Brazilian Justice allows to treat Homosexuality as disease

[Volkegoth]

Okay. Go ahead and think that.

Think what?

wrong form sorry

[Internationalist Bastard]

Culture sets your morality.

Logically if your told being gay is immoral you set your mindset to never being in a romantic relationship with other men. Their are some cases from time to time where they reject this morality notion and do it anyways. This could be interpreted as pure rebellioness or a sexual desire.

Ya that's 100% bunk.

I was told growing up that being gay is a sin and that bullshit. Ya that didn't work, I wasn't corrupted nor was I being rebellious. It just happened. God decided that poof Therm is a poof

Been a while since a ns quote really made me laugh

[Thermodolia]

Ya that's 100% bunk.

I was told growing up that being gay is a sin and that bullshit. Ya that didn't work, I wasn't corrupted nor was I being rebellious. It just happened. God decided that poof Therm is a poof

Been a while since a ns quote really made me laugh

I'll be here all night

[Minzerland II]

Exactly, but you don't see much which means culture plays a heavy influence on sexuality

Actually, before the invention of the Abrahamic Religions or contact with the West, multiple societies including (but not limited too) Egypt, Mesopotamia, Rome and Greece, the East Asian kingdoms, multiple Native American societies, etc... all had and accepted LGBT populations, with some countries even having legal same-sex marriages and partnerships (Both for pleasure and economic reasons).

Tbf, as far as I am aware, nothing suggests Egyptians were at all accepting of homosexuality; for the Romans it depended on whether you were dominant or submissive, so I find it to be a stretch to really say they accepted homosexuality, more like they accepted it if you were dominant. All else you may be right.

[Benjabobaria]

If one would consider homosexuality a disease - which is not the right label for it, being homosexual is not necessarily harmful to a person - it's genetic.

I do not understand this pseudoscience bullshit - homosexuality is not a psychological thing.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Actually, before the invention of the Abrahamic Religions or contact with the West, multiple societies including (but not limited too) Egypt, Mesopotamia, Rome and Greece, the East Asian kingdoms, multiple Native American societies, etc... all had and accepted LGBT populations, with some countries even having legal same-sex marriages and partnerships (Both for pleasure and economic reasons).

Tbf, as far as I am aware, nothing suggests Egyptians were at all accepting of homosexuality; for the Romans it depended on whether you were dominant or submissive, so I find it to be a stretch to really say they accepted homosexuality, more like they accepted it if you were dominant. All else you may be right.

In fact, it actually seems gay marriage was a thing in medieval France, so this is a thing thats been acknowledged throughout history

[Minzerland II]

Tbf, as far as I am aware, nothing suggests Egyptians were at all accepting of homosexuality; for the Romans it depended on whether you were dominant or submissive, so I find it to be a stretch to really say they accepted homosexuality, more like they accepted it if you were dominant. All else you may be right.

In fact, it actually seems gay marriage was a thing in medieval France, so this is a thing thats been acknowledged throughout history

I have never heard about that at all. Could I have a source, please?

[Holy Tedalonia]

Culture sets your morality.

Logically if your told being gay is immoral you set your mindset to never being in a romantic relationship with other men. Their are some cases from time to time where they reject this morality notion and do it anyways. This could be interpreted as pure rebellioness or a sexual desire.

Ya that's 100% bunk.

I was told growing up that being gay is a sin and that bullshit. Ya that didn't work, I wasn't corrupted nor was I being rebellious. It just happened. God decided that poof Therm is a poof

*Shrug*
I also said sexual desire did I not?
Anyways
Let's agree to disagree. I gotta call it a night

[Internationalist Bastard]

In fact, it actually seems gay marriage was a thing in medieval France, so this is a thing thats been acknowledged throughout history

I have never heard about that at all. Could I have a source, please?

Just one article, but a good read. No idea how accepted it is right now
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/517983?journalCode=jmh

[Montchevre]

Satan's armpit strikes again. Everyone has been telling me since I was five years old how powerful and advanced Brazil will be by 2005, 2010, 2020, 2050. Since I was ten I've been able to see for myself that Brazil is going nowhere. Sorry Brazil.

[Hyru1e]

I say good on you, brazil. It is a disease, in a metaphorical sense, and it needs to stop.
Guess what? When it was illegal, not many people were lgb.
When it became legal, the community grew.
It is a choice. It's not "I can't help it". People knowingly CHOSE to do wrong. It can be reversed.
And if they are under the illusion that it cannot, the least one could do is keep it to themselves, like in the good old days.

[Montchevre]

Exactly, but you don't see much which means culture plays a heavy influence on sexuality

Actually, before the invention of the Abrahamic Religions or contact with the West, multiple societies including (but not limited too) Egypt, Mesopotamia, Rome and Greece, the East Asian kingdoms, multiple Native American societies, etc... all had and accepted LGBT populations, with some countries even having legal same-sex marriages and partnerships (Both for pleasure and economic reasons).

Definitely don't minimize ancient Greece. Homosexual relations had practically no stigma. Even Alexander had a gay lover.

[Minzerland II]

I have never heard about that at all. Could I have a source, please?

Just one article, but a good read. No idea how accepted it is right now
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/517983?journalCode=jmh

I'm not sure. Besides this, I cannot find much else on the subject and I can only read the first page of the article without purchase.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I say good on you, brazil. It is a disease, in a metaphorical sense, and it needs to stop.
Guess what? When it was illegal, not many people were lgb.
When it became legal, the community grew.
It is a choice. It's not "I can't help it". People knowingly CHOSE to do wrong. It can be reversed.
And if they are under the illusion that it cannot, the least one could do is keep it to themselves, like in the good old days.

I think your behind on your medical history by several decades

[Internationalist Bastard]

Just one article, but a good read. No idea how accepted it is right now
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/517983?journalCode=jmh

I'm not sure. Besides this, I cannot find much else on the subject and I can only read the first page of the article without purchase.

Oh woops. I gotta remember where I found it before. Point is it was mentioned on the wikipedia article history of homosexuality

[Montchevre]

I say good on you, brazil. It is a disease, in a metaphorical sense, and it needs to stop.
Guess what? When it was illegal, not many people were lgb.
When it became legal, the community grew.
It is a choice. It's not "I can't help it". People knowingly CHOSE to do wrong. It can be reversed.
And if they are under the illusion that it cannot, the least one could do is keep it to themselves, like in the good old days.

And the Inquisition has arrived! Humor me to disprove your nonsensical second argument, as the first does not deserve a response. If you had aspects about you that were illegal, would you write in the census that you have them? If you had Jewish relatives in Nazi Germany, would you say you did? If you didn't believe in God in medieval Europe, would you admit that to a single soul?

No. Of course you wouldn't. Do you know why? Because those things were illegal! There has always been a considerable homosexual population, stemming back to the dawn of human society. It just seemed to vanish because its activity went underground so it wouldn't be burned at the stake by people like you, who go about spouting rhetoric on how homosexuality is a disease to be purified. You wish they would keep it to themselves, hm? Would it be overly bold for me to assume that you would be quite upset if someone told you to hide your religious practice? Don't try to take another's rights and expect to maintain your own. It's hypocritical and asinine.

[Minzerland II]

I'm not sure. Besides this, I cannot find much else on the subject and I can only read the first page of the article without purchase.

Oh woops. I gotta remember where I found it before. Point is it was mentioned on the wikipedia article history of homosexuality

I couldn't find that just yet, but I will continue looking for the article you mention.

[Petrolheadia]

I say good on you, brazil. It is a disease, in a metaphorical sense, and it needs to stop.
Guess what? When it was illegal, not many people were lgb.
When it became legal, the community grew.
It is a choice. It's not "I can't help it". People knowingly CHOSE to do wrong. It can be reversed.
And if they are under the illusion that it cannot, the least one could do is keep it to themselves, like in the good old days.

Or maybe, back then, people weren't free to say they were homosexual?

You're mistaking being able to choose to tell you're homosexual for being able to choose to be homosexual.

[Thermodolia]

I say good on you, brazil. It is a disease, in a metaphorical sense, and it needs to stop.
Guess what? When it was illegal, not many people were lgb.
When it became legal, the community grew.
It is a choice. It's not "I can't help it". People knowingly CHOSE to do wrong. It can be reversed.
And if they are under the illusion that it cannot, the least one could do is keep it to themselves, like in the good old days.

Um no. It wasn't legal in the US in the 60's yet there where still gays. It's like the law doesn't make things cease to exist.

Also I'm pretty damn sure that I can't just choose to be straight. The guy downstairs doesn't exactly get up around woman.

[Herador]

I say good on you, brazil. It is a disease, in a metaphorical sense, and it needs to stop.
Guess what? When it was illegal, not many people were lgb.
When it became legal, the community grew.
It is a choice. It's not "I can't help it". People knowingly CHOSE to do wrong. It can be reversed.
And if they are under the illusion that it cannot, the least one could do is keep it to themselves, like in the good old days.

People who write this trash seem to always have new accounts with no posts.

Gee, I wonder if there's a connection there.

[BonziNation]

I'm not sure. Besides this, I cannot find much else on the subject and I can only read the first page of the article without purchase.

Oh woops. I gotta remember where I found it before. Point is it was mentioned on the wikipedia article history of homosexuality

Point falsified. The wikipedia article in question has a warning for additional citations (implying that the article isn't really reliable). Not to mention wikipedia is just in general an unreliable source if the page doesn't have the 'good' or 'featured' indicator.

[Publica]

Oh woops. I gotta remember where I found it before. Point is it was mentioned on the wikipedia article history of homosexuality

Point falsified. The wikipedia article in question has a warning for additional citations (implying that the article isn't really reliable). Not to mention wikipedia is just in general an unreliable source if the page doesn't have the 'good' or 'featured' indicator.

Just because the Wikipedia article has been cited doesn't mean that the source is unreliable. At the very least it's reliable enough for the University of Chicago to have allowed it to be posted on a website they control.

[BonziNation]

Point falsified. The wikipedia article in question has a warning for additional citations (implying that the article isn't really reliable). Not to mention wikipedia is just in general an unreliable source if the page doesn't have the 'good' or 'featured' indicator.

Just because the Wikipedia article has been cited doesn't mean that the source is unreliable. At the very least it's reliable enough for the University of Chicago to have allowed it to be posted on a website they control.

Wow, a university cited a wikipedia article without checking if it was a verified reliable source or not. Just because a large organization posted it doesn't mean its true, it just means (in this case) they didn't check its factual integrity.

[Publica]

Just because the Wikipedia article has been cited doesn't mean that the source is unreliable. At the very least it's reliable enough for the University of Chicago to have allowed it to be posted on a website they control.

Wow, a university cited a wikipedia article without checking if it was a verified reliable source or not. Just because a large organization posted it doesn't mean its true, it just means (in this case) they didn't check its factual integrity.

No, they have the original article, the one that the Wikipedia article talked about.

[Volkmacht]

When will people get it through their skulls that being a member of the LGBT community is neither a choice nor a mental illness. 'Sexual reversion therapies'? Guess what, people. They don't work.