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Am I right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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22%
Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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7%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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20%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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44%
JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.


I find it amusing that most of your suggestions end in people rising up.

All while suggesting his government would be totally spared from any uprisings by the oppressed.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:10 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The 12th fixed the problems with the EC I want those problems back so we can get stuck in endless ties and then force the government to remove the EC to function. If you can't beat it working you have to break it.

So you want to break something in order for it to be broken so that you have to fix it? What???


No I want to break it so that the government will have to remove it and give us direct election for president.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:11 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:So you want to break something in order for it to be broken so that you have to fix it? What???


No I want to break it so that the government will have to remove it and give us direct election for president.

All while not allowing Republicans to vote *nods*.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:13 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
No I want to break it so that the government will have to remove it and give us direct election for president.

All while not allowing Republicans to vote *nods*.


There would never be another republican in the white house ever again since there are 5 times more democrats then republicans 51% D 47% I 11% R
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:14 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:All while not allowing Republicans to vote *nods*.


There would never be another republican in the white house ever again since there are 5 times more democrats then republicans 51% D 47% I 11% R


Those numbers aren't even remotely real lol
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:14 pm

Topoliani wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Rise up with what?

Sticks?

Rolled-up newspapers?

Because you won't let them have guns anymore...

With Magic obviously, after all, the rest of his world is as much of a fantasy as that so might as well.

How Keshi thinks the revolt will go.

How the revolt will actually go.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:15 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:All while not allowing Republicans to vote *nods*.


There would never be another republican in the white house ever again since there are 5 times more democrats then republicans 51% D 47% I 11% R

Source.

And true I guess when you take away the vote from undesirables...
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:15 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
There would never be another republican in the white house ever again since there are 5 times more democrats then republicans 51% D 47% I 11% R


Those numbers aren't even remotely real lol

Isn't it split roughly thirds Dem, third Rep, and third Indep?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:16 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Those numbers aren't even remotely real lol

Isn't it split roughly thirds Dem, third Rep, and third Indep?


More or less yeah.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:18 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Those numbers aren't even remotely real lol

Isn't it split roughly thirds Dem, third Rep, and third Indep?


Yes sorry I saw the poll that I quoted from somewhere. I don't know what that was for lol.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:19 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Isn't it split roughly thirds Dem, third Rep, and third Indep?


Yes sorry I saw the poll that I quoted from somewhere. I don't know what that was for lol.

Jesus wept...
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:20 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Topoliani wrote:With Magic obviously, after all, the rest of his world is as much of a fantasy as that so might as well.

How Keshi thinks the revolt will go.

Nah man, He would never support the slave patrols. :p
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:21 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Isn't it split roughly thirds Dem, third Rep, and third Indep?


Yes sorry I saw the poll that I quoted from somewhere. I don't know what that was for lol.

I doubt that you actually care about the numbers.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:22 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Yes sorry I saw the poll that I quoted from somewhere. I don't know what that was for lol.

I doubt that you actually care about the numbers.


All I know that the last 4 presidents would have been democrats if not for the EC. 42,43,44,45
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:24 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I doubt that you actually care about the numbers.


All I know that the last 4 presidents would have been democrats if not for the EC. 42,43,44,45

Doesn't mean that Republicans would never win the popular vote, because they have before, numerous times. I Like Ike and all that.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:24 pm

Sovaal wrote:

Nah man, He would never support the slave patrols. :p

Because of all Keshiland's contradictory "policies", I don't think he would have the support of anyone. The police wouldn't like him, the military wouldn't like him, the Supreme Court wouldn't like him, Congress wouldn't like him, Democrats wouldn't like him, Republicans wouldn't like him, and the majority of Americans wouldn't like him. Just where does he expect to get all of his support from?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:30 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Nah man, He would never support the slave patrols. :p

Because of all Keshiland's contradictory "policies", I don't think he would have the support of anyone. The police wouldn't like him, the military wouldn't like him, the Supreme Court wouldn't like him, Congress wouldn't like him, Democrats wouldn't like him, Republicans wouldn't like him, and the majority of Americans wouldn't like him. Just where does he expect to get all of his support from?

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Postby Telconi » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:35 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Let's not forget that he wants to get rid of the 3rd and 12th.


I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.



So, let's hear them!
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:37 pm

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.



So, let's hear them!


Those were the reasons. Do you like the Electoral college? If no then you should support the 12A repeal so that we can break the system and force it to be removed to stop government deadlock.
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Postby Wysten » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:38 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Topoliani wrote:With Magic obviously, after all, the rest of his world is as much of a fantasy as that so might as well.

How Keshi thinks the revolt will go.

How the revolt will actually go.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:38 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:

So, let's hear them!


Those were the reasons. Do you like the Electoral college? If no then you should support the 12A repeal so that we can break the system and force it to be removed to stop government deadlock.


Those weren't good reasons though. That would be like me telling you I have two very nice cars for sale, and then showing you a half rotten turnip and a handful of someone's hair clippings off the barbershop floor.
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-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Wysten » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:40 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:

So, let's hear them!


Those were the reasons. Do you like the Electoral college? If no then you should support the 12A repeal so that we can break the system and force it to be removed to stop government deadlock.

You see you are like a feminist/evangelical Christian they bait you in with stuff like "Do you like equality well of course you are a feminist." Besides I think I can safely assume that you want to get rid of the EC for your own gain not the progressing of the republic as a whole.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:41 pm

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Those were the reasons. Do you like the Electoral college? If no then you should support the 12A repeal so that we can break the system and force it to be removed to stop government deadlock.


Those weren't good reasons though. That would be like me telling you I have two very nice cars for sale, and then showing you a half rotten turnip and a handful of someone's hair clippings off the barbershop floor.

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:43 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:you should support the 12A repeal so that we can break the system and force it to be removed to stop government deadlock.

Or you could not try doing something that you will never achieve, and do something that is more realistic that does make a practical difference, such as volunteer work. I can tell you from personal experience that volunteer work gives you a real sense of achievement and sense of place in the world, unlike chasing a dream that will never come to fruition.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:44 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:

So, let's hear them!


Those were the reasons. Do you like the Electoral college? If no then you should support the 12A repeal so that we can break the system and force it to be removed to stop government deadlock.


Also, I like government deadlock.
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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