40 MILLION Slaves In the World, Finds New Report

[Longweather]

Well, that's a smaller portion of the world's population than I thought. Roughly 0.53% in slavery isn't that horrible. Of course, slavery is bad and all (m'kay) but the fact that it's such a relatively small number is neat. I would have pegged around double to quadruple that number as being slaves if pressed.

Anyways, I expect this to eventually get better as time goes on and governments work to undermine various, illegal slave rings (and stop the Tuareg and other peoples from having slaves... I wouldn't exactly call them "slave rings.").

[Petrolheadia]

Most of them are in places where there is not enough law enforcement to stop slavery, and not enough money around to hire them.

[The of Japan]

Well, that's a smaller portion of the world's population than I thought. Roughly 0.53% in slavery isn't that horrible. Of course, slavery is bad and all (m'kay) but the fact that it's such a relatively small number is neat. I would have pegged around double to quadruple that number as being slaves if pressed.

Anyways, I expect this to eventually get better as time goes on and governments work to undermine various, illegal slave rings (and stop the Tuareg and other peoples from having slaves... I wouldn't exactly call them "slave rings.").

I feel differently about it then you do.

I consider 1 SLAVE to be too many slaves. See, people worry about it, but some people have been turned off by the news. There is so much bad news that they become numb to it, a sing of being culturally numb. I see that as humankind's main trouble. I hope to God that I never become so numb that I can see things that are obviously wrong and can't even shed a tear.

Russia actually has thousands (mostly from migrant workers) and the US? only those kid snapped or coerced into sex slavery by criminal organizations.

[Krasny-Volny]

I thought slavery was done, but apparently it still exists !

Mauritania didn't formally abolish slavery until the 1980s, and the enslavement of (predominantly) black Africans by Arabs there still continues informally due to lack of enforcement. Theoretically I could go to Mauritania right now and buy a human being if I knew where to look. There were allegations of similar treatment of people from Darfur by the north Sudanese a few years ago.

I survived a kidnapping attempt at 8 while traveling in a Southeast Asian country that experienced an unusual spike of disappearances of children in my age group that year. The prevailing theory, according to the government-owned media, was that the children had been kidnapped by a human trafficking syndicate and taken to Thailand as slaves. There were reports of some of the missing kids being spotted begging in the streets of Bangkok.

The minute you step outside your comfortable bubble you'll realize slavery is alive and well just about everywhere outside the West.

[Sovaal]

What, are you just figuring it out?

The modern slave trade has been a problem for a long time.

[Rusozak]

I blame the "not our problem" mentality in regards to the west's approach on developing nations. Maybe if we saw everyone as human instead of different races or ethnicity, people would care more enough to bring those numbers down.

[Sovaal]

I blame the "not our problem" mentality in regards to the west's approach on developing nations. Maybe if we saw everyone as human instead of different races or ethnicity, people would care more enough to bring those numbers down.

When the west does get involve it often devolves into a shit show. Anyway, what could we do?

[Cetacea]

Most of them are in places where there is not enough law enforcement to stop slavery, and not enough money around to hire them.

While those are bad, the real problem is that even modern western democracies are showing a rise in Slavery. There is an estimated 57000 Americans who are victims of modern human trafficking and 12000 Britons, and while most European Slavery occurs in Eastern Europe the fact remains that 65 percent of identified trafficked victims within Europe are citizens of the EU.

Anti-Immigration sentiments are not making things any easier.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sponsored/li ... y-britain/

[Dylar]

Now I know where those 40 million free cell phones and prescription meds came from...Terrible joke, I know...

[Rusozak]

I blame the "not our problem" mentality in regards to the west's approach on developing nations. Maybe if we saw everyone as human instead of different races or ethnicity, people would care more enough to bring those numbers down.

When the west does get involve it often devolves into a shit show. Anyway, what could we do?

That's the question many struggle on, and admittingly I can't claim to know of the perfect solution. But I can say with confidence that sitting back and watching from afar doesn't help.

[Senkaku]

I thought slavery was done, but apparently it still exists !

lol

[San Lumen]

Slavery never fully disappeared. There are plenty of countries where it still exists and the list is more extensive then you might think. Human trafficking is a form of slavery. Ever see the film Taken? The sub pilot is about human trafficking.

[Risottia]

[b]
More than 40 million people were estimated to be victims of modern slavery in 2016

Only 40 million? I expected more, just from general ideas about the market for slave prostitution.

[San Lumen]

[b]
More than 40 million people were estimated to be victims of modern slavery in 2016

Only 40 million? I expected more, just from general ideas about the market for slave prostitution.

I don't have a definitive source but a professor of mine in college said "There are more people enslaved today than any other time in history."

[Roskian Federation]

Well, that's a smaller portion of the world's population than I thought. Roughly 0.53% in slavery isn't that horrible. Of course, slavery is bad and all (m'kay) but the fact that it's such a relatively small number is neat. I would have pegged around double to quadruple that number as being slaves if pressed.

Anyways, I expect this to eventually get better as time goes on and governments work to undermine various, illegal slave rings (and stop the Tuareg and other peoples from having slaves... I wouldn't exactly call them "slave rings.").

I feel differently about it then you do.

I consider 1 SLAVE to be too many slaves. See, people worry about it, but some people have been turned off by the news. There is so much bad news that they become numb to it, a sing of being culturally numb. I see that as humankind's main trouble. I hope to God that I never become so numb that I can see things that are obviously wrong and can't even shed a tear.

One slave is too many slaves, but as that number shrinks, it means we are getting better at our jobs.

[Soyouso]

Considering the human trafficking problem, this isn't a jaw dropper to me.

[Sovaal]

When the west does get involve it often devolves into a shit show. Anyway, what could we do?

That's the question many struggle on, and admittingly I can't claim to know of the perfect solution. But I can say with confidence that sitting back and watching from afar doesn't help.

And diving I head first without any plan often makes it worse.

[Topoliani]

... I should be shocked by this, but I am not. I am disgusted, but I am not surprised.

[Thermodolia]

You are just now figuring this out?

[Galloism]

I'm not sure I would consider a "forced marriage" slavery. It's certainly reprehensible, but I'm not sure it's slavery per se. At least, it's not what I think of when I think of slavery. I'm not sure what everyone else thinks.

However, even putting that aside, that puts 25 million people in conditions of forced labor and 15 million in forced marriage. Utilizing the percentages given in the article, this puts 28.4 million women and girls in what they define as slavery, with 12.6 million in the "forced marriage" category. This means 15.8 million women are in forced labor, and 12.6 million in forced marriages.

By process of elimination, that means 9.2 million men and boys are in forced labor, and 2.4 million men and boys in forced marriages.

Unacceptable numbers, but not particularly surprising.

Of note: this data does NOT include those who are enslaved via conscription into military service unless they are then pressed specifically into construction or agriculture (according to the article), because being forced into military service against your will does not constitute slavery or being forced as part of the military into other economic activities besides those two things against your will is not slavery. For some reason.

[Thermodolia]

I'm not sure I would consider a "forced marriage" slavery. It's certainly reprehensible, but I'm not sure it's slavery per se. At least, it's not what I think of when I think of slavery. I'm not sure what everyone else thinks.

However, even putting that aside, that puts 25 million people in conditions of forced labor and 15 million in forced marriage. Utilizing the percentages given in the article, this puts 28.4 million women and girls in what they define as slavery, with 12.6 million in the "forced marriage" category. This means 15.8 million women are in forced labor, and 12.6 million in forced marriages.

By process of elimination, that means 9.2 million men and boys are in forced labor, and 2.4 million men and boys in forced marriages.

Unacceptable numbers, but not particularly surprising.

Of note: this data does NOT include those who are enslaved via conscription into military service unless they are then pressed specifically into construction or agriculture (according to the article), because being forced into military service against your will does not constitute slavery or being forced as part of the military into other economic activities besides those two things against your will is not slavery. For some reason.

Well we really don't count conscription as slavery

[Galloism]

I'm not sure I would consider a "forced marriage" slavery. It's certainly reprehensible, but I'm not sure it's slavery per se. At least, it's not what I think of when I think of slavery. I'm not sure what everyone else thinks.

However, even putting that aside, that puts 25 million people in conditions of forced labor and 15 million in forced marriage. Utilizing the percentages given in the article, this puts 28.4 million women and girls in what they define as slavery, with 12.6 million in the "forced marriage" category. This means 15.8 million women are in forced labor, and 12.6 million in forced marriages.

By process of elimination, that means 9.2 million men and boys are in forced labor, and 2.4 million men and boys in forced marriages.

Unacceptable numbers, but not particularly surprising.

Of note: this data does NOT include those who are enslaved via conscription into military service unless they are then pressed specifically into construction or agriculture (according to the article), because being forced into military service against your will does not constitute slavery or being forced as part of the military into other economic activities besides those two things against your will is not slavery. For some reason.

Well we really don't count conscription as slavery

I know, unless they are then pressed to, as part of the military, perform construction or agriculture (highly specific).

And yet, we really should. It's possibly one of the worst forms of slavery there is - with one of the highest risks of injury or death associated with said slavery.

[Thermodolia]

Well we really don't count conscription as slavery

I know.

And yet, we really should. It's possibly one of the worst forms of slavery there is - with one of the highest risks of injury or death associated with said slavery.

But do we really want to label all of our WW2, Korean, Vietnam vets as slaves? That doesn't seem like a good idea to me at all

[Galloism]

I know.

And yet, we really should. It's possibly one of the worst forms of slavery there is - with one of the highest risks of injury or death associated with said slavery.

But do we really want to label all of our WW2, Korean, Vietnam vets as slaves? That doesn't seem like a good idea to me at all

All? No. Just those who were conscripted.

I mean, it fits the bill. We've long since realized that state actors can engage in slavery. Heck - even military conscripts can be considered slaves if they are then forced to engage in agriculture or construction as part of the military for economic reasons (again, highly specific). Per the article, even prisoners can be considered slaves if they're forced to engage in labor as prisoners. The logical implication is that conscripts ARE slaves if they did not want to go. It fits the logic, and if there's uncomfortable implications of that, maybe we need to confront those implications.

From the article:

An estimated 4.1 million people are victims of forced labor imposed by state authorities. They include people made by their state authorities to participate in agriculture or construction work to boost economic development, young military conscripts forced to perform non-military work, and prisoners forced to work without consent at private prisons.

It was not all that long ago we, in the United States, forced prisoners to work in chain gangs, whether they wanted to or not. Per this study, if it was a private prison, they would be considered slaves (again, highly specific place to draw the line - why not public prisons?). Those people were slaves by this definition.

Including military conscripts fits the logic, maybe even moreso than prisoners forced to work against their will or military conscripts forced to engage in agriculture or construction.

[Yami-Chan]

Typical whites

"Slaverys gone guys stop crying."

Then they bury their head and profit off enslaved proletariat life usual.