Gun Control

[Thermodolia]

You know I can make up a fake group as well and say it's real by saying they don't post online at all. You know your ploy to sound smarter would work if the only google search didn't come back to your post and nothing else.

Is Google the only search engine? Is English the only possible language to search in? Again, I’m only something of a mouthpiece for my friend, who categorically refuses to use the internet for political purposes.

I think your friend is high on drugs dude

[Wysten]

You know I can make up a fake group as well and say it's real by saying they don't post online at all. You know your ploy to sound smarter would work if the only google search didn't come back to your post and nothing else.

Is Google the only search engine? Is English the only possible language to search in? Again, I’m only something of a mouthpiece for my friend, who categorically refuses to use the internet for political purposes.

Alright show us a picture of their books that you must own.

[Thermodolia]

Is Google the only search engine? Is English the only possible language to search in? Again, I’m only something of a mouthpiece for my friend, who categorically refuses to use the internet for political purposes.

Alright show us a picture of their books that you must own.

It doesn't even exist in the Russian Wikipedia page. It's literally horseshit

[Euslavia]

I’m only something of a mouthpiece for my friend, who categorically refuses to use the internet for political purposes.

Well then there's no real point in engaging with you is there?

Formulate your own opinions based on research and evidence, don’t just parrot the ones your friend gives you.

I don’t parrot because I have no ideas of my own. I think through and seem to find much of value in Vysovnik ideas.

[Thermodolia]

Well then there's no real point in engaging with you is there?

Formulate your own opinions based on research and evidence, don’t just parrot the ones your friend gives you.

I don’t parrot because I have no ideas of my own. I think through and seem to find much of value in Vysovnik ideas.

Vysonnik or whatever the fuck it is, doesn't exist. It's nowhere to be found on the Russian wiki page or anywhere else

[Hammer Britannia]

I don’t parrot because I have no ideas of my own. I think through and seem to find much of value in Vysovnik ideas.

Vysonnik or whatever the fuck it is, doesn't exist. It's nowhere to be found on the Russian wiki page or anywhere else

Vysovnik isn't even a Slavic word ffs

It isn't Serbian, Polish, Russian, Croatian, Slovak, Sloven, it isn't even Batlic or Romanian

[Chernoslavia]

You know I can make up a fake group as well and say it's real by saying they don't post online at all. You know your ploy to sound smarter would work if the only google search didn't come back to your post and nothing else.

Is Google the only search engine? Is English the only possible language to search in? Again, I’m only something of a mouthpiece for my friend, who categorically refuses to use the internet for political purposes.

Has your friend suffered a major concussion by any chance?

[Thermodolia]

Vysonnik or whatever the fuck it is, doesn't exist. It's nowhere to be found on the Russian wiki page or anywhere else

Vysovnik isn't even a Slavic word ffs

Well that explains why I couldn't even find it

[Paddy O Fernature]

Well then there's no real point in engaging with you is there?

Formulate your own opinions based on research and evidence, don’t just parrot the ones your friend gives you.

I don’t parrot because I have no ideas of my own. I think through and seem to find much of value in Vysovnik ideas.

I too, once belonged to a super secret organization.. complete with a hidden hideout, a secret agenda, and a manifesto laid out on plain paper for our members to see.

Then I turned 8, did away with my imaginary friend and the behind the couch fort, and moved on with my life.

You should join me.

[Digital Planets]

I don’t parrot because I have no ideas of my own. I think through and seem to find much of value in Vysovnik ideas.

I too, once belonged to a super secret organization.. complete with a hidden hideout, a secret agenda, and a manifesto laid out on plain paper for our members to see.

Then I turned 8, did away with my imaginary friend and the behind the couch fort, and moved on with my life.

You should join me.

No, you should join me. Sexually identify as a gun like myself, so the gun activists can't try and control you.

[Hammer Britannia]

Vysovnik isn't even a Slavic word ffs

Well that explains why I couldn't even find it

The closest word to it is vysokiy or высокий, which literally means high.

[Paddy O Fernature]

I too, once belonged to a super secret organization.. complete with a hidden hideout, a secret agenda, and a manifesto laid out on plain paper for our members to see.

Then I turned 8, did away with my imaginary friend and the behind the couch fort, and moved on with my life.

You should join me.

No, you should join me. Sexually identify as a gun like myself, so the gun activists can't try and control you.

Already self identify as Ammosexual.

[Valgora]

Well that explains why I couldn't even find it

The closest word to it is vysokiy or высокий, which literally means high.

That explains it.

[Chernoslavia]

Well that explains why I couldn't even find it

The closest word to it is vysokiy or высокий, which literally means high.

He misspelled it. I’ve just realized that....

[Hammer Britannia]

The closest word to it is vysokiy or высокий, which literally means high.

That explains it.

When he says "High," I think he means "I am bigger than you" or "Our nation shall soar high" not "420 Blaze it mon"

[Paddy O Fernature]

That explains it.

When he says "High," I think he means "I am bigger than you" or "Our nation shall soar high" not "420 Blaze it mon"

But what if he did?

[Hammer Britannia]

When he says "High," I think he means "I am bigger than you" or "Our nation shall soar high" not "420 Blaze it mon"

But what if he did?

Gówno, never thought of that.

[Euslavia]

Vysonnik or whatever the fuck it is, doesn't exist. It's nowhere to be found on the Russian wiki page or anywhere else

Vysovnik isn't even a Slavic word ffs

It isn't Serbian, Polish, Russian, Croatian, Slovak, Sloven, it isn't even Batlic or Romanian

Just like Bolshevik (большевик) wasn't really a word until Lenin's faction of the RSDLP adopted a noun form of bol'shinstvo (большинство) meaning 'majority' or greater part. Vysovnik is simply the noun form of 'vysokiy' (высокий) meaning 'great, high, elevated.' The Vysovniks that I know are a 'society' of university students disaffected with the current National Bolshevik movement, especially with the ideological syncretism of the Limonov faction, hence their rejection of the left-right paradigm.

[Hammer Britannia]

Vysovnik isn't even a Slavic word ffs

It isn't Serbian, Polish, Russian, Croatian, Slovak, Sloven, it isn't even Batlic or Romanian

Just like Bolshevik (большевик) wasn't really a word until Lenin's faction of the RSDLP adopted a noun form of bol'shinstvo (большинство) meaning 'majority' or greater part. Vysovnik is simply the noun form of 'vysokiy' (высокий) meaning 'great, high, elevated.' The Vysovniks that I know are a 'society' of university students disaffected with the current National Bolshevik movement, especially with the ideological syncretism of the Limonov faction, hence their rejection of the left-right paradigm.

So you admit that this is a made up word by a bunch of random college students. Well, I mean, it could have been a word made up by you to describe a made up Ideology.

[Sovaal]

What about completely banning civilian ownership of any firearms altogether? The only persons permitted to carry firearms would be active duty military and police forces. If you’re not on active duty in the police or the military, you will arrested simply for possession of a firearm. All civilian firearms would be confiscated. Those that don’t comply face arrest. Sure, such plans go against all American ideas (2nd Amendment), but these plans are the only solution that works. Rights should not stand in the way of goals (ends>means).

There's a reason no plan even close to this has been proposed in the US, as many of us have explained in the thread already.

And no, it would not work, and hasn't been done in any other western country to show it works.

[Euslavia]

Just like Bolshevik (большевик) wasn't really a word until Lenin's faction of the RSDLP adopted a noun form of bol'shinstvo (большинство) meaning 'majority' or greater part. Vysovnik is simply the noun form of 'vysokiy' (высокий) meaning 'great, high, elevated.' The Vysovniks that I know are a 'society' of university students disaffected with the current National Bolshevik movement, especially with the ideological syncretism of the Limonov faction, hence their rejection of the left-right paradigm.

So you admit that this is a made up word by a bunch of random college students. Well, I mean, it could have been a word made up by you to describe a made up Ideology.

Many political words, like bol'shevik, are 'made up.' Moreover, the need arose for a political shorthand to describe the principles of vertical collectivism, which is too long a phrase for expedited discourse and eventual promotion. Moreover, this society has its ideology, its inspirations, and other attributes of a coherent political movement. Many political movements in history started in the student societies. Look at the German states between 1815-1870. Secret student societies were the bane of the local and imperial authorities.

[The New California Republic]

To stop a tyrannical federal government- I would be willing to support the military being split up with about 1% of each state's population being in the armed services and requiring the consent of the state to let them go on federal missions you know like the original intention of the 2A state militias. But there is a 0% chance all 80M armed Americans beating the federal military if they did not defect.

What?? Can you rephrase this? It makes no sense. Please, proofread what you write...

Self protection- Why do you need anything more than 10 bullet revolver.

A ten bullet revolver? Do you know how exceedingly rare those are in comparison to the regular 6 to 8 shot ones?

Hunting- Why do you need anything more than a 10 mag hunting rifle to shoot a deer and have some food to eat.

"A 10 mag hunting rifle"??? What on earth is that?

Shooting at the range- Why do you need anything more then a 10 bullet revolver that does not use a magazine? You could allways reload on the spot. No military style semi auto's nessisary.

What is the cause of your 10 bullet obsession and your phobia of magazines?

Lol at the fact that everyone avoided my logical points because they had no good answer for them.

Keshiland, you use straw men like they are going out of fashion. How hypocritical.

[Hammer Britannia]

Secret student societies were the bane of the local and imperial authorities.

If you legitimately think College and High School students are taken seriously nowadays, I have something to tell you, friend.

[Euslavia]

What about completely banning civilian ownership of any firearms altogether? The only persons permitted to carry firearms would be active duty military and police forces. If you’re not on active duty in the police or the military, you will arrested simply for possession of a firearm. All civilian firearms would be confiscated. Those that don’t comply face arrest. Sure, such plans go against all American ideas (2nd Amendment), but these plans are the only solution that works. Rights should not stand in the way of goals (ends>means).

There's a reason no plan even close to this has been proposed in the US, as many of us have explained in the thread already.

And no, it would not work, and hasn't been done in any other western country to show it works.

Maybe that's the problem. America and other countries try the same things related to firearm control and yet shootings continue. Sometimes, a break from the current paradigm is required to truly create lasting change.

[Sovaal]

Here is a quick, non-rhetorical, question, and you can answer this however you want.. Do you know what a gun is?

First, there are many types of guns (handguns-revolvers, semi-automatic handguns), carbines (shortened rifles), semi-automatic rifles, etc.). I could go on and on. I will point out that 'gun' is not really a good word, since 'gun', in the traditional sense referred to artillery pieces, not personal weapons.

Gun has been used in English to describe handheld firearms ever since there have been hand held firearms avalible to the English (the gonne or hand cannon specifically). So gun is as accurate term as any other.

I define a 'gun’ (although I hate using that inaccurate term) as any device that propels a projectile through a tube using accelerating gas (air, CO2, smoke from gunpowder, etc.), resulting in near-supersonic or higher speeds (245 metres per second).
A firearm, specifically, is any of the above defined weapons that exploits the combustion of a solid (or liquid) chemical to achieve the accelerated gas. Moreover, the process is contained in a single object, the round, which contains the bullet (aerodynamic projectile), the casing housing the powder that is attached to the bullet, and the primer (spark generator). Most bullets (centerfire) have a specifically (centrally) located primer that must be struck to ignite the powder.

Problem is, is that for the majority of the gun's history, there was no single un it in firing, and this is still true of most air guns, which fit under your definition of gun. For example, muskets and early rifles are in every sense of the word firearms, yet the bullet, powder, and ignition device where a;; separate components. Cartridge using firearms only came into wide use around the time of the American Civil war.

Anyway, enough technical talk. I hope that I have shown that I know what 'guns’ are (I have even regularly fired 5,5 mm rifles at one point in my life).

5.5mm? 5.56?