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Am I right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby Wysten » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:36 am

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Wysten wrote:Honestly Keshi congratulations you have single handly got both socialist and conservatives to get together and fight you :clap:

I remember hearing about this guy who had similar ideas to Keshi and managed to get both capitalists and communists to join forces against him, something starting with an H...

Halter? Hatter? Hilter?

It was the mad Hatter I knew it.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:40 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:I remember hearing about this guy who had similar ideas to Keshi and managed to get both capitalists and communists to join forces against him, something starting with an H...

Halter? Hatter? Hilter?


Hoxha.

Ironically, Hoxha wanted the people to be armed so that they could form partisan forces in event of war.
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Postby Ors Might » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:42 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Wysten wrote:Honestly Keshi congratulations you have single handly got both socialist and conservatives to get together and fight you :clap:


I'm just to real about issues for people to handle so its completely fine with me :)

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:43 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hoxha.

Ironically, Hoxha wanted the people to be armed so that they could form partisan forces in event of war.


We need more people like him. Bunkers 2020.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:00 am

The Republicans say THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS and gun owners vote for them. Hell they could say we are going to make speeding a capital offense and gun owners would vote for them to keep there guns
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:00 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:The Republicans say THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS and gun owners vote for them. Hell they could say we are going to make speeding a capital offense and gun owners would vote for them to keep there guns


Only one of the parties has a gun ban written into their platform.

It's not the GOP
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Postby Topoliani » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:00 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:The Republicans say THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS and gun owners vote for them. Hell they could say we are going to make speeding a capital offense and gun owners would vote for them to keep there guns

Well, we can agree on ONE thing

The masses are to easily swayed.

Still a strawman though
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Postby Wysten » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:03 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:The Republicans say THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS and gun owners vote for them. Hell they could say we are going to make speeding a capital offense and gun owners would vote for them to keep there guns

Obvious over generalization is obvious.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:04 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:The Republicans say THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS and gun owners vote for them. Hell they could say we are going to make speeding a capital offense and gun owners would vote for them to keep there guns


Only one of the parties has a gun ban written into their platform.

It's not the GOP


Guns over everything?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:05 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Only one of the parties has a gun ban written into their platform.

It's not the GOP


Guns over everything?


I said no such thing, I was just pointing out that you were once again wrong.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:05 am

Kesh, care to address the legitimate uses of guns?

Recreation.

Hunting

Self defense.

Home and property defense.
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Postby Topoliani » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:06 am

Big Jim P wrote:Kesh, care to address the legitimate uses of guns?

Recreation.

Hunting

Self defense.

Home and property defense.

(Hi, Topoliani here, just gonna add these)

End of the World defense

Invasion of your country

Rebelling against a corrupt government

FTFY
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:09 am

Big Jim P wrote:Kesh, care to address the legitimate uses of guns?

Recreation.

Hunting

Self defense.

Home and property defense.


Okay, none of this should make guns a constitutional right. It's not in Canada and I have felt safer every day here then any day in America. Guns don't make societies good
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:10 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Ors Might wrote:In all honesty, Keshi seems to have taken the worst aspects right authoritarianism and leftist authoritarianism and stripped them of whatever pretense to integrity the two of them had, all to make a strange ideology that alienates everyone in both sides of the left-right spectrum.


I support all the social programs that other countries give to their people thus I am left wing. I support gun bans there for I am left wing, I am against the drug war there for I am left wing. I support keeping people healthy and safe by banning alcohol and tabacco thus I am left wing. The only right wing think I support is pro life. Also I am against war and the death penalty also left wing.

Ha. No. Your understanding of what constitutes "left wing" is laughable.
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Postby Topoliani » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:10 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:Kesh, care to address the legitimate uses of guns?

Recreation.

Hunting

Self defense.

Home and property defense.


Okay, none of this should make guns a constitutional right. It's not in Canada and I have felt safer every day here then any day in America. Guns don't make societies good

Except for the fact Canada didn't ban civilian guns?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:10 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:Kesh, care to address the legitimate uses of guns?

Recreation.

Hunting

Self defense.

Home and property defense.


Okay, none of this should make guns a constitutional right. It's not in Canada and I have felt safer every day here then any day in America. Guns don't make societies good


Goochland is plenty safe.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:12 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Only one of the parties has a gun ban written into their platform.

It's not the GOP


Guns over everything?

Keshiland, you cannot just read a statement by another person, and then attach whatever non-applicable statement to it. If that is your "method" of debate, then you clearly feel the need to grasp at straws...
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:20 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:Kesh, care to address the legitimate uses of guns?

Recreation.

Hunting

Self defense.

Home and property defense.


Okay, none of this should make guns a constitutional right. It's not in Canada and I have felt safer every day here then any day in America. Guns don't make societies good


Feeding oneself, defending oneself and ones family, home and property make them a basic human right. The Constitution just recognizes this fact.

Recreational use is a side benefit.

Speaking of benefits, the benefits of gun ownership far outweigh the cost.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:20 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:Kesh, care to address the legitimate uses of guns?

Recreation.

Hunting

Self defense.

Home and property defense.


Okay, none of this should make guns a constitutional right. It's not in Canada and I have felt safer every day here then any day in America. Guns don't make societies good

I could buy Chinese-made assault rifles in Canada that I couldn't get here.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:22 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:Kesh, care to address the legitimate uses of guns?

Recreation.

Hunting

Self defense.

Home and property defense.


Okay, none of this should make guns a constitutional right. It's not in Canada and I have felt safer every day here then any day in America. Guns don't make societies good

Canada?

You mean the place where House of Commons sergeants-at-arms have to 360 no-scope gunmen who just walk into Centre Block?
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:26 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Okay, none of this should make guns a constitutional right. It's not in Canada and I have felt safer every day here then any day in America. Guns don't make societies good

Canada?

You mean the place where House of Commons sergeants-at-arms have to 360 no-scope gunmen who just walk into Centre Block?

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:31 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Okay, none of this should make guns a constitutional right. It's not in Canada and I have felt safer every day here then any day in America. Guns don't make societies good

Canada?

You mean the place where House of Commons sergeants-at-arms have to 360 no-scope gunmen who just walk into Centre Block?


I was able to walk around Toronto worry free at midnight that's what a safe country feels like
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Postby Wysten » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:32 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Canada?

You mean the place where House of Commons sergeants-at-arms have to 360 no-scope gunmen who just walk into Centre Block?


I was able to walk around Toronto worry free at midnight that's what a safe country feels like

I'm am able to also walk around at midnight and I live in the US
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Postby Dylar » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:33 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Canada?

You mean the place where House of Commons sergeants-at-arms have to 360 no-scope gunmen who just walk into Centre Block?


I was able to walk around Toronto worry free at midnight that's what a safe country feels like

I was able to walk in downtown Chicago worry-free even though I already knew there was a gun problem there. Your point?

Let's also mention that at the time I had $70 in my wallet, and I was travelling with a group of high schoolers from a Catholic high school. Which, if you must know, is a shit-ton more expensive than public school.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:34 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Canada?

You mean the place where House of Commons sergeants-at-arms have to 360 no-scope gunmen who just walk into Centre Block?


I was able to walk around Toronto worry free at midnight that's what a safe country feels like

Entirely irrelevant, you can do that in a lot of places in the United States as well.
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Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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