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European Jihadi's, what do?

Lobby for their extradition to their home countries.
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9%
Lobby to prevent the death penalty being applied.
17
11%
Lobby for some to be returned, and some to remain, based on some criteria.
15
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Allow local judiciaries to decide their fate.
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Total votes : 154

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Iyanden
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Postby Iyanden » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:04 am

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Iyanden wrote:The communist stasi Merkel placed on the internet only targets right wing people that criticised her policies mainly on immigration they didn't even need to say anything racist. I am not Christian but looking at Poland and Hungary I see it's obviously not all Christians bending over. Also they not refugees once they leave Turkey the nearest safe country


I am uncertain if Turkey can be truly called safe with Erdogan in charge. But true - they are probably not in immediate danger anymore. Then again, I can imagine that the idea of having to live in tents for the next few decades (because let us be fair - the conflict is not going to end anytime soon) while the local population literally spits on you (and worse) is not the most appealing idea ever. In their shoes I sure as hell would get out of there asap.

And any Christian who turns away people asking for help.. well.. they make baby Jesus cry.

I am no Christian so I don't know but I am pretty sure its a vast religion with many branches and different ideologies and beliefs. Also the Turks aren't oppressing Syrians are they also the ones coming to the west mostly live off crime and welfare of the new arrivals from the middle east(not including old arrivals which had doctors and scientists and that) over 90 percent didn't get a job. So apart from the ones that got a job they obviously aren't grateful not to mention how they are too scared to fight for their country but don't mind rioting and fighting the law in the west. If they got jobs in Turkey or any nearby middle eastern country with a similar culture they wont need to live in tents they just come to the welfare states.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:25 am

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Iyanden wrote:Shows a lot about "cultural enrichment" of Europe of these disgusting whores want to join ISIS.

You know, there are 3/4 of a billion people living in europe.

There's bound to be a few nutballs, just based on averages.

Nonsense. Before we allowed immigration into Europe it was a paradise of morality and civility.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Galloism wrote:You know, there are 3/4 of a billion people living in europe.

There's bound to be a few nutballs, just based on averages.

Nonsense. Before we allowed immigration into Europe it was a paradise of morality and civility.

We also had unicorns roaming free, and dancing fairies that would grant wishes, but only if you wished for dancing fairies.


Are you certain that is not North Korea ? They actually do have a unicorn valley after all. And mountains where seamonsters can show respect to the Great Leader.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:31 am

Crime will rise when the people are in poverty and aren't getting the help they should. Yes, some refugees may have gotten help, but the majority are still living in very unhealthy, unsafe conditions. And Europe isn't getting Islamized.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:32 am

Sorry for the threadjack
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Postby Iyanden » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
Galloism wrote:You know, there are 3/4 of a billion people living in europe.

There's bound to be a few nutballs, just based on averages.

Nonsense. Before we allowed immigration into Europe it was a paradise of morality and civility.

We also had unicorns roaming free, and dancing fairies that would grant wishes, but only if you wished for dancing fairies.

Not all immigration is bad look at the Tibetan community and they escaped real oppression

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Postby Iyanden » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:16 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Crime will rise when the people are in poverty and aren't getting the help they should. Yes, some refugees may have gotten help, but the majority are still living in very unhealthy, unsafe conditions. And Europe isn't getting Islamized.

Major cities and areas in Europe is getting Islamised. Also most of them aren't refugees as they aren't in the nearest safe country such as Turkey and 80 percent aren't Syrian. Why aren't rich Arab oil states helping them since they have the same culture why does Europe have to deal with it

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:51 am

Iyanden wrote:Major cities and areas in Europe is getting Islamised.

Proof
Iyanden wrote:Also most of them aren't refugees as they aren't in the nearest safe country such as Turkey

Because Turkey doesn't want them for some reason
Iyanden wrote:and 80 percent aren't Syrian.

Ok?
Iyanden wrote:Why aren't rich Arab oil states helping them since they have the same culture why does Europe have to deal with it

They are
Also, to say that all the ME countries share a common culture is a gross misconception. Each country has their own history and culture, the whole region isn't some hemogenic group.
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Postby BonziNation » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:42 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Crime will rise when the people are in poverty and aren't getting the help they should. Yes, some refugees may have gotten help, but the majority are still living in very unhealthy, unsafe conditions. And Europe isn't getting Islamized.


Good, I wouldn't like that Europe turns into Europastan.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:59 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Crime will rise when the people are in poverty and aren't getting the help they should.


Define poverty. Most thefts by muslims in Europe seems to be aimed at obtaining luxury goods like Nikes, jewellery, scooters or flatscreen tvs- not out of necessity to feed oneself. And I do not understand how poverty causes sexcrimes.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:13 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Crime will rise when the people are in poverty and aren't getting the help they should.


Define poverty. Most thefts by muslims in Europe seems to be aimed at obtaining luxury goods like Nikes, jewellery, scooters or flatscreen tvs- not out of necessity to feed oneself. And I do not understand how poverty causes sexcrimes.

You might want to replace 'Muslim' with 'refugee' there. And you should know what poverty means.
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Postby BonziNation » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:01 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Define poverty. Most thefts by muslims in Europe seems to be aimed at obtaining luxury goods like Nikes, jewellery, scooters or flatscreen tvs- not out of necessity to feed oneself. And I do not understand how poverty causes sexcrimes.

You might want to replace 'Muslim' with 'refugee' there. And you should know what poverty means.


Most if not all refugees coming in from the middle east are Muslim.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:07 pm

BonziNation wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:You might want to replace 'Muslim' with 'refugee' there. And you should know what poverty means.


Most if not all refugees coming in from the middle east are Muslim.


And what does this have to do with a sixteen year old German girl under threat of execution for joining ISIS?
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:09 pm

Torrocca wrote:
BonziNation wrote:
Most if not all refugees coming in from the middle east are Muslim.


And what does this have to do with a sixteen year old German girl under threat of execution for joining ISIS?

Clearly she is an undercover Arab. So undercover her father is now shouting "YOU WHORE!" to her mother.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:01 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
And what does this have to do with a sixteen year old German girl under threat of execution for joining ISIS?

Clearly she is an undercover Arab. So undercover her father is now shouting "YOU WHORE!" to her mother.

So a triple agent with a touch of Manchurian candidate?
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:07 pm

Benuty wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Clearly she is an undercover Arab. So undercover her father is now shouting "YOU WHORE!" to her mother.

So a triple agent with a touch of Manchurian candidate?

Planted in her mother by her biological Islamist father. /s
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Postby VoVoDoCo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:55 pm

I'm not for the death penalty, but I have to respect Iraq's call on this one.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:00 pm

They joined Daesh a thousand miles away and are responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocents, including true Muslims, and should be dealt with by the people they were going to kill. Let the Iraqis decide their fate. Germany, or any other country for that matter, shouldn't have any say in it.
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