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Am I right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:33 pm

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Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Well, how much of that "sum of all human information" do we actually bother to read in a day while studying at school?

Teachers still require you to print everything, right?

No... I can email or turn in a USB drive for plenty of my assignments.

Just as a note, as an aboose of electronic-text, I edit previous submissions into oblivion.
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Postby Len Hyet » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:36 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:The 2A was written for muskets nuff said

It was also written for privately owned Ships-of-the-line that mounted over 100 cannon and could level cities.

Where is my city killing ship Keshi
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Postby Telconi » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:42 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:The 2A was written for muskets nuff said

It was also written for privately owned Ships-of-the-line that mounted over 100 cannon and could level cities.

Where is my city killing ship Keshi


This I find hilarious.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:43 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:The 2A was written for muskets nuff said

It was also written for privately owned Ships-of-the-line that mounted over 100 cannon and could level cities.

Where is my city killing ship Keshi

Here you go.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:09 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:The 2A was written for muskets nuff said

Like you care about the Constitution. You literally said you supported getting rid of practically every amendment that means a damn save the 1st, and even then you said you want that right taken away from Republicans/people you don't like.

E: and as said, it was also written during a time where privately owned warships and cannons where common.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:11 pm

Galloism wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:It was also written for privately owned Ships-of-the-line that mounted over 100 cannon and could level cities.

Where is my city killing ship Keshi

Here you go.

I would like to take out a small loan of several billion dollars...
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:16 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:The 2A was written for muskets nuff said

Like you care about the Constitution. You literally said you supported getting rid of practically every amendment that means a damn save the 1st, and even then you said you want that right taken away from Republicans/people you don't like.

Exactly. Including the 4th amendment, the 5th amendment, the 21st etc. The argument about reinstating prohibition was particularly noteworthy...
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:54 pm

Oh yes, let's send all the gun owners to live in an autonomous state in Alaska!

It's not like they're going to use their autonomous powers to equip an army to retake the other 49 states...
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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:56 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:Oh yes, let's send all the gun owners to live in an autonomous state in Alaska!

It's not like they're going to use their autonomous powers to equip an army to retake the other 49 states...

In a place with massive quantities of oil, to remind everyone.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:58 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Oh yes, let's send all the gun owners to live in an autonomous state in Alaska!

It's not like they're going to use their autonomous powers to equip an army to retake the other 49 states...

In a place with massive quantities of oil, to remind everyone.

Exactly.

I'm sure China would be willing to do business.
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Postby Ors Might » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:12 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Galloism wrote:In a place with massive quantities of oil, to remind everyone.

Exactly.

I'm sure China would be willing to do business.

Excellent, so Keshi’s ideas will bring about a new age of pro-second amendment laws and improved U.S-Chinese relations. What a strange mix up of beliefs to bring about that outcome.
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Postby Valgora » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:44 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Like you care about the Constitution. You literally said you supported getting rid of practically every amendment that means a damn save the 1st, and even then you said you want that right taken away from Republicans/people you don't like.

Exactly. Including the 4th amendment, the 5th amendment, the 21st etc. The argument about reinstating prohibition was particularly noteworthy...


Let's not forget that he wants to get rid of the 3rd and 12th.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:03 pm

Valgora wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. Including the 4th amendment, the 5th amendment, the 21st etc. The argument about reinstating prohibition was particularly noteworthy...


Let's not forget that he wants to get rid of the 3rd and 12th.


I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:04 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Let's not forget that he wants to get rid of the 3rd and 12th.


I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.


I find it amusing that most of your suggestions end in people rising up.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:04 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Let's not forget that he wants to get rid of the 3rd and 12th.


I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.


Sovaal wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:The 2A was written for muskets nuff said

Like you care about the Constitution. You literally said you supported getting rid of practically every amendment that means a damn save the 1st, and even then you said you want that right taken away from Republicans/people you don't like.

E: and as said, it was also written during a time where privately owned warships and cannons where common.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Topoliani » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:05 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Let's not forget that he wants to get rid of the 3rd and 12th.


I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.

1. You never have good reasons
2. 3rd is still in use, I used it today even. And even if it is "Useless" that doesn't mean we should get rid of it. I mean, what is it harming?
3. I think America would sooner revolt against you than the 12th
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Postby Dylar » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:05 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:Oh yes, let's send all the gun owners to live in an autonomous state in Alaska!

It's not like they're going to use their autonomous powers to equip an army to retake the other 49 states...

I'd say it's more of a job for Kentucky
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:06 pm

Dylar wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Oh yes, let's send all the gun owners to live in an autonomous state in Alaska!

It's not like they're going to use their autonomous powers to equip an army to retake the other 49 states...

I'd say it's more of a job for Kentucky

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Topoliani » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:06 pm

Dylar wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Oh yes, let's send all the gun owners to live in an autonomous state in Alaska!

It's not like they're going to use their autonomous powers to equip an army to retake the other 49 states...

I'd say it's more of a job for Kentucky

Nice meme
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.


I find it amusing that most of your suggestions end in people rising up.


The 12th fixed the problems with the EC I want those problems back so we can get stuck in endless ties and then force the government to remove the EC to function. If you can't beat it working you have to break it.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:07 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Let's not forget that he wants to get rid of the 3rd and 12th.


I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.

Wouldn't happen. And anyway, usually your suggestions would provoke people to rise up against you...
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:07 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Let's not forget that he wants to get rid of the 3rd and 12th.


I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful

I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.

Rise up with what?

Sticks?

Rolled-up newspapers?

Because you won't let them have guns anymore...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:07 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I find it amusing that most of your suggestions end in people rising up.


The 12th fixed the problems with the EC I want those problems back so we can get stuck in endless ties and then force the government to remove the EC to function. If you can't beat it working you have to break it.


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Postby Topoliani » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:08 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
I have very good reasons for both? Whats the point of an amendment that is no longer useful

I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
and if we remove the 12th I guarantee that the EC would implode and Americans would rise up to see it removed.

Rise up with what?

Sticks?

Rolled-up newspapers?

Because you won't let them have guns anymore...

With Magic obviously, after all, the rest of his world is as much of a fantasy as that so might as well.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:09 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I find it amusing that most of your suggestions end in people rising up.


The 12th fixed the problems with the EC I want those problems back so we can get stuck in endless ties and then force the government to remove the EC to function. If you can't beat it working you have to break it.

So you want to break something in order for it to be broken so that you have to fix it? What???
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