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Am I right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:04 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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Assuming you were the Mayor, you wouldn't have the authority to call in the National Guard.

Infact im pretty sure the national guard, FBI, and state police would be surrounding the city.

That is assuming this city get's off the ground...it won't.
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Postby Greater Redosia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:04 pm

Zeclil wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
Then I would just completely over exaggerate the threat of this tank man so that the national guard come in and take it out with bazookas. I would just say ARMED ATTACKER IN A TANK THREATENING CIVILIANS WE NEED THE NATIONAL GUARD BEFORE MASS DEATH ENSUES!


Funny that a place with 0 guns needs people with guns to keep itself safe, eh?

Hmm... it's almost poetic.


Especially giving the SWAT bazookas, so I guess he supports militarization of the police. :T
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:05 pm

Real Six Flags wrote:For some reason I get a jonestown vibe from Keshi


You'll be fine, as long as you don't drink the kool-aid. Or own legal objects. Or dare to think differently than Keshi.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:06 pm

Greater Redosia wrote:
Zeclil wrote:
Funny that a place with 0 guns needs people with guns to keep itself safe, eh?

Hmm... it's almost poetic.


Especially giving the SWAT bazookas, so I guess he supports militarization of the police. :T

No just the SWAT team...so very few of them.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:06 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So this is how a cult begins

No, cults need to have a charismatic leader.

Druging your potential followers is an easy way around that problem, and honestly sounds like a Keshiland solution
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:06 pm

Keshiland wrote:I have figured it out. I will just create my own town run under the guise of a business that is free of guns. The only people with guns will be the border guards. The name will be Libertatem Tormenta latin for freedom from guns.

Tormenta means storm. I doubt there is a Latin word for guns, since there weren't guns when Latin was a living language.


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Then a law would be made making it an arrestable offence.


That law would probably itself be unconstitutional. Fruit of a poisonous tree.

If you tried to appeal you would be asked why you went to a town that had a no guns flag had the name freedom from guns and said they did not welcome the 2A if you owned guns. The courts would tell you to deal with it.


That's what you call asking for a "change of venue" or appealing to a higher court.

In either case, the judge would ask why you knowingly and willfully attempted to setup a government that directly attempts to impede and undermine the highest law in the land, in direct contradiction to a standing decision from the highest court in the land.

Also, they'll hit you with millions of dollars in penalties for willful and capricious violation of constitutional rights so you can think about what you've done. You might also go to jail for criminal contempt if you continue.

At some point this "I'll just make my own government!" stuff would constitute treason.
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Postby Real Six Flags » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:07 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So this is how a cult begins

No, cults need to have a charismatic leader.

Or someone with crazy enough ideas. I doubt a charasmatic person would bother creating sciencology or whatever it's called.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:07 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Infact im pretty sure the national guard, FBI, and state police would be surrounding the city.

That is assuming this city get's off the ground...it won't.

We are past that point. Reality was suspended a few pages back
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Postby Real Six Flags » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:08 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Keshiland wrote:I have figured it out. I will just create my own town run under the guise of a business that is free of guns. The only people with guns will be the border guards. The name will be Libertatem Tormenta latin for freedom from guns.

Tormenta means storm. I doubt there is a Latin word for guns, since there weren't guns when Latin was a living language.


Galloism wrote:
That law would probably itself be unconstitutional. Fruit of a poisonous tree.



That's what you call asking for a "change of venue" or appealing to a higher court.

In either case, the judge would ask why you knowingly and willfully attempted to setup a government that directly attempts to impede and undermine the highest law in the land, in direct contradiction to a standing decision from the highest court in the land.

Also, they'll hit you with millions of dollars in penalties for willful and capricious violation of constitutional rights so you can think about what you've done. You might also go to jail for criminal contempt if you continue.

At some point this "I'll just make my own government!" stuff would constitute treason.

Oh god storm troopers! These are not the guns you are looking for.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:08 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Real Six Flags wrote:For some reason I get a jonestown vibe from Keshi

So this is how a cult begins

There's reasons kool-aid has been mentioned in replies ...

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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:09 pm

So anyone have the numbers for what percentage of truckers keep a gun in their cab?
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:11 pm

Keshiland wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Or what?


The tank is getting destroyed and he will have to surrender to 50 swat men with guns pointed at him in 10 seconds

Totally calling godmod here - you can't call damages on your opponent, and ...

Oh. Wait. This is NSG. Keep forgetting, given the purely fantastical world Keshi appears to think he operates in. Halp, we're being sucked into the black hole that is 'what Keshi doesn't grok'.

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Postby Greater Redosia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:12 pm

Real Six Flags wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Tormenta means storm. I doubt there is a Latin word for guns, since there weren't guns when Latin was a living language.



At some point this "I'll just make my own government!" stuff would constitute treason.

Oh god storm troopers! These are not the guns you are looking for.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:13 pm

Neutraligon wrote:So anyone have the numbers for what percentage of truckers keep a gun in their cab?


Every single one that I know. I actually know a couple who keep ARs in their trucks.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:13 pm

Greater Redosia wrote:
Real Six Flags wrote:Oh god storm troopers! These are not the guns you are looking for.

Did I do good?
Image

More accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax7tmaY ... sGotTalent
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Postby Valgora » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:16 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Greater Redosia wrote:Did I do good?
Image

More accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax7tmaY ... sGotTalent


Actually, that might be effective.
That would definitely stop multiple criminal in their tracks.
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Postby Real Six Flags » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:16 pm

Greater Redosia wrote:
Real Six Flags wrote:Oh god storm troopers! These are not the guns you are looking for.

Did I do good?
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Keshis already on thin ice
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:18 pm

Valgora wrote:


Actually, that might be effective.
That would definitely stop multiple criminal in their tracks.

Good point. dancing storm troopers are enough to stop anyone, including criminals in their tracks.
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Postby Valgora » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:18 pm

Real Six Flags wrote:
Greater Redosia wrote:Did I do good?
Image

Keshis already on thin ice


I don't deal with the WA, but y'all should definitely make it actually a thing.

However, an entirely new condemnation proposal would need to be made.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:19 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Greater Redosia wrote:Did I do good?
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More accurate
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Keshiland troopers only wish they'd look so cool. ;)

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Postby Wysten » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:55 pm

I came into this thread playing fortune son and boy does it feel like Nam.
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Postby Valgora » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:58 pm

Wysten wrote:I came into this thread playing fortune son and boy does it feel like Nam.


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It ain't me
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It ain't me
It ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no, no


That song is now going to be stuck in my head.
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Postby Wysten » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:58 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Keshiland wrote:I have figured it out. I will just create my own town run under the guise of a business that is free of guns. The only people with guns will be the border guards. The name will be Libertatem Tormenta latin for freedom from guns.

Tormenta means storm. I doubt there is a Latin word for guns, since there weren't guns when Latin was a living language.


Galloism wrote:
That law would probably itself be unconstitutional. Fruit of a poisonous tree.



That's what you call asking for a "change of venue" or appealing to a higher court.

In either case, the judge would ask why you knowingly and willfully attempted to setup a government that directly attempts to impede and undermine the highest law in the land, in direct contradiction to a standing decision from the highest court in the land.

Also, they'll hit you with millions of dollars in penalties for willful and capricious violation of constitutional rights so you can think about what you've done. You might also go to jail for criminal contempt if you continue.

At some point this "I'll just make my own government!" stuff would constitute treason.

It's almost like he tried something like this before it's just a hunch though.
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Postby Len Hyet » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:00 pm

Man I clearly missed some quality Keshiness earlier. What's all this about tanks and border guards?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:02 pm

Valgora wrote:
Wysten wrote:I came into this thread playing fortune son and boy does it feel like Nam.


It ain't me
It ain't me
I ain't no millionaire's son, no, no

It ain't me
It ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no, no


That song is now going to be stuck in my head.

It's a damn good song
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