Gun Control

[Telconi]

They try to blame the NRA or the Republican party, if anyone has blood on their hands it's those bastards sitting on the floor of the Senate throwing temper tantrums because thy can't take my rights.

As much as I agree with the rest of your post, this seems a bit like bullhockey to me. If the overreachers are to blame, then so too are the overly clingy. Both are pulling too hard in opposite directions.

It was purposefully 'bullhockey' the point was sarcastically to point out the antithesis of your point, if they blame the people who proposed a mild bill, how are they who opted for nothing because the bill was too mild not also to blame?

[Albrenia]

It Is Not A Human Right If Only One Country Makes It A Right!

Not true.
That just means one country has recognized the human right and has taken action to protect it.

As much as I hate to agree with bolded screaming, in this one case he has a point. You guys obviously don't consider it a 'human right', but instead a 'constitutional right'. Otherwise you'd be complaining about Australian human rights violations from our gun laws.

[Albrenia]

As much as I agree with the rest of your post, this seems a bit like bullhockey to me. If the overreachers are to blame, then so too are the overly clingy. Both are pulling too hard in opposite directions.

It was purposefully 'bullhockey' the point was sarcastically to point out the antithesis of your point, if they blame the people who proposed a mild bill, how are they who opted for nothing because the bill was too mild not also to blame?

...ok I probably just derped and missed your point then.

So I guess we fully agree on that heh.

[Valgora]

Not true.
That just means one country has recognized the human right and has taken action to protect it.

As much as I hate to agree with bolded screaming, in this one case he has a point. You guys obviously don't consider it a 'human right', but instead a 'constitutional right'. Otherwise you'd be complaining about Australian human rights violations from our gun laws.

We consider it a human right and a constitutional right.
Or a human right that is protected by the constitution.

[Republic of Keshiland]

They won because they campaigned on real issues that effect real people and were average people not just white collar people in a suit

Do you even read your own posts? Gillespie lost because he tied himself to Trump's policies in a state that overwhelmingly does not agree with Trump.

No america decided to elect this

Instead of this

I would rather the leaders look like my neighbourhood than a corporate office team.

[Republic of Keshiland]

As much as I hate to agree with bolded screaming, in this one case he has a point. You guys obviously don't consider it a 'human right', but instead a 'constitutional right'. Otherwise you'd be complaining about Australian human rights violations from our gun laws.

We consider it a human right and a constitutional right.
Or a human right that is protected by the constitution.

But not healthcare right

[Len Hyet]

Do you even read your own posts? Gillespie lost because he tied himself to Trump's policies in a state that overwhelmingly does not agree with Trump.

No america decided to elect this

Instead of this

I would rather the leaders look like my neighbourhood than a corporate office team.

1. imgspam pls
2. Which refutes my point... how?

[Topoliani]

Do you even read your own posts? Gillespie lost because he tied himself to Trump's policies in a state that overwhelmingly does not agree with Trump.

No america decided to elect this

Instead of this


I would rather the leaders look like my neighbourhood than a corporate office team.

Oh, so you want a poor hobo to be leader?

Oh wait, that's my neighborhood and not your mid-class one

[Valgora]

We consider it a human right and a constitutional right.
Or a human right that is protected by the constitution.

But not healthcare right

I consider that a right too.

[Sovaal]

We consider it a human right and a constitutional right.
Or a human right that is protected by the constitution.

But not healthcare right

Stop strawmanning him. He never even mentioned healthcare, nor is it related to gun control.

[Washington Resistance Army]

But not healthcare right

I consider that a right too.

It's almost like they're not mutually exclusive.

[Sovaal]

Do you even read your own posts? Gillespie lost because he tied himself to Trump's policies in a state that overwhelmingly does not agree with Trump.

No america decided to elect this

Instead of this

I would rather the leaders look like my neighbourhood than a corporate office team.

I'd rather the people running the country not look like the people living next to me.

[Sovaal]

I consider that a right too.

It's almost like they're not mutually exclusive.

I mean Keshi has been acting like we're one big bloc since day one.

[Thermodolia]

Yes. It takes me less than a second to change external magazines. I could have had a pile of 26 five round magazines and it wouldn't have made a difference

Oh give me a break.

There is a reason why light machine guns used by soldiers all over the world use drum mags and belts and not 5 round mags. There is a reason why assault rifles use 30 rounds mags and not 5 round mags.

I suppose you're going to tell me a 2 round mag wouldn't make a difference either? A breech loading gun? A flintlock? Throwing rocks?

Dude, I'm former military, we where required to carry at least three fully loaded magazines for each weapon we carried. So no limitations on the amount of rounds that a magazine can hold will do anything

[Valgora]

It's almost like they're not mutually exclusive.

I mean Keshi has been acting like we're one big bloc since day one.

"I though only conservatives supported gun rights."
- Keshi, 2017

[Thermodolia]

Oh give me a break.

There is a reason why light machine guns used by soldiers all over the world use drum mags and belts and not 5 round mags. There is a reason why assault rifles use 30 rounds mags and not 5 round mags.

I suppose you're going to tell me a 2 round mag wouldn't make a difference either? A breech loading gun? A flintlock? Throwing rocks?

Give him a break Therm, his ignorance is clearly more valuable than the real world experience of people who do this stuff daily.

No kidding. It's not like I was ever in the military nope that never happened

[Telconi]

Not true.
That just means one country has recognized the human right and has taken action to protect it.

As much as I hate to agree with bolded screaming, in this one case he has a point. You guys obviously don't consider it a 'human right', but instead a 'constitutional right'. Otherwise you'd be complaining about Australian human rights violations from our gun laws.

Which I do on a regular basis. I support a nuclear DPRK because depriving anyone of adequate weaponry is a human rights violation IMO.

[Albrenia]

As much as I hate to agree with bolded screaming, in this one case he has a point. You guys obviously don't consider it a 'human right', but instead a 'constitutional right'. Otherwise you'd be complaining about Australian human rights violations from our gun laws.

Which I do on a regular basis. I support a nuclear DPRK because depriving anyone of adequate weaponry is a human rights violation IMO.

Seems consistent. Rather counterproductive and dangerous, but consistent.

[Thermodolia]

The same gun > lives that always happens. Atleast this time. When republicans said to Virginians the democrats are going to take your guns the Democrats said damn right and won.

That isn't why they won lol.

The Dems won Virginia because Gilispie was an amazingly bad candidate.

Seriously a red trash can would have done better than him

[Tule]

Oh give me a break.

There is a reason why light machine guns used by soldiers all over the world use drum mags and belts and not 5 round mags. There is a reason why assault rifles use 30 rounds mags and not 5 round mags.

I suppose you're going to tell me a 2 round mag wouldn't make a difference either? A breech loading gun? A flintlock? Throwing rocks?

Dude, I'm former military, we where required to carry at least three fully loaded magazines for each weapon we carried. So no limitations on the amount of rounds that a magazine can hold will do anything

How about zero?

Would you feel comfortable going into battle with a Trapdoor Springfield in this day and age?

[Telconi]

Which I do on a regular basis. I support a nuclear DPRK because depriving anyone of adequate weaponry is a human rights violation IMO.

Seems consistent. Rather counterproductive and dangerous, but consistent.

Perhaps, but I don't think it's OK for some people to be helpless against unfair oppression. Same way I don't feel it's OK for nations either. I supported an nuclear Iran, and still do as well.

[Thermodolia]

I'll take "gun > lives" over the stupid "feelings > human rights" garbage you're trying to feed me. Thank you very much.

It Is Not A Human Right If Only One Country Makes It A Right!

Then all those other nations are in the wrong

[Telconi]

Dude, I'm former military, we where required to carry at least three fully loaded magazines for each weapon we carried. So no limitations on the amount of rounds that a magazine can hold will do anything

How about zero?

Would you feel comfortable going into battle with a Trapdoor Springfield in this day and age?

Now you're changing the entire rifle. Moving goalposts ain't fair.

[Thermodolia]

Do you even read your own posts? Gillespie lost because he tied himself to Trump's policies in a state that overwhelmingly does not agree with Trump.

No america decided to elect this

Instead of this

I would rather the leaders look like my neighbourhood than a corporate office team.

Oh look IdPol. I don't give a shit what my representatives look like all I care about is if they protect my rights.

[Thermodolia]

Dude, I'm former military, we where required to carry at least three fully loaded magazines for each weapon we carried. So no limitations on the amount of rounds that a magazine can hold will do anything

How about zero?

Would you feel comfortable going into battle with a Trapdoor Springfield in this day and age?

I'm not going to answer such a stupid question