Northern Japan under air raid as NK fires another missile

[Trumptonium]

North Korea has just fired a missile whose track is going to be close to northern Japan (north Honshu and Hokkaido) and residents have been alerted to take shelter immediately.

The missile was fired from Pyongyang and has not yet reached a discernible destination. It is unknown what kind of missile it was and whether it was fully armed.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ific-ocean

Japan, once again, will not attempt to shoot down the missile, for reasons unknown.

Does this increase the tensions, or have we already reached a topping off where we just don't know what to do and this is another one in the series of provocations, and certainly not the last?

[Blairwood]

Holy shit. They wouldn't nuke Japan, would they?

I hope they don't.

[Vassenor]

North Korea has just fired a missile whose track is going to be close to northern Japan (north Honshu and Hokkaido) and residents have been alerted to take shelter immediately.

The missile was fired from Pyongyang and has not yet reached a discernible destination. It is unknown what kind of missile it was and whether it was fully armed.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ific-ocean

Japan, once again, will not attempt to shoot down the missile, for reasons unknown.

Does this increase the tensions, or have we already reached a topping off where we just don't know what to do and this is another one in the series of provocations, and certainly not the last?

According to your source it hit the ocean. More posturing.

[Trumptonium]

North Korea has just fired a missile whose track is going to be close to northern Japan (north Honshu and Hokkaido) and residents have been alerted to take shelter immediately.

The missile was fired from Pyongyang and has not yet reached a discernible destination. It is unknown what kind of missile it was and whether it was fully armed.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ific-ocean

Japan, once again, will not attempt to shoot down the missile, for reasons unknown.

Does this increase the tensions, or have we already reached a topping off where we just don't know what to do and this is another one in the series of provocations, and certainly not the last?

According to your source it hit the ocean. More posturing.

...it didn't hit anything yet, that's why it's news. It's in the air. For a few more minutes after this post. Japan just said that this is where they predict it will go.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ed-missile

South Korea simply said it's on it's way East.

aaand now it's somewhere in the ocean.

[Oldenfranck]

So North Korea's missiles fail every now and then, and crash earlier than expected. So what happens when the inevitable occurs, and one stalls over the Japanese mainland and crashes? With a general warhead, it would kill, and even without one, it could still hit someone or fall on a building and hit people, or catch on fire with its additional fuel and kill people. Is that the red line for war? Make no mistake, it could be tomorrow, or it could be 5 years from now, but it will probably happen sooner or later. What happens then?

[Vassenor]

According to your source it hit the ocean. More posturing.

...it didn't hit anything yet, that's why it's news. It's in the air. For a few more minutes after this post. Japan just said that this is where they predict it will go.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ed-missile

South Korea simply said it's on it's way East.

aaand now it's somewhere in the ocean.

Japan’s public broadcaster NHK said the missile passed over the northern island of Hokkaido ans landed in the Pacific about 2,000 km east of Japan. The government said there was no danger to people or shipping rom missile debris.

[Trumptonium]

...it didn't hit anything yet, that's why it's news. It's in the air. For a few more minutes after this post. Japan just said that this is where they predict it will go.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ed-missile

South Korea simply said it's on it's way East.

aaand now it's somewhere in the ocean.

Japan’s public broadcaster NHK said the missile passed over the northern island of Hokkaido ans landed in the Pacific about 2,000 km east of Japan. The government said there was no danger to people or shipping rom missile debris.

Yes ... NHK which I have on a life feed literally released that statement a few seconds after I made the reply to you.

It's real-time, no need to be patrionising, this isn't something that has happened 300 years ago and I'm talking from hindsight. Less than 10 minutes ago that missile didn't even leave the ground.

[Nazeroth]

So North Korea's missiles fail every now and then, and crash earlier than expected. So what happens when the inevitable occurs, and one stalls over the Japanese mainland and crashes? With a general warhead, it would kill, and even without one, it could still hit someone or fall on a building and hit people, or catch on fire with its additional fuel and kill people. Is that the red line for war? Make no mistake, it could be tomorrow, or it could be 5 years from now, but it will probably happen sooner or later. What happens then?

NK will have to be dealt with eventually(shit, they are one of the worst places in the world and their human rights abuses are just skyhigh). If there was a war to be justified it would be to finish that pyschotic hereditary dictatorship..

[Vistulange]

My general idea of a "solution" about the Hermit Kingdom and its perpetual racketeering scheme is to develop missile defence in South Korea and Japan, increase sanctions and most importantly: Block any and all the aid going into the country. None of that aid is actually being used to feed the people, instead being used by the regime to prop itself up. It's a gamble, but you only need to take it if you want to "solve" the North Korean dilemma.

[Aethrys]

Holy shit. They wouldn't nuke Japan, would they?

I hope they don't.

NK recently declared an intention to "Sink" Japan and said something to the effect that the Japanese islands should no longer be located near them.

[Community Values]

If I'm not mistaken, a North Korean Missile would have to travel above Hokkaido to hit California, right? What happens when one of those missiles goes four thousand miles further east?
I swear, they are testing this shit so that when they actually decide to fuck the world up, they at least knock down as many "American Imperialists" as possible.

[Sekund Norge]

And what is the UN going to do now? More "diplomatic" solutions by sanctions?

[Community Values]

And what is the UN going to do now? More "diplomatic" solutions by sanctions?

Sanctions are by no means diplomatic, especially the current UN resolution circulating right now.

[Varkina]

Is China ever going to stop their so called 'ally'?

[Nazeroth]

Is China ever going to stop their so called 'ally'?

If i was china I would have invaded/couped NK and installed a modern Maoist government.

[Blairwood]

Holy shit. They wouldn't nuke Japan, would they?

I hope they don't.

NK recently declared an intention to "Sink" Japan and said something to the effect that the Japanese islands should no longer be located near them.

Oh, shit.

aaand now it's somewhere in the ocean.

That is a relief.

Is China ever going to stop their so called 'ally'?

Other then constantly condemning them for missile tests and inner talks to stop propping up there there buffer state?

[Community Values]

Is China ever going to stop their so called 'ally'?

If i was china I would have invaded/couped NK and installed a modern Maoist government.

If I was China I would have ended the one party state and liberalized the economy, while giving the people civil liberties.

[NERVUN]

Is China ever going to stop their so called 'ally'?

If i was china I would have invaded/couped NK and installed a modern Maoist government.

China has no wish to send hordes of North Korean refugees into China nor destabilize it enough to cause reunification with South Korea and end up with a US ally sharing a border.

[The Grene Knyght]

I'd imagine the reason they didn't shoot it down would be because they knew where it was headed. I'd further imagine that, assuming thats true, the reason they told their citizens to take shelter despite the fact that they knew it wasn't on a trajectory to hit them (assuming they did say that, since I didn't see it mentioned in the source provided), was to ramp the fear of the regime so that there would be less pushback from their citizens when they ramp up the sanctions.

[Cedoria]

Is China ever going to stop their so called 'ally'?

If i was china I would have invaded/couped NK and installed a modern Maoist government.

China has over 1 billion people to feed/house/clothe already. They don't need the cost of another 20 million brain-dead NK zombies.

Anybody who seriously suggests this option betrays the fact they have no idea what they're talking about. Sorry, but it's just not practical for them to do that.

[Varkina]

NK recently declared an intention to "Sink" Japan and said something to the effect that the Japanese islands should no longer be located near them.

Oh, shit.

aaand now it's somewhere in the ocean.

That is a relief.

Is China ever going to stop their so called 'ally'?

Other then constantly condemning them for missile tests and inner talks to stop propping up there there buffer state?

I think China should form a temporary alliance with America, South Korea, and Japan. To deal with North Korea.

[The of Japan]

If i was china I would have invaded/couped NK and installed a modern Maoist government.

China has over 1 billion people to feed/house/clothe already. They don't need the cost of another 20 million brain-dead NK zombies.

Anybody who seriously suggests this option betrays the fact they have no idea what they're talking about. Sorry, but it's just not practical for them to do that.

They will have to deal with the North Korean problem sooner or later, the kim dynasty wont last.

[Nazeroth]

If i was china I would have invaded/couped NK and installed a modern Maoist government.

China has over 1 billion people to feed/house/clothe already. They don't need the cost of another 20 million brain-dead NK zombies.

Anybody who seriously suggests this option betrays the fact they have no idea what they're talking about. Sorry, but it's just not practical for them to do that.

Hey just throwing it out there, I think an internal coup would be best.

Or are we going to spend another 40-50 years looking at little kims becoming big kims...

[Trumptonium]

If I'm not mistaken, a North Korean Missile would have to travel above Hokkaido to hit California, right?

I'm not sure about the geography of the area but like airplanes, missiles travel on the Earth's spherical arcs and not in a straight line (from a flat map perspective), so it probably won't and will actually fly closer to Alaska. But I might be severely overestimating the distance.

[Community Values]

China has over 1 billion people to feed/house/clothe already. They don't need the cost of another 20 million brain-dead NK zombies.

Anybody who seriously suggests this option betrays the fact they have no idea what they're talking about. Sorry, but it's just not practical for them to do that.

They will have to deal with the North Korean problem sooner or later, the kim dynasty wont last.

They will if supported by the Chinese and Russians. Since the Chinese would hurt the most from the fall of the Kims, I don't think they would support anything other than verbal denunciations.