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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:40 pm

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San Lumen wrote:How does someone being gay affect your culture or your own manhood?


Oh thank you for the question mate direct and concise. Well before all this I dont know what my own gender is crap the past society back then was a thriving system where men made babies with women and everyone understood their biological imperative. Nowadays modern feminism has infected our culture with the result of armies of sensitive screaming SJWs that parade around in Mardi Gras in spandex underpantz telling us homosexuality should be a mainstream aspect of human society when it should be and remain a minority demographic. In Brazil their culture is hypermasculine and as someone said deeply conservative so you can know from what America is like today how SJWs will change all that.

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Postby Vanquaria » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:40 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
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Oh thank you for the question mate direct and concise. Well before all this I dont know what my own gender is crap the past society back then was a thriving system where men made babies with women and everyone understood their biological imperative. Nowadays modern feminism has infected our culture with the result of armies of sensitive screaming SJWs that parade around in Mardi Gras in spandex underpantz telling us homosexuality should be a mainstream aspect of human society when it should be and remain a minority demographic. In Brazil their culture is hypermasculine and as someone said deeply conservative so you can know from what America is like today how SJWs will change all that.

Clearly, a gay person stole his ability to use commas.


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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:43 pm

Vanquaria wrote:sensitive screaming SJWs that parade around in Mardi Gras in spandex underpantz telling us homosexuality should be a mainstream aspect of human society.

And all heterosexuals are racist white dudes who keep screaming "God Hates Fags" during funerals.

See? I can generalize too.

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Who are you to judge someone for being who they are? You can't treat something that isn't a disease. There is nothing wrong with being gay. Its not a disease or mental disorder. Should LGBT people not be allowed to marry or adopt children and be denied service from a business?

Never judged anyone as of yet, except for your jumping to conclusions, so what? If it's culturally unacceptable, then it's unacceptable. Let the country do what it wants. If gays feel oppressed there, then they should leave. I mean even if they passed gay supporting laws the culture will stay anti-gay, so regardless they'll be bullied, oppressed, or hurt. The best thing for them to do is just leave.
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Suppose Brasil had allowed to treat being a christian (or a fascist for some other posters) as a disease -with the cure prescribed being a torture camp that has been shown not to work, but to cause significant harm to the people exposed to it.

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If their endangered they should leave, before that happens.

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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:45 pm

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Anywhere Else But Here wrote:Clearly, a gay person stole his ability to use commas.


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See, it's full stops or nothing.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:47 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Vanquaria wrote:sensitive screaming SJWs that parade around in Mardi Gras in spandex underpantz telling us homosexuality should be a mainstream aspect of human society.

And all heterosexuals are racist white dudes who keep screaming "God Hates Fags" during funerals.

See? I can generalize too.

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Never judged anyone as of yet, except for your jumping to conclusions, so what? If it's culturally unacceptable, then it's unacceptable. Let the country do what it wants. If gays feel oppressed there, then they should leave. I mean even if they passed gay supporting laws the culture will stay anti-gay, so regardless they'll be bullied, oppressed, or hurt. The best thing for them to do is just leave.

*shrug*
If their endangered they should leave, before that happens.

Good idea. We all know emigration does not cost a dime, is easy from the legal side and does not require leaving most of your life behind.

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Seems to me you misunderstood me. What I'm saying is their life is endangered and should likely leave for safety reasons. The Brazilian governments not going to listened to their bitching and moaning on rights and stuff.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:48 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:And all heterosexuals are racist white dudes who keep screaming "God Hates Fags" during funerals.

See? I can generalize too.


Good idea. We all know emigration does not cost a dime, is easy from the legal side and does not require leaving most of your life behind.

/sarcasm

Seems to me you misunderstood me. What I'm saying is their life is endangered and should likely leave for safety reasons. The Brazilian governments not going to listened to their bitching and moaning on rights and stuff.

So fuck everyone I got mine?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:49 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:And all heterosexuals are racist white dudes who keep screaming "God Hates Fags" during funerals.

See? I can generalize too.


Good idea. We all know emigration does not cost a dime, is easy from the legal side and does not require leaving most of your life behind.

/sarcasm

Seems to me you misunderstood me. What I'm saying is their life is endangered and should likely leave for safety reasons. The Brazilian governments not going to listened to their bitching and moaning on rights and stuff.

why should every LGBT person have to leave Brazil? Same sex marriage and adoption is legal there and the government has far more important things to worry about.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Seems to me you misunderstood me. What I'm saying is their life is endangered and should likely leave for safety reasons. The Brazilian governments not going to listened to their bitching and moaning on rights and stuff.

why should every LGBT person have to leave Brazil? Same sex marriage and adoption is legal there and the government has far more important things to worry about.

If the law is as evil as you imply it is, then shouldn't they leave for safety reasons? Or are you simply just dubbing this law as evil?
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:52 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:why should every LGBT person have to leave Brazil? Same sex marriage and adoption is legal there and the government has far more important things to worry about.

If the law is as evil as you imply it is, then shouldn't they leave for safety reasons? Or are you simply just dubbing this law as evil?

Maybe change it?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:52 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:why should every LGBT person have to leave Brazil? Same sex marriage and adoption is legal there and the government has far more important things to worry about.

If the law is as evil as you imply it is, then shouldn't they leave for safety reasons? Or are you simply just dubbing this law as evil?

No law was passed here. It was a court ruling.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:55 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:If the law is as evil as you imply it is, then shouldn't they leave for safety reasons? Or are you simply just dubbing this law as evil?

Maybe change it?

And how many years will that take?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:If the law is as evil as you imply it is, then shouldn't they leave for safety reasons? Or are you simply just dubbing this law as evil?

No law was passed here. It was a court ruling.

But if it is a evil as your making it out as then why shouldn't they just leave? Brazil is very conservative I doubt they'll listen to you complain.
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Postby Segral » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:57 pm

They should probably just leave Brazil. It's obvious that no one's going to help them, psychologists are trying to hypnotize them, and a lot of them are stabbed and shot at. Go to someplace that doesn't consider homosexuality a disease.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:00 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No law was passed here. It was a court ruling.

But if it is a evil as your making it out as then why shouldn't they just leave? Brazil is very conservative I doubt they'll listen to you complain.


The government has shown zero desire to recriminalize homosexuality or make same sex marriage and adoption illegal again. I really don't get your argument of just leave. If Brazil was like Russia that would be a ok argument to make.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:01 pm

Segral wrote:They should probably just leave Brazil. It's obvious that no one's going to help them, psychologists are trying to hypnotize them, and a lot of them are stabbed and shot at. Go to someplace that doesn't consider homosexuality a disease.


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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:01 pm

Segral wrote:They should probably just leave Brazil. It's obvious that no one's going to help them, psychologists are trying to hypnotize them, and a lot of them are stabbed and shot at. Go to someplace that doesn't consider homosexuality a disease.


"Let's leave our homes and go to some foriegn place that we may not even speak the language of and we'll have to adapt to a whole new society! Yeah! I'm down!"

I mean, granted, that didn't stop the Chinese, or hell, the German republicans before them, the Irish, but, still. It's 2017.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:01 pm

Segral wrote:They should probably just leave Brazil. It's obvious that no one's going to help them, psychologists are trying to hypnotize them, and a lot of them are stabbed and shot at. Go to someplace that doesn't consider homosexuality a disease.

Can you provide a source for that? The government and many Brazilians don't consider it a disease.

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Postby Segral » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:03 pm

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Segral wrote:They should probably just leave Brazil. It's obvious that no one's going to help them, psychologists are trying to hypnotize them, and a lot of them are stabbed and shot at. Go to someplace that doesn't consider homosexuality a disease.


"Let's leave our homes and go to some foriegn place that we may not even speak the language of and we'll have to adapt to a whole new society! Yeah! I'm down!"

I mean, granted, that didn't stop the Chinese, or hell, the German republicans before them, the Irish, but, still. It's 2017.


While I understand your point, emigrating is in the best interest of Brazilian homosexual communities, to protect their safety and rights.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:But if it is a evil as your making it out as then why shouldn't they just leave? Brazil is very conservative I doubt they'll listen to you complain.


The government has shown zero desire to recriminalize homosexuality or make same sex marriage and adoption illegal again. I really don't get your argument of just leave. If Brazil was like Russia that would be a ok argument to make.

Regardless this court ruling is prejudice against gays right? If it's so bad as you make it out to be (torture, and stuff). Then shouldn't they leave?
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Postby Segral » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Segral wrote:They should probably just leave Brazil. It's obvious that no one's going to help them, psychologists are trying to hypnotize them, and a lot of them are stabbed and shot at. Go to someplace that doesn't consider homosexuality a disease.

Can you provide a source for that? The government and many Brazilians don't consider it a disease.


When I wrote that statement, I based it off this federal court ruling, that, along with the high homicide rates of Brazilian homosexuals, seems to imply that many still do think that homosexuality is wrong.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:05 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
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The government has shown zero desire to recriminalize homosexuality or make same sex marriage and adoption illegal again. I really don't get your argument of just leave. If Brazil was like Russia that would be a ok argument to make.

Regardless this court ruling is prejudice against gays right? If it's so bad as you make it out to be (torture, and stuff). Then shouldn't they leave?

I don't disagree that the ruling is bad. But why should they leave their cities and everything they've ever known and go to a country where they don't speak the language and the culture is totally different. And what about the 20 percent of LGBT couples in Brazil who have children?

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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:06 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The government has shown zero desire to recriminalize homosexuality or make same sex marriage and adoption illegal again. I really don't get your argument of just leave. If Brazil was like Russia that would be a ok argument to make.

Regardless this court ruling is prejudice against gays right? If it's so bad as you make it out to be (torture, and stuff). Then shouldn't they leave?

No. Then the law should be changed ASAP for one that does not impact anybody's human rights.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:07 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Regardless this court ruling is prejudice against gays right? If it's so bad as you make it out to be (torture, and stuff). Then shouldn't they leave?

No. Then the law should be changed ASAP for one that does not impact anybody's human rights.

But brazil is conservative, and your majority is conservative, so I see no court ruling change in a long time.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Regardless this court ruling is prejudice against gays right? If it's so bad as you make it out to be (torture, and stuff). Then shouldn't they leave?

I don't disagree that the ruling is bad. But why should they leave their cities and everything they've ever known and go to a country where they don't speak the language and the culture is totally different. And what about the 20 percent of LGBT couples in Brazil who have children?

Because their life is endangered, and they'll not likely change this for awhile.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:11 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I don't disagree that the ruling is bad. But why should they leave their cities and everything they've ever known and go to a country where they don't speak the language and the culture is totally different. And what about the 20 percent of LGBT couples in Brazil who have children?

Because their life is endangered, and they'll not likely change this for awhile.


Its not quite the same as it is in Uganda and Nigeria. Your basically saying they should all just give up and leave. Where do you suggest they all go?
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