Gun Control

[Valgora]

What the fuck?
How the fuck is the 2nd Amendment not incorporated? It's in the fuckin' constitution.

The SCOTUS was hesitant as duck to incorporate it to the states it took till 2008 to incorporate the 2nd amendment

What?
That doesn't make any fuckin' sense!

The States have to incorporate it because of the Bill of Rights and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution. Therefore, any State that is under the Federal gov't must follow the Constitution.

[Keshiland]

The business would own all the property and the government in the town would run the legal stuff. So the government would arrest them.

They'd do what now?

You relies since the all the property would be private they could be convicted of armed tress passing. Its all part of the plan to trap gun owners between a rock and a hard place if they try anything in this town/city.

[Galloism]

The SCOTUS was hesitant as duck to incorporate it to the states it took till 2008 to incorporate the 2nd amendment

You have no idea what you're talking about...

The SCOTUS was hesitant as duck to incorporate it to the states it took till 2008 to incorporate the 2nd amendment

What?
That doesn't make any fuckin' sense!

The States have to incorporate it because of the Bill of Rights and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution. Therefore, any State that is under the Federal gov't must follow the Constitution.

Well, he's sort of right and sort of wrong.

SCOTUS didn't take a case addressing the issue of incorporation of the 2nd amendment to the states until McDonald vs. Chicago, which was in 2010 (not 2008). So there was no SCOTUS ruling that the 2nd amendment bound the states. It's logical based on the text of the 14th, but SCOTUS had never before broached the issue.

When they did broach it, they ruled that the 2nd applies to the states. Therefore, the 2nd amendment is incorporated to the states... and always was, because this is how Supreme Court rulings work.

[Galloism]

They'd do what now?

You relies since the all the property would be private they could be convicted of armed tress passing. Its all part of the plan to trap gun owners between a rock and a hard place if they try anything in this town/city.

Using a rented property in a manner inconsistent with its lease terms is not trespassing. It's breach of contract, and it's not an arrestable offense.

[Real Six Flags]

You have no idea what you're talking about...

What?
That doesn't make any fuckin' sense!

The States have to incorporate it because of the Bill of Rights and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution. Therefore, any State that is under the Federal gov't must follow the Constitution.

Well, he's sort of right and sort of wrong.

SCOTUS didn't take a case addressing the issue of incorporation of the 2nd amendment to the states until McDonald vs. Chicago, which was in 2010 (not 2008). So there was no SCOTUS ruling that the 2nd amendment bound the states. It's logical based on the text of the 14th, but SCOTUS had never before broached the issue.

When they did broach it, they ruled that the 2nd applies to the states. Therefore, the 2nd amendment is incorporated to the states... and always was, because this is how Supreme Court rulings work.

I've always hated the supreme Court. Wished they'd let me visit them, so I can give em a piece of my mine, but I have to acknowledge that receiving lawsuits wouldn't be the best way at proving a point

[Galloism]

Well, he's sort of right and sort of wrong.

SCOTUS didn't take a case addressing the issue of incorporation of the 2nd amendment to the states until McDonald vs. Chicago, which was in 2010 (not 2008). So there was no SCOTUS ruling that the 2nd amendment bound the states. It's logical based on the text of the 14th, but SCOTUS had never before broached the issue.

When they did broach it, they ruled that the 2nd applies to the states. Therefore, the 2nd amendment is incorporated to the states... and always was, because this is how Supreme Court rulings work.

I've always hated the supreme Court. Wished they'd let me visit them, so I can give em a piece of my mine, but I have to acknowledge that receiving lawsuits wouldn't be the best way at proving a point

I'm sure dumping debris from a mine in the Supreme Court would violate some kind of law.

[Keshiland]

You relies since the all the property would be private they could be convicted of armed tress passing. Its all part of the plan to trap gun owners between a rock and a hard place if they try anything in this town/city.

Using a rented property in a manner inconsistent with its lease terms is not trespassing. It's breach of contract, and it's not an arrestable offense.

Then a law would be made making it an arrestable offence. If you tried to appeal you would be asked why you went to a town that had a no guns flag had the name freedom from guns and said they did not welcome the 2A if you owned guns. The courts would tell you to deal with it.

[Telconi]

Using a rented property in a manner inconsistent with its lease terms is not trespassing. It's breach of contract, and it's not an arrestable offense.

Then a law would be made making it an arrestable offence. If you tried to appeal you would be asked why you went to a town that had a no guns flag had the name freedom from guns and said they did not welcome the 2A if you owned guns. The courts would tell you to deal with it.

Well, seeing as your town would still be part of America, and the 2A would apply rather you wanted or not, the court would likely tell you to deal with it.

[Galloism]

Using a rented property in a manner inconsistent with its lease terms is not trespassing. It's breach of contract, and it's not an arrestable offense.

Then a law would be made making it an arrestable offence.

That law would probably itself be unconstitutional. Fruit of a poisonous tree.

If you tried to appeal you would be asked why you went to a town that had a no guns flag had the name freedom from guns and said they did not welcome the 2A if you owned guns. The courts would tell you to deal with it.

That's what you call asking for a "change of venue" or appealing to a higher court.

In either case, the judge would ask why you knowingly and willfully attempted to setup a government that directly attempts to impede and undermine the highest law in the land, in direct contradiction to a standing decision from the highest court in the land.

Also, they'll hit you with millions of dollars in penalties for willful and capricious violation of constitutional rights so you can think about what you've done. You might also go to jail for criminal contempt if you continue.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Why? What endangerment? Minor in possession of a weapon? pffft, we all had firearms growing up, what are you going to do lock up the whole damn town?

You had guns and ammo accessible to children. Yeah no. If I was the sharif in your town every single parent in that town would have been told to hand over the weapons and either plead guilty and get your sentence in house arrest or go to court and face your sentence in prison.

Sheriffs don't prosecute people, or hand out sentences.

[Keshiland]

Then a law would be made making it an arrestable offence. If you tried to appeal you would be asked why you went to a town that had a no guns flag had the name freedom from guns and said they did not welcome the 2A if you owned guns. The courts would tell you to deal with it.

Well, seeing as your town would still be part of America, and the 2A would apply rather you wanted or not, the court would likely tell you to deal with it.

You would litterally be arrested on this charge

Contract Fraud- The purposeful action of lying or breaking a contract, up to 1 year in prison

You would then be a felony and barred from owning a gun

[Gun Manufacturers]

I have figured it out. I will just create my own town run under the guise of a business that is free of guns. The only people with guns will be the border guards. The name will be Libertatem Tormenta latin for freedom from guns.

It will be built in a large open place where there are no other cities or town. Have its own flag and consist of thousands of homes. Basically, businesses and people will be free to build houses and apartments incorporating them into the town. All the residents will have a card that they will need to show border guards to get in. It will keep growing until it reaches a max of 5M. We will have our own fully working government with taxes that actually help our residents. Mayor legislature and judges.

The 1st law passed under this town/city will be

Possession or sale of a firearm will result in a 20 year minimum sentence in prison.

In the middle of the flag a sentence will read

The 2A is not welcome here!

Since it would be both a town/city and business owned property people would not be able to sue to get the 2A incorporated into our little constitution.

Sounds like a prison. How would you get your town incorporated? How would you draw people to your town? And I hope you're aware that since the 2nd Amendment is Federal law, you can't just deny people in your prison, I mean town, from owning firearms.

[Real Six Flags]

Well, seeing as your town would still be part of America, and the 2A would apply rather you wanted or not, the court would likely tell you to deal with it.

You would litterally be arrested on this charge

Contract Fraud- The purposeful action of lying or breaking a contract, up to 1 year in prison

You would then be a felony and barred from owning a gun

Wait until you get civil rights fraud.

[Greater Redosia]

Well, seeing as your town would still be part of America, and the 2A would apply rather you wanted or not, the court would likely tell you to deal with it.

You would litterally be arrested on this charge

Contract Fraud- The purposeful action of lying or breaking a contract, up to 1 year in prison

You would then be a felony and barred from owning a gun

So tell me then, how is the business going to stay profitable. Just how is it going to not go bankrupt.

[Galloism]

Well, seeing as your town would still be part of America, and the 2A would apply rather you wanted or not, the court would likely tell you to deal with it.

You would litterally be arrested on this charge

Contract Fraud- The purposeful action of lying or breaking a contract, up to 1 year in prison

You would then be a felony and barred from owning a gun

Cool. Then all I'd have to do is get the business to break the contract for a bullshit reason not covered by the contract, and I could put the business owner in prison.

This might get even more fun. People who can read contracts will then extort the business for money by doing things completely not envisioned in the contracts, and when the business finally breaks the contract, can extort the business for money under threat of jail time if they press charges.

[Keshiland]

You would litterally be arrested on this charge

Contract Fraud- The purposeful action of lying or breaking a contract, up to 1 year in prison

You would then be a felony and barred from owning a gun

So tell me then, how is the business going to stay profitable. Just how is it going to not go bankrupt.

Taxes. It would be the body of the town/city. The government would collect taxes and then the 4th branch the business would be given the money to carry out government policies.

[Telconi]

Well, seeing as your town would still be part of America, and the 2A would apply rather you wanted or not, the court would likely tell you to deal with it.

You would litterally be arrested on this charge

Contract Fraud- The purposeful action of lying or breaking a contract, up to 1 year in prison

You would then be a felony and barred from owning a gun

Contract fraud isn't a crime that punishes one year in prison.

[Real Six Flags]

You would litterally be arrested on this charge

Contract Fraud- The purposeful action of lying or breaking a contract, up to 1 year in prison

You would then be a felony and barred from owning a gun

Cool. Then all I'd have to do is get the business to break the contract for a bullshit reason not covered by the contract, and I could put the business owner in prison.

This might get even more fun. People who can read contracts will then extort the business for money by doing things completely not envisioned in the contracts, and when the business finally breaks the contract, can extort the business for money under threat of jail time if they press charges.

I'd go shooting before they'd turn me in. All this is a Witch Hunt, and im not gonna be one of the witches y'all.

[Valgora]

So tell me then, how is the business going to stay profitable. Just how is it going to not go bankrupt.

Taxes. It would be the body of the town/city. The government would collect taxes and then the 4th branch the business would be given the money to carry out government policies.

Is this a business you're making, or a government?
Although, you could just call taxes rent.

How would the corporation stay in business and what does it do to show that it is a business?

[Real Six Flags]

So tell me then, how is the business going to stay profitable. Just how is it going to not go bankrupt.

Taxes. It would be the body of the town/city. The government would collect taxes and then the 4th branch the business would be given the money to carry out government policies.

This contract fraud will skyrocket unemployment rates and Confederate flag rates

[Telconi]

So tell me then, how is the business going to stay profitable. Just how is it going to not go bankrupt.

Taxes. It would be the body of the town/city. The government would collect taxes and then the 4th branch the business would be given the money to carry out government policies.

So basically "I'm going to corrupt a government Institution to enforce my dystopia" is the new Keshi-scheme. I guess it''s better than literally creating the SS...

[Keshiland]

You would litterally be arrested on this charge

Contract Fraud- The purposeful action of lying or breaking a contract, up to 1 year in prison

You would then be a felony and barred from owning a gun

Cool. Then all I'd have to do is get the business to break the contract for a bullshit reason not covered by the contract, and I could put the business owner in prison.

This might get even more fun. People who can read contracts will then extort the business for money by doing things completely not envisioned in the contracts, and when the business finally breaks the contract, can extort the business for money under threat of jail time if they press charges.

Since it would be the 4th branch of this government it would be given immunity by the legislature from being preyed on by "outside predators" aka gun owners trying to destroy the gun free safe haven

[Telconi]

Cool. Then all I'd have to do is get the business to break the contract for a bullshit reason not covered by the contract, and I could put the business owner in prison.

This might get even more fun. People who can read contracts will then extort the business for money by doing things completely not envisioned in the contracts, and when the business finally breaks the contract, can extort the business for money under threat of jail time if they press charges.

Since it would be the 4th branch of this government it would be given immunity by the legislature from being preyed on by "outside predators" aka gun owners trying to destroy the gun free safe haven

What legislature?

[Valgora]

Taxes. It would be the body of the town/city. The government would collect taxes and then the 4th branch the business would be given the money to carry out government policies.

So basically "I'm going to corrupt a goverent I situation to enforce my dystopia" is the new Keshi-scheme. I guess it''s better than literally creating the SS...

His border guards are armed.
I guess that's his version of the SS (or would it be more akin to the SA?).

[Galloism]

Cool. Then all I'd have to do is get the business to break the contract for a bullshit reason not covered by the contract, and I could put the business owner in prison.

This might get even more fun. People who can read contracts will then extort the business for money by doing things completely not envisioned in the contracts, and when the business finally breaks the contract, can extort the business for money under threat of jail time if they press charges.

Since it would be the 4th branch of this government it would be given immunity by the legislature from being preyed on by "outside predators" aka gun owners trying to destroy the gun free safe haven

If you make it the fourth branch of government, then it's a sub-entity of the government, and therefore subject to constitutional restrictions - including the 2nd.