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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:11 pm

The world should care because the murder of thousands of people is a tragedy. That worse has happened before and since doesn't change the fact that it was a tragic event which kicked off a series of horrible other events.

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Postby Sovaal » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Not really going to take anyone with the sig "America is the great satan" seriously.

Yeah, we get it, we're Satan. Hoorah.

Satan is great with parties. Hoorah!

And we were finally able got back at our bitch boyfriend Saddam!
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Postby Hakons » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:23 pm

That sig... it burns my eyes...

How can one claim Jesus is king yet condemn the nation with the most Christians as the "Great Satan"?
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:39 pm

Hakons wrote:That sig... it burns my eyes...

How can one claim Jesus is king yet condemn the nation with the most Christians as the "Great Satan"?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Same way he thinks the DPRK is freer then America I would think.
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”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Iridencia » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:56 pm

a) Because the Twin Towers hosted international business that effected other countries' economies.

b) Because the people who were killed had nothing to do with America's actions, they were just normal powerless citizens.

You don't mourn 9/11 because you like America, you mourn it because those were innocent human lives that were taken. Don't waltz in here and lecture us about morality and the proper way to care about the dead when you clearly only give a shit about human life when it lines up with your political views. "Oh, normal harmless people will killed? But do I like their government?" Who the fuck cares? People are people no matter where they come from, and the murder of innocents cannot and will not ever be solved with the murder of more innocents. The 9/11 victims didn't kill across seas, they didn't have shit "coming to them" - people are individuals, not their country.

You have zero moral high ground here. It's quite stunning.

Sunstruck wrote:It's not really that important. Only about three thousand people were killed. War is raging in the world, and thousands die of hunger every day, but rarely anyone bats an eye.
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Postby Kennlind » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:26 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Kennlind wrote:So objective fact is conspiracy now...?


Um no saying that Al-qaeda allegedly hit the pentagon is not an objective fact. They did in fact hit the pentagon

If you insist.

Iridencia wrote:a) Because the Twin Towers hosted international business that effected other countries' economies.

b) Because the people who were killed had nothing to do with America's actions, they were just normal powerless citizens.

You don't mourn 9/11 because you like America, you mourn it because those were innocent human lives that were taken. Don't waltz in here and lecture us about morality and the proper way to care about the dead when you clearly only give a shit about human life when it lines up with your political views. "Oh, normal harmless people will killed? But do I like their government?" Who the fuck cares? People are people no matter where they come from, and the murder of innocents cannot and will not ever be solved with the murder of more innocents. The 9/11 victims didn't kill across seas, they didn't have shit "coming to them" - people are individuals, not their country.

You have zero moral high ground here. It's quite stunning.

Sunstruck wrote:It's not really that important. Only about three thousand people were killed. War is raging in the world, and thousands die of hunger every day, but rarely anyone bats an eye.
Meh.


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Nice 2009 top text bottom text meme thats epic LOLOLOLOL!
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Postby Kennlind » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:27 am

Oldenfranck wrote:OP is a Russian Troll.

Wrong! I'm a Soros paid troll. Nice try!
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Postby Kennlind » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:27 am

Major-Tom wrote:Not really going to take anyone with the sig "America is the great satan" seriously.

Yeah, we get it, we're Satan. Hoorah.

Not gonna take anyone with pro-marijuana or pro-keynesian in their sig seriously either.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:31 am

ALLAH SOURIA BASHAR
Gaddafi and Saddam killed for fighting the NWO
Stand with Assad and Kim Jong-un against the Great Satan!
¡Viva Cuba y Fidel! - ¡Patria o Muerte, Venceremos!Abortion is Murder, America is the Great Satan, and Jesus is the only King
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you literally put these in your signature. you either have no idea who any of these people are, or you're just a troll. you're in no place to claim you're
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:39 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
ALLAH SOURIA BASHAR
Gaddafi and Saddam killed for fighting the NWO
Stand with Assad and Kim Jong-un against the Great Satan!
¡Viva Cuba y Fidel! - ¡Patria o Muerte, Venceremos!Abortion is Murder, America is the Great Satan, and Jesus is the only King
Clasaichean-obrach den t-saoghail tig còmhla!
Far-Left Socialist (?), Proletarian Feminist, Scottish Nationalist
Anti-American Agitator, #BLACKLIVESMATTER



you literally put these in your signature. you either have no idea who any of these people are, or you're just a troll. you're in no place to claim you're
Kennlind wrote:Not gonna take anyone with pro-marijuana or pro-keynesian in their sig seriously either.

Knock it off. If you think someone's trolling, report them in Moderation.
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Postby Kennlind » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:52 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
ALLAH SOURIA BASHAR
Gaddafi and Saddam killed for fighting the NWO
Stand with Assad and Kim Jong-un against the Great Satan!
¡Viva Cuba y Fidel! - ¡Patria o Muerte, Venceremos!Abortion is Murder, America is the Great Satan, and Jesus is the only King
Clasaichean-obrach den t-saoghail tig còmhla!
Far-Left Socialist (?), Proletarian Feminist, Scottish Nationalist
Anti-American Agitator, #BLACKLIVESMATTER



you literally put these in your signature. you either have no idea who any of these people are, or you're just a troll. you're in no place to claim you're
Kennlind wrote:Not gonna take anyone with pro-marijuana or pro-keynesian in their sig seriously either.

Gaddafi and Saddam were great people who fought and were martyred by Imperialists
Assad and Kim Jong-un are fighting them, and know not to make the mistakes that Saddam and Gaddafi did
Fidel Castro is resisting the US and fascism on their doorstep.
Keep making personal attacks against me, I've shown in thread after thread that my arguments are based on objective fact and you can't argue me so instead you attack me. Sad.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:58 am

Kennlind wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:
ALLAH SOURIA BASHAR
Gaddafi and Saddam killed for fighting the NWO
Stand with Assad and Kim Jong-un against the Great Satan!
¡Viva Cuba y Fidel! - ¡Patria o Muerte, Venceremos!Abortion is Murder, America is the Great Satan, and Jesus is the only King
Clasaichean-obrach den t-saoghail tig còmhla!
Far-Left Socialist (?), Proletarian Feminist, Scottish Nationalist
Anti-American Agitator, #BLACKLIVESMATTER



you literally put these in your signature. you either have no idea who any of these people are, or you're just a troll. you're in no place to claim you're

Gaddafi and Saddam were great people who fought and were martyred by Imperialists
Assad and Kim Jong-un are fighting them, and know not to make the mistakes that Saddam and Gaddafi did

I guess that killing ethnic minorities and political dissidents makes some one a great person so long as they are anti-American, huh?

Fidel Castro is resisting the US and fascism on their doorstep.

First off, Castro is dead.
Second, I would say the one party state that is Cuba is far closer to fascism then the US is.

Keep making personal attacks against me, I've shown in thread after thread that my arguments are based on objective fact and you can't argue me so instead you attack me. Sad.

No, you haven't. All you do is spout conspiracy theory nonsense and demand people look up proof supporting your own arguement themselves.

Anyway, none of this is related to your thread.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Pilarcraft » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:02 am

I'm not going to continue this, but since you seem to actually think you know wtf you're saying fine.
Gaddafi and Saddam, both, showed most of the red-flags of pre-pinochet Fascism (totalitarian, made everything state-planned, Hyper-nationalistic, extra patriarchal, really really homophobic, and put Jews and Iranians (respectively) as "The Other", claiming only they could stop these threats.) Saddam had been trying to invade and commit genocide on Iran even before the Revolution. Gaddafi fucked up the Jews of Libya so much they literally escaped so they wouldn't die.

Assad also shows most of those signs, just making the Jews 'the Other' and being ultra-racist to kurds and Yezidis. I don't even tihnk I need to talk about Kim.

I'm not sure Fidel is that bad, and even though he's really authoritarian I don't have much against him except for that so I wouldn't say.

All you've shown on this thread and the Shia in Pyongyang one is that you're, first and foremost, a troll and nothing more.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:04 am

Pilarcraft wrote:I'm not going to continue this, but since you seem to actually think you know wtf you're saying fine.
Gaddafi and Saddam, both, showed most of the red-flags of pre-pinochet Fascism (totalitarian, made everything state-planned, Hyper-nationalistic, extra patriarchal, really really homophobic, and put Jews and Iranians (respectively) as "The Other", claiming only they could stop these threats.) Saddam had been trying to invade and commit genocide on Iran even before the Revolution. Gaddafi fucked up the Jews of Libya so much they literally escaped so they wouldn't die.

Assad also shows most of those signs, just making the Jews 'the Other' and being ultra-racist to kurds and Yezidis. I don't even tihnk I need to talk about Kim.

I'm not sure Fidel is that bad, and even though he's really authoritarian I don't have much against him except for that so I wouldn't say.

All you've shown on this thread and the Shia in Pyongyang one is that you're, first and foremost, a troll and nothing more.

Did I or did I not tell you to knock off the troll-naming? *** Warned for troll-naming. ***

This thread's dissolving into troll-naming and little else. I'm locking it, with prejudice, so do not repost it.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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