 tops, or even less, and really most of them lived anyways and it's the price of liberty and not that big a deal.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Funny, he looks alot like Jerry Miculek....

Now, that would be a sight to see, Jerry wearing fairy wings while shooting like the machine he is.

.....

I need this in my life.

[Keshiland]

What about the other 2/3rds of American children who do not have gun-owning parents, who see a gun that looks the same as their nerf gun or water gun?

Where did they get the guns if their parents don't own them? Guns don't just get sold in toy stores, you know

just lying around

[Galloism]

I mean, on average, we actually manage to have some two-a-days in the mix too

But if literally dozens or hundreds of casualties aren't somewhere high profile like a school or a major city center then no one cares too much bc it's so routine

Four or more killed or injured in a single event is a mass shooting in that definition.

I'll bet most of those are gang violence scenarios with multiple perpetrators. Not exactly what people think of when they think "mass shooting".

[Senkaku]

Please calm down.

They're trying to ban an object which was created simply to skirt around laws banning other weapons on a technicality. I doubt the ban will mean anything anyway, since they sound like they can be made by anyone with any skill at all.

I'm plenty calm...

So? I mean, people skirt laws all the time. There are literally entire cities that are declaring themselves "sanctuary" and actively facilitating people who skirt laws.

I see someone doesn't know what a sanctuary city actually is! Not to fear, dear, it's a common misunderstanding- follow me over to the Trump MAGAthread and after I come back from dinner, I'll enlighten you!

[Albrenia]

Please calm down.

They're trying to ban an object which was created simply to skirt around laws banning other weapons on a technicality. I doubt the ban will mean anything anyway, since they sound like they can be made by anyone with any skill at all.

I'm plenty calm...

So? I mean, people skirt laws all the time. There are literally entire cities that are declaring themselves "sanctuary" and actively facilitating people who skirt laws.

I'm saying that it's hardly taking away liberty to merely close a loophole in an existing law. I mean Trump himself is trying to get rid of that particular technicality you mentioned.

[The Lone Alliance]

Why are people's 1st reaction never that its gunfire. Like every single time people think its fireworks or some other loud noise. My 1st reaction whenever I hear anything loud is that its gunfire until I see otherwise. I just don't get it.

That's because you've been brainwashed to believe the US is a non stop warzone with guns blazing constantly so that's what you'll assume.

[Stonok]

Where did they get the guns if their parents don't own them? Guns don't just get sold in toy stores, you know

just lying around

You're a good troll, friend.

[Paddy O Fernature]

I mean, on average, we actually manage to have some two-a-days in the mix too

But if literally dozens or hundreds of casualties aren't somewhere high profile like a school or a major city center then no one cares too much bc it's so routine

Four or more killed or injured in a single event is a mass shooting in that definition.

I'll bet most of those are gang violence scenarios with multiple perpetrators. Not exactly what people think of when they think "mass shooting".

I'm also fairly certain that the source (Gun Violence Archive) for that "research" has once already in the past been outed for using people getting "shot" with paintball/airsoft incidents in the data as well to inflate the results. Could be someone else though, as it's so damned hard to keep track of these things as the anti's tend to bounce the same sources off each other over and over, making it hard to keep track at times.

[The Two Jerseys]

Not if the person teaching them how to shoot has any idea what they're doing. Kids are not utterly retarded, they can be taught that some things are dangerous regardless of color. And kids aren't the only people who use pink guns, again, young women sometimes like to buy them to keep for self defense in their glove box or whatever. This is absurd. My parents taught me to point cap guns away from people...

What about the other 2/3rds of American children who do not have gun-owning parents, who see a gun that looks the same as their nerf gun or water gun?

Idiot who leaves loaded gun lying around is idiot.

[Keshiland]

just lying around

You're a good troll, friend.

They are often in parks or playgrounds thrown in by adults who want something to happen

[Grinning Dragon]

Where did they get the guns if their parents don't own them? Guns don't just get sold in toy stores, you know

just lying around

One time I caught my firearms lying around, and I yelled at them and said, they could atleast clean themselves instead of being lazy bums.

[Stonok]

You're a good troll, friend.

They are often in parks or playgrounds thrown in by adults who want something to happen

Not in any park or playground I've ever seen, and this hasn't been on the news that I know of.

[Paddy O Fernature]

You're a good troll, friend.

They are often in parks or playgrounds thrown in by adults who want something to happen

S-S-S-S-Source

[Washington Resistance Army]

You're a good troll, friend.

They are often in parks or playgrounds thrown in by adults who want something to happen

I too enjoy making up nonsensical scenarios.

[Neutraligon]

You're a good troll, friend.

They are often in parks or playgrounds thrown in by adults who want something to happen

The thing you sourced earlier said they are often found in playgrounds, they did not say why they are found there. So source for the reason why they are found in those locations.

[Keshiland]

They are often in parks or playgrounds thrown in by adults who want something to happen

S-S-S-S-Source

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/real-g ... t-22325745

[Telconi]

I'm plenty calm...

So? I mean, people skirt laws all the time. There are literally entire cities that are declaring themselves "sanctuary" and actively facilitating people who skirt laws.

I see someone doesn't know what a sanctuary city actually is! Not to fear, dear, it's a common misunderstanding- follow me over to the Trump MAGAthread and after I come back from dinner, I'll enlighten you!

I live in one, and spoke in support of the measure. Pretty sure I'm well aware of what exactly it entails.

I'm plenty calm...

So? I mean, people skirt laws all the time. There are literally entire cities that are declaring themselves "sanctuary" and actively facilitating people who skirt laws.

I'm saying that it's hardly taking away liberty to merely close a loophole in an existing law. I mean Trump himself is trying to get rid of that particular technicality you mentioned.

Would depend on if the original law is itself an affront to a person's liberty. Also, let's not sink to the level of using Donald Trump as the litmus test for respecting people's liberty.

[Paddy O Fernature]

S-S-S-S-Source

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/real-g ... t-22325745

They are often in parks or playgrounds thrown in by adults who want something to happen

The thing you sourced earlier said they are often found in playgrounds, they did not say why they are found there. So source for the reason why they are found in those locations.

[Neutraligon]

S-S-S-S-Source

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/real-g ... t-22325745

Like I said they did not say why they where found so source on that part. Also...I would like a better source then what was given here. How often are they found there for instance.

[Stonok]

S-S-S-S-Source

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/real-g ... t-22325745

Wait so someone conducted a "camera experiment" to give criminals new ideas for the sake of more gun control? Jesus H. Christ

[Neutraligon]

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/real-g ... t-22325745

Wait so someone conducted a "camera experiment" to give criminals new ideas for the sake of more gun control? Jesus H. Christ

There where issues with the experiment as well. Like for instance how the guns where displayed. In the first when the girls ran away they seem to have been revealed by a classmate or hidden in a knapsack,not just lying around. Oh and the type of gun was different.

[Grinning Dragon]

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/real-g ... t-22325745

Wait so someone conducted a "camera experiment" to give criminals new ideas for the sake of more gun control? Jesus H. Christ

Hmm, reading that makes me think of this scenario