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Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:49 pm

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Ifreann wrote:And what would American officers do? Shoot the hostage?


Only if the police officer is Keanu Reeves.

Ahem
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:15 pm

Keshiland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well when the shooter is on the 34th floor of a building the only thing you can do is run.


So guns don't keep you safe then :o who would have thunk

Um no. I'd advise you to put down the strawman.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:15 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Well when the shooter is on the 34th floor of a building the only thing you can do is run.

When the Soviets were in Afghanistan in the 1980's, they used ZSU-23-4's to fire up at the Mujahideen that were firing down at them from the hills and mountains:
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Just allow Americans to buy them, problem solved(!)

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:54 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:When the Soviets were in Afghanistan in the 1980's, they used ZSU-23-4's to fire up at the Mujahideen that were firing down at them from the hills and mountains:
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Just allow Americans to buy them, problem solved(!)

Id rather not turn a hotel into Swiss cheese

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:16 am

Keshiland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well when the shooter is on the 34th floor of a building the only thing you can do is run.


So guns don't keep you safe then :o who would have thunk

Unless you are that man on the 34th floor, and the people you are shooting are other snipers trying to kill you

So, guns keep you safe then :o who would have thunk
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:22 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
So guns don't keep you safe then :o who would have thunk

Unless you are that man on the 34th floor, and the people you are shooting are other snipers trying to kill you

So, guns keep you safe then :o who would have thunk

Or we could just fire an AT4 at him.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:29 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Unless you are that man on the 34th floor, and the people you are shooting are other snipers trying to kill you

So, guns keep you safe then :o who would have thunk

Or we could just fire an AT4 at him.

We should join forces. My platoon of ZSU-23-4's will provide suppressing fire at the upper floors of the hotel, while your grunts fire off AT4's at the lower floors. We'll bring that hotel crashing down in minutes!

...wait, was that not the objective??
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:54 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Unless you are that man on the 34th floor, and the people you are shooting are other snipers trying to kill you

So, guns keep you safe then :o who would have thunk

Or we could just fire an AT4 at him.


Those are loads of fun.

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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:55 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Or we could just fire an AT4 at him.

We should join forces. My platoon of ZSU-23-4's will provide suppressing fire at the upper floors of the hotel, while your grunts fire off AT4's at the lower floors. We'll bring that hotel crashing down in minutes!

...wait, was that not the objective??


It would certainly stop the sniper. :twisted:

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Postby Valgora » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:02 am

Big Jim P wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:We should join forces. My platoon of ZSU-23-4's will provide suppressing fire at the upper floors of the hotel, while your grunts fire off AT4's at the lower floors. We'll bring that hotel crashing down in minutes!

...wait, was that not the objective??


It would certainly stop the sniper. :twisted:


Sometimes, you just need to destroy a whole building to get one person.
Plus, it would look cool.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:08 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Unless you are that man on the 34th floor, and the people you are shooting are other snipers trying to kill you

So, guns keep you safe then :o who would have thunk

Or we could just fire an AT4 at him.

Or that, but that's a lot of firepower to take down one or two snipers
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Postby Len Hyet » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:57 am

Valgora wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
It would certainly stop the sniper. :twisted:


Sometimes, you just need to destroy a whole building to get one person.
Plus, it would look cool.

Fuck it we're Russian FSB groups now.

Can't have hostage takers if you kill all the hostages :p
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Postby Elwher » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:03 am

Valgora wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
It would certainly stop the sniper. :twisted:


Sometimes, you just need to destroy a whole building to get one person.
Plus, it would look cool.


In order to save the village, we had to destroy it.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:31 am

Elwher wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Sometimes, you just need to destroy a whole building to get one person.
Plus, it would look cool.


In order to save the village, we had to destroy it.


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Postby Elwher » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:48 am

Telconi wrote:
Elwher wrote:
In order to save the village, we had to destroy it.


Hey there Vladamir, long time no see!


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Postby Keshiland » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:21 am

Why don't you pro gunners think about other people for a change and actually concede to the pro gun control group? You are the definition of selfish. You would watch a town of 10,000 get executed with semi auto's and still claim "my right over their life" How do I know? Because every mass shooting that makes national news results in you guys going out and buying more guns. Pro gunners tell parents of kids killed in school shootings that they rather have their gun then those kids have their life. Its ducking disgusting.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:23 am

Keshiland wrote:Why don't you pro gunners think about other people for a change and actually concede to the pro gun control group? You are the definition of selfish. You would watch a town of 10,000 get executed with semi auto's and still claim "my right over their life" How do I know? Because every mass shooting that makes national news results in you guys going out and buying more guns. Pro gunners tell parents of kids killed in school shootings that they rather have their gun then those kids have their life. Its ducking disgusting.

Ah yes, go ahead, strawman your way out of this. "Pro gun people are evil because they allow guns to still exist"
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Postby Keshiland » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:25 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Keshiland wrote:Why don't you pro gunners think about other people for a change and actually concede to the pro gun control group? You are the definition of selfish. You would watch a town of 10,000 get executed with semi auto's and still claim "my right over their life" How do I know? Because every mass shooting that makes national news results in you guys going out and buying more guns. Pro gunners tell parents of kids killed in school shootings that they rather have their gun then those kids have their life. Its ducking disgusting.

Ah yes, go ahead, strawman your way out of this. "Pro gun people are evil because they allow guns to still exist"


If the government could guarantee that everyone living inside the USA would be gun free would you support a total gun ban?
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:27 am

Keshiland wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Ah yes, go ahead, strawman your way out of this. "Pro gun people are evil because they allow guns to still exist"


If the government could guarantee that everyone living inside the USA would be gun free would you support a total gun ban?

No, if everyone in the USA could physically remove every gun from existence I still wouldn't support it. Even if they were able to remove every WEAPON in existence I still wouldn't support it.
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Postby Keshiland » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:28 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
If the government could guarantee that everyone living inside the USA would be gun free would you support a total gun ban?

No, if everyone in the USA could physically remove every gun from existence I still wouldn't support it. Even if they were able to remove every WEAPON in existence I still wouldn't support it.


Hence why pro gunners support guns over life. See it was not a strawman, after all, it was a solid argument.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:31 am

Keshiland wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:No, if everyone in the USA could physically remove every gun from existence I still wouldn't support it. Even if they were able to remove every WEAPON in existence I still wouldn't support it.


Hence why pro gunners support guns over life. See it was not a strawman, after all, it was a solid argument.

Ever heard of a little thing called "Most gun owners have decent humanity"? If anything all the arguments were PRO gun as they show that the world is a violent world and we need to defend ourselves

In other words, your argument was stupid and you can get out of this corner
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Postby Len Hyet » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:32 am

Keshiland wrote:Why don't you anti gunners think about other people for a change and actually concede to the pro gun group? You are the definition of selfish. You would watch a town of 10,000 starve without hunting, and between 600,000 and 3,000,000 be victims of violent crime without self defense and still claim "my feels over their life". How do I know? Because every mass shooting that makes national news results in you guys going out and fear mongering. Anti gunners tell parents of kids killed in home invasions that they rather have their feelings of superiority then those kids have their life. Its fucking disgusting.


Fixed that for you.
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Postby Keshiland » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:33 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
Hence why pro gunners support guns over life. See it was not a strawman, after all, it was a solid argument.

Ever heard of a little thing called "Most gun owners have decent humanity"? If anything all the arguments were PRO gun as they show that the world is a violent world and we need to defend ourselves

In other words, your argument was stupid and you can get out of this corner


You just said you would not give up your gun to end all the death and destruction in the world. That's not humanity that brutality
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Postby Keshiland » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:35 am

Len Hyet wrote:
Keshiland wrote:Why don't you anti gunners think about other people for a change and actually concede to the pro gun group? You are the definition of selfish. You would watch a town of 10,000 starve without hunting, and between 600,000 and 3,000,000 be victims of violent crime without self defense and still claim "my feels over their life". How do I know? Because every mass shooting that makes national news results in you guys going out and fear mongering. Anti gunners tell parents of kids killed in home invasions that they rather have their feelings of superiority then those kids have their life. Its fucking disgusting.


Fixed that for you.


If you can't hunt with a bow and arrow thats your problem and food is at the store. Also you are more likely to have the gun used on you in the home then used against an home invader
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