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Poll: What is Your Religion (not your nation’s)?

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If you personally subscribe to a religion, which one?

Christianity
188
37%
Islam
25
5%
Sikhism
1
0%
Bahá’í Faith
1
0%
Buddhism
24
5%
Taoism
7
1%
Wicca or Neopaganism
17
3%
Judaism
13
3%
Hinduism
4
1%
Atheism, Agnosticism, Apatheism, Deism, Ethical Humanism, Secular Humanism, Unitarian Universalism, etc.
222
44%
 
Total votes : 502

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:33 pm

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Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Thank you for the clarifications.


After he died, I'm pretty sure he's actually worshiped now though (since he's enshrined).

By his family and fans yes. In Japan the dead are worshipped by their decedents although for most people its done by a Buddhist altar while for the Emperor and his family and Shinto priests it will likely be a shrine. Death and after dead is normally handled by Buddhism

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:08 pm

Iyanden wrote:By his family and fans yes. In Japan the dead are worshipped by their decedents although for most people its done by a Buddhist altar while for the Emperor and his family and Shinto priests it will likely be a shrine. Death and after dead is normally handled by Buddhism


Yes, in Japan, a common answer to the question: Are you Shinto, Taoist, or Buddhist? would be yes. Typically, Japanese religions are not as separated as those in the West.
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Postby Volkegoth » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:25 pm

I'm Anglican as we speak, though I think that will change in the not-so-distant future.

My direct family is going Russian Orthodox, and I suppose I'm going to go with them.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:27 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Iyanden wrote:By his family and fans yes. In Japan the dead are worshipped by their decedents although for most people its done by a Buddhist altar while for the Emperor and his family and Shinto priests it will likely be a shrine. Death and after dead is normally handled by Buddhism


Yes, in Japan, a common answer to the question: Are you Shinto, Taoist, or Buddhist? would be yes. Typically, Japanese religions are not as separated as those in the West.

The same could be said for most East Asian religions. Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, Confucianism, folk religions, etc.
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Postby Zottistan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:38 pm

Haven't really thought about it in enough detail to define it but some sort of pantheist.
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Zottistan wrote:Haven't really thought about it in enough detail to define it but some sort of pantheist.

A kind of Gnosticism, maybe?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:48 pm

Volkegoth wrote:I'm Anglican as we speak, though I think that will change in the not-so-distant future.

My direct family is going Russian Orthodox, and I suppose I'm going to go with them.

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Postby War Gears » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:18 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Iyanden wrote:By his family and fans yes. In Japan the dead are worshipped by their decedents although for most people its done by a Buddhist altar while for the Emperor and his family and Shinto priests it will likely be a shrine. Death and after dead is normally handled by Buddhism


Yes, in Japan, a common answer to the question: Are you Shinto, Taoist, or Buddhist? would be yes. Typically, Japanese religions are not as separated as those in the West.


There have been tensions between Shinto and Buddhism historically though, despite the blend. This is one reason that the theory was proposed that Shinto kami were manifestations of Buddhas and bodhisattva, and was later inverted to where Buddhas, bodhisattva, and Indian deities were manifestations of kami. I think the harmonious merge between the two has been exaggerated somewhat, and at different points in history, one has dominated the other.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:59 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:The same could be said for most East Asian religions. Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, Confucianism, folk religions, etc.


Yes.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:00 pm

War Gears wrote:There have been tensions between Shinto and Buddhism historically though, despite the blend. This is one reason that the theory was proposed that Shinto kami were manifestations of Buddhas and bodhisattva, and was later inverted to where Buddhas, bodhisattva, and Indian deities were manifestations of kami. I think the harmonious merge between the two has been exaggerated somewhat, and at different points in history, one has dominated the other.


Well, I know, for instance, that Nichiren Shoshu considers itself to be the only correct form of Buddhism.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:03 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Welcome to the club!


I enjoyed the OCA (Russian Orthodox) church service I attended, including the people I met, but I sometimes wished I could sit down more often. :lol2:
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:05 pm

Volkegoth wrote:I'm Anglican as we speak, though I think that will change in the not-so-distant future.

My direct family is going Russian Orthodox, and I suppose I'm going to go with them.


There have been on-again off-again merger talks between the Anglican Communion and the Eastern Orthodox Church for some time now.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:15 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Volkegoth wrote:I'm Anglican as we speak, though I think that will change in the not-so-distant future.

My direct family is going Russian Orthodox, and I suppose I'm going to go with them.


There have been on-again off-again merger talks between the Anglican Communion and the Eastern Orthodox Church for some time now.

They've been pretty much indefinitely suspended by the Eastern Orthodox Church. As one Russian bishops said "You can't have a dialogue when the other side has committed suicide." The overwhelming opinion on our side of the dialogue is that the Anglican Communion is too far gone on theological liberalism for any further dialogue to be useful.
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I was born into a (Protestant) Christian family, and raised non-denominational Christian for most of my life. However, I am actively preparing to join the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church, from my research seems like the only true Church for any Christian to follow. I spent a lot of time researching and digging on various denominations of the Protestant sects, and always came up short of true faith or meaning behind them. The decentralized forms of Protestants, like Baptists, non-denominational and evangelicals were simply to sporadic to have and depth and the Protestant Churches that had the most centralized formalities, like the UCC, PCUSA, Lutheran and Anglican were tipping far too distant from a more basic and fundamental approach to the Bible. AKA far to liberal leaning on too many views that I saw as direct violations of the Bible. Not to mention, the foundation of Protestantism is built of off followings of some random guy that split from the Catholics and formed his own sect a few hundred years ago, and still tried to claim that they still are the "true historical Christianity" despite dropping all the historical values and beliefs and following new and cool ideas as the cropped up leaving thousands of denominations and leaving the Bible to be interpreted by anyone and they would be right. That didn't make sense to me.

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Postby War Gears » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:30 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
War Gears wrote:There have been tensions between Shinto and Buddhism historically though, despite the blend. This is one reason that the theory was proposed that Shinto kami were manifestations of Buddhas and bodhisattva, and was later inverted to where Buddhas, bodhisattva, and Indian deities were manifestations of kami. I think the harmonious merge between the two has been exaggerated somewhat, and at different points in history, one has dominated the other.


Well, I know, for instance, that Nichiren Shoshu considers itself to be the only correct form of Buddhism.


Such one upmanship wasn't uncommon among Buddhist sects, but it has little to do with the relationship between Shinto and Buddhism. Shinto believed in the existence of the soul, an underworld similar to Hades or Sheol, and normally the supremacy of the sun goddess Amaterasu. In contrast Buddhism does not believe in the concept of a soul, rejected the belief of a permanent afterlife, and saw deities as impermanent beings who died and became reincarnated no different than humans. Some sects such as Ryobu Shinto tried to branch these differences, but unconvincingly, since it died out in a few centuries and the Shinbutsu bunri happened.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:36 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:They've been pretty much indefinitely suspended by the Eastern Orthodox Church. As one Russian bishops said "You can't have a dialogue when the other side has committed suicide." The overwhelming opinion on our side of the dialogue is that the Anglican Communion is too far gone on theological liberalism for any further dialogue to be useful.


Not surprising. The Anglican communion is very progressive on social and cultural issues.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:47 pm

War Gears wrote:Such one upmanship wasn't uncommon among Buddhist sects, but it has little to do with the relationship between Shinto and Buddhism. Shinto believed in the existence of the soul, an underworld similar to Hades or Sheol, and normally the supremacy of the sun goddess Amaterasu. In contrast Buddhism does not believe in the concept of a soul, rejected the belief of a permanent afterlife, and saw deities as impermanent beings who died and became reincarnated no different than humans. Some sects such as Ryobu Shinto tried to branch these differences, but unconvincingly, since it died out in a few centuries and the Shinbutsu bunri happened.


There are three quasi-theistic branches of Buddhism: Won Buddhism, Risshō Kōsei-kai, and Perbuddhi. They are, to varying degrees, controversial.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:56 pm

Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio wrote:I consider myself a Christian, Protestant, United Methodist. I am also an agnostic theist (although I have been an agnostic atheist many times). Although (some) others who consider themselves Christians consider me a cultist and/or deist.


Why a cultist?
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:59 am

Krumolia wrote:Agnostic Atheist (former Eastern Orthodox Christian). As a rule, I do not care about the beliefs of individuals so long as they do not use them as an excuse to infringe on other people's rights and/or establish a theocracy (e.g. Iran, Saudi Arabia).


Agnostic atheism is also sometimes called weak atheism. Strong atheism would include the new atheism of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and others.
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Postby Arthemesia » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:01 am

It prides me to see which group is winning in the poll.
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Postby Arthemesia » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:03 am

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Krumolia wrote:Agnostic Atheist (former Eastern Orthodox Christian). As a rule, I do not care about the beliefs of individuals so long as they do not use them as an excuse to infringe on other people's rights and/or establish a theocracy (e.g. Iran, Saudi Arabia).


Agnostic atheism is also sometimes called weak atheism. Strong atheism would include the new atheism of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and others.

That is the good Atheism. We need strong resolute beliefs and steadfast believers if we wish to compete against religion in its many forms.
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Postby Krumolia » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:16 am

Maybe. To be honest, I believe that in the grand scheme of things religious discussions are irrelevant as the only way we can find out whether afterlife exists or not is only after we die (at least for now). However, my main issue with religion is its trend to stigmatise all those who do not follow it to the letter.
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