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ISIS member, German girl of 16, faces death penalty in Iraq.

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European Jihadi's, what do?

Lobby for their extradition to their home countries.
14
9%
Lobby to prevent the death penalty being applied.
17
11%
Lobby for some to be returned, and some to remain, based on some criteria.
15
10%
Allow local judiciaries to decide their fate.
108
70%
 
Total votes : 154

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New haven america
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Postby New haven america » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:39 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Herador wrote:Promise someone power and a place to belong and you might just be able to get them to do anything.

Still, from a group well known for being very oppressive toward women, I dunno, the fact they would join is so odd

Well here's the thing, in a lot of cases the women that join don't think that they're going to be oppressed. Generally their thought process would be akin to "Oh, I know they oppress, abuse, and torture those other girls, but they'd never do that to me."
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:41 pm

New haven america wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Still, from a group well known for being very oppressive toward women, I dunno, the fact they would join is so odd

Well here's the thing, in a lot of cases the women that join don't think that they're going to be oppressed. Generally their thought process would be akin to "Oh, I know they oppress, abuse, and torture those other girls, but they'd never do that to me."

Well, sixteen year olds make dumb choices I guess
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:43 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:She should be extradited to Germany and executed for treason.


Germany is but a sad shadow of its former greatness since 1945. It is full of weakness and fragility and as such- they can't get her back, because that'd mean she is spared. The only satisfactory outcome is for Iraq to execute this girl. Preferably by firing squad.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:44 pm

Saiwania wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:She should be extradited to Germany and executed for treason.


Germany is but a sad shadow of its former greatness since 1945. It is full of weakness and fragility and as such- they can't get her back, because that'd mean she is spared. The only satisfactory outcome is for Iraq to execute this girl. Preferably by firing squad.

Get out.

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Postby Saiwania » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:49 pm

Genivaria wrote:Get out.


The Nazi government wasn't so great for Germany but like it or not, Germany has become weak since then. If West Germany is more or less the same German government of today (only with East Germany annexed), then yes- Nazi Germany was the last time the German people truly had a martial tradition still alive and well.

It doesn't have to embrace Nazism per say, but even a return to the values of Imperial Germany (World War I) would be way better than today. I find that the Iron Cross is worth celebrating.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:50 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Get out.


The Nazi government wasn't so great for Germany but like it or not, Germany has become weak since then. If West Germany is more or less the same German government of today (only with East Germany annexed), then yes- Nazi Germany was the last time the German people truly had a martial tradition still alive and well.

Isn't Germany one of the most powerful economies in the world?
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Postby BonziNation » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:51 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Germany is but a sad shadow of its former greatness since 1945. It is full of weakness and fragility and as such- they can't get her back, because that'd mean she is spared. The only satisfactory outcome is for Iraq to execute this girl. Preferably by firing squad.

Get out.


Not liking someones opinion, so you yell at them to "get out".

Laughable.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:51 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
The Nazi government wasn't so great for Germany but like it or not, Germany has become weak since then. If West Germany is more or less the same German government of today (only with East Germany annexed), then yes- Nazi Germany was the last time the German people truly had a martial tradition still alive and well.

Isn't Germany one of the most powerful economies in the world?

Obviously GDP has nothing to do with worth, only military parades and constant flag waving make a country strong. :roll:

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Postby BonziNation » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:52 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
The Nazi government wasn't so great for Germany but like it or not, Germany has become weak since then. If West Germany is more or less the same German government of today (only with East Germany annexed), then yes- Nazi Germany was the last time the German people truly had a martial tradition still alive and well.

Isn't Germany one of the most powerful economies in the world?


He's talking culturally and militarily.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:52 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Isn't Germany one of the most powerful economies in the world?

Obviously GDP has nothing to do with worth, only military parades and constant flag waving make a country strong. :roll:

And racial purity, Saiwania likes racial purity.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:53 pm

BonziNation wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Isn't Germany one of the most powerful economies in the world?


He's talking culturally and militarily.

Being the leader of the Eurobloc seems good enough to me, but off topic
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:53 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Germany doesn't have the death penalty.

Hence should.


Germany will probably have issues with that. The last time they had the death penalty, they went a bit over-board.....

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Postby BonziNation » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:55 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:Hence should.


Germany will probably have issues with that. The last time they had the death penalty, they went a bit over-board.....


Except now they're overwhelmingly left-wing and extremely superstitious of any form of nationalism.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:55 pm

New haven america wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Obviously GDP has nothing to do with worth, only military parades and constant flag waving make a country strong. :roll:

And racial purity, Saiwania likes racial purity.

And other irrelevant things.

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Postby New haven america » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:56 pm

BonziNation wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Germany will probably have issues with that. The last time they had the death penalty, they went a bit over-board.....


Except now they're overwhelmingly left-wing and extremely superstitious of any form of nationalism.

Gee, I wonder why...
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:56 pm

BonziNation wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Germany will probably have issues with that. The last time they had the death penalty, they went a bit over-board.....


Except now they're overwhelmingly left-wing and extremely superstitious of any form of nationalism.

The first half is false and the 2nd half is good.

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Postby Saiwania » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:57 pm

BonziNation wrote:Except now they're overwhelmingly left-wing and extremely superstitious of any form of nationalism.


If Germany had its own Donald Trump and a cooperative legislative and judiciary, it could do wonders for Germany. What it has now is no good.
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Postby BonziNation » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:57 pm

Genivaria wrote:
BonziNation wrote:
Except now they're overwhelmingly left-wing and extremely superstitious of any form of nationalism.

The first half is false and the 2nd half is good.


So you're denouncing nationalism. Good to know you hate your country, please come again.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:58 pm

BonziNation wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The first half is false and the 2nd half is good.


So you're denouncing nationalism. Good to know you hate your country, please come again.

Nice bait.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:59 pm

BonziNation wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The first half is false and the 2nd half is good.


So you're denouncing nationalism. Good to know you hate your country, please come again.

Nationalism=/=Love of country
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:00 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Isn't Germany one of the most powerful economies in the world?

Obviously GDP has nothing to do with worth, only military parades and constant flag waving make a country strong. :roll:


>not the number of super carriers

I'm disappointed in you

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:02 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Obviously GDP has nothing to do with worth, only military parades and constant flag waving make a country strong. :roll:


>not the number of super carriers

I'm disappointed in you

With Germany's tiny coastline I'd say that's a lesser concern.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Get out.


The Nazi government wasn't so great for Germany but like it or not, Germany has become weak since then. If West Germany is more or less the same German government of today (only with East Germany annexed), then yes- Nazi Germany was the last time the German people truly had a martial tradition still alive and well.

It doesn't have to embrace Nazism per say, but even a return to the values of Imperial Germany (World War I) would be way better than today. I find that the Iron Cross is worth celebrating.

If only East Germany had done the reunification.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:03 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
>not the number of super carriers

I'm disappointed in you

With Germany's tiny coastline I'd say that's a lesser concern.

what is power projection?
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:04 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
>not the number of super carriers

I'm disappointed in you

With Germany's tiny coastline I'd say that's a lesser concern.


>Not trying a modern day version of the battleship race

Pls, your flag is a WW1 alternate anime, you should know this.

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