A Shia in North Korea

[Robosia]

There is freedom of religion in North Korea.

[Tokora]

Objectively incorrect. It's a theocratic totalitarian dictatorship.

Glad you finally figured out what North Korea is.

I was under the impression a black man had won the office of President....hmmm....

The President isn't black silly, HE'S ORANGE!

Shia's don't have missionaries and don't believe in it, so I would guess he wouldn't get much support.

Muslims have missionaries.

I lean towards the DPRK, especially some of the il-Sung era social and economic policies, but this level of apoligism.....its unprecedented.

While I (kind of) respect your opinion on Kim il-Sung, wouldn't you prefer the less-repressive leadership of Josip Broz Tito?

My character would agree with this statement 1000000000000000000000%!!!

The real name of Kim Jong-il before his son rewrote the history books.

I'd say that it'd be a Shi'ite situation all around, in all honestly.

You realize that Hezbollah is going to come after you now for that crack right?

Black youths killed by fascist police.

While they might not be killing black people, you realize that North Korea also has fascist police (with a fascist everything else) right?

[Wysten]

And that is why foreign missionaries have never been detained in North Korea and worshipping the Glorious Leader Kim Jong-un is completely optional with no risk of getting exiled to a death camp at all. *facepalm*

This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.

Yeah because I can totally not say Trump is an impulsive fool with no political leanings besides his own.

[Thermodolia]

"Let's say that a faithful Islamic Iranian decides to become a missionary and tries to spread the word of Muhammad to North Korea, with predictable results. It starts with his family demanding his release eventually leading to large scale protests led by religious leaders demanding that his release be negotiated. Eventually a year later the North Korean government declares the Iranian dead. How do you think the Iranian government would handle this crisis."
Why would this happen? There is freedom of religion in North Korea.

Haheggfdachajajs

You have got to be fucking kidding me. NK is 100% atheist, you don't have the freedom to worship in NK. In fact you don't have the freedom to do anything

[Kennlind]

"Let's say that a faithful Islamic Iranian decides to become a missionary and tries to spread the word of Muhammad to North Korea, with predictable results. It starts with his family demanding his release eventually leading to large scale protests led by religious leaders demanding that his release be negotiated. Eventually a year later the North Korean government declares the Iranian dead. How do you think the Iranian government would handle this crisis."
Why would this happen? There is freedom of religion in North Korea.

Haheggfdachajajs

You have got to be fucking kidding me. NK is 100% atheist, you don't have the freedom to worship in NK. In fact you don't have the freedom to do anything

wrong. Atheists account for less than 2/3 of the population. Shamanists and Chondoists count for around 25%, and Christians and Buddhists just over 6%. There is also Muslims in North Korea, such as the Iranians at the Iranian Embassy and Jaka Parker. Nice try though!

[Wysten]

Haheggfdachajajs

You have got to be fucking kidding me. NK is 100% atheist, you don't have the freedom to worship in NK. In fact you don't have the freedom to do anything

wrong. Atheists account for less than 2/3 of the population. Shamanists and Chondoists count for around 25%, and Christians and Buddhists just over 6%. There is also Muslims in North Korea, such as the Iranians at the Iranian Embassy and Jaka Parker. Nice try though!

Lies that's just in the embassys they probably lie in order to look good in the world

[Thermodolia]

Haheggfdachajajs

You have got to be fucking kidding me. NK is 100% atheist, you don't have the freedom to worship in NK. In fact you don't have the freedom to do anything

wrong. Atheists account for less than 2/3 of the population. Shamanists and Chondoists count for around 25%, and Christians and Buddhists just over 6%. There is also Muslims in North Korea, such as the Iranians at the Iranian Embassy and Jaka Parker. Nice try though!

Ya no. Freedom of religion doesn't exist in NK. They only thing that is legal is worship of the Kim's. That's it nothing else. Of course Muslims will be at the Iranian embassy, what did you think Iranian majority religion was judaism?

If you think NK is so great go live there for a year then report back

[Thermodolia]

wrong. Atheists account for less than 2/3 of the population. Shamanists and Chondoists count for around 25%, and Christians and Buddhists just over 6%. There is also Muslims in North Korea, such as the Iranians at the Iranian Embassy and Jaka Parker. Nice try though!

Lies that's just in the embassys they probably lie in order to look good in the world

Not to mention that NK can't demand that a Muslim theocracy stop Muslims from worshipping at their own damn embassy.

[Proctopeo]

So far the only sources against "misinformation" you've provided is the constitution of the DPRK and the presence of alternate parties.
The former is meaningless in what's essentially an autocracy, and the latter can very well be puppets of the main party that pretend to be different.

They're independent parties.

[factual citation needed]

I missed this treasure the first time around.
Funny how someone who's against misinformation bought into misinformation.

Black youths killed by fascist police.

Less common than news would make you think. Also, that's not what "fascist" means.

[Kennlind]

wrong. Atheists account for less than 2/3 of the population. Shamanists and Chondoists count for around 25%, and Christians and Buddhists just over 6%. There is also Muslims in North Korea, such as the Iranians at the Iranian Embassy and Jaka Parker. Nice try though!

Lies that's just in the embassys they probably lie in order to look good in the world

Jaka Parker isn't working for any embassy. He's an independent citizen living with his family in Pyongyang.

[Wysten]

Lies that's just in the embassys they probably lie in order to look good in the world

Jaka Parker isn't working for any embassy. He's an independent citizen living with his family in Pyongyang.

Do you honestly belive that do you really believe that?

[Sovaal]

I missed this treasure the first time around.
Funny how someone who's against misinformation bought into misinformation.

Black youths killed by fascist police.

But DPRK literally having concentration camps means they're freer.

Please stop making the hard-left sound like morons. Thanks. This is by far the most absurdly stupid thing I've ever heard said on the subject...

I'm not hard left, you're just right wing.

That's as good a statement as an alt-rightist claiming that they aren't alt-right, everybody else is just a leftist.

What is it with Juche fanboys who have obviously never been to North Korea who think they can stroll into Best Korea without ending up like Otto Warmbier?

What is it with internationalist globalist warhawk neocon dick cheney fanboys

Wow, never knew the Gauth was a rightist neocon. But no, really, this is just pigeon holing.

who have obviously never been to North Korea thinking they can bomb a sovereign country just because their media says they're bad?

First off, have you ever been to North Korea? And gone outside of the areas specifically set up by the Nork government and their actors?


Second, I never been to Germany, so I guess that the Allies invading and bombing it during WW2 was wrong, huh?

I really don't see such a thing happening, but hypothetically, such a person would probably draw the ire of the Nork government.



Hahahaha. Ah man, you guys are hilarious. Yah, the three generations of political prisoners in North Korea are freer then me here in America, where I'm not even imprisoned for saying I hate the government. Just goddam that's delusional.

Read the DPRK Constitution!

Something tells me that you wouldn't accept me using the US constitution as evidence that the US is a free country, so why should I accept the Nork one as evidence that they are actually free.
Anyway, got a response that isn't just this or calling people who don't agree with you fascists or neocon war hawks?

It looks like the same person who comes here, trolls a little as a Juche fanboy, gets banned, then comes back months later with a new nation to just do the same thing.

Okay, call me a troll all you want. I know I'm right, I know you're wrong.

You sure? Because I don't think anybody here is convinced by your "arguements".

Finally! About time somebody made that clear, well done, comrade.

Comrade Kennlind is completely right, as anybody who has watched this 100 % accurate educational cartoon can testify.

Really funny.

Let me guess, "right wing neocon war hawk satanist propaganda". Tell me, how close am I?

[Wysten]

Black youths killed by fascist police.

But DPRK literally having concentration camps means they're freer.

I'm not hard left, you're just right wing.

That's as good a statement as an alt-rightist claiming that they aren't alt-right, everybody else is just a leftist.

What is it with internationalist globalist warhawk neocon dick cheney fanboys

Wow, never knew the Gauth was a rightist neocon. But no, really, this is just pigeon holing.

who have obviously never been to North Korea thinking they can bomb a sovereign country just because their media says they're bad?

First off, have you ever been to North Korea? And gone outside of the areas specifically set up by the Nork government and their actors?


Second, I never been to Germany, so I guess that the Allies invading and bombing it during WW2 was wrong, huh?

Read the DPRK Constitution!

Something tells me that you wouldn't accept me using the US constitution as evidence that the US is a free country, so why should I accept the Nork one as evidence that they are actually free.
Anyway, got a response that isn't just this or calling people who don't agree with you fascists or neocon war hawks?

Okay, call me a troll all you want. I know I'm right, I know you're wrong.

You sure? Because I don't think anybody here is convinced by your "arguements".

Really funny.

Let me guess, "right wing neocon war hawk satanist propaganda". Tell me, how close am I?

Look at his sig and it will explain all.

[Sovaal]

But DPRK literally having concentration camps means they're freer.


That's as good a statement as an alt-rightist claiming that they aren't alt-right, everybody else is just a leftist.


Wow, never knew the Gauth was a rightist neocon. But no, really, this is just pigeon holing.

First off, have you ever been to North Korea? And gone outside of the areas specifically set up by the Nork government and their actors?


Second, I never been to Germany, so I guess that the Allies invading and bombing it during WW2 was wrong, huh?


Something tells me that you wouldn't accept me using the US constitution as evidence that the US is a free country, so why should I accept the Nork one as evidence that they are actually free.
Anyway, got a response that isn't just this or calling people who don't agree with you fascists or neocon war hawks?


You sure? Because I don't think anybody here is convinced by your "arguements".


Let me guess, "right wing neocon war hawk satanist propaganda". Tell me, how close am I?

Look at his sig and it will explain all.

I've seen it. Still, if he wants to play ball he should play ball the right way, not repeating conspiracy theories and making claims that aren't true or can't be backed up.

[Gauthier]

Look at his sig and it will explain all.

I've seen it. Still, if he wants to play ball he should play ball the right way, not repeating conspiracy theories and making claims that aren't true or can't be backed up.

You make it sound like he buys bulk supplements from Infowars.

[Solomons Land]

Best case scenario: Iran going the rest of the world in condemning NK.
Worst case scenario: Iran declares a religion war.
Most likely scenario: Iran does not care.

[Salus Maior]

Why would this happen? There is freedom of religion in North Korea.

Not de-facto.

[Sovaal]

I've seen it. Still, if he wants to play ball he should play ball the right way, not repeating conspiracy theories and making claims that aren't true or can't be backed up.

You make it sound like he buys bulk supplements from Infowars.

Nah, he checks the dumpster outback for the expired ones.

[Da Klan]

I would assume this individual would receive a similar treatment that the baptist missionary got. However as others had mentioned, N. Korea and Iran are allies. So maybe this missionary could face being deported rather than hard labor?

http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-north-korea-missionary-prison-20140530-story.html

The story I was talking about ^

[Gim]

Iran has foregone its nuclear weapon production. North Korea has nuclear weapons. I don't think there's much Iran can stop North Korea alone.

[Pilarcraft]

Iran has foregone its nuclear weapon production. North Korea has nuclear weapons. I don't think there's much Iran can stop North Korea alone.

Iran is already helping half its traditional enemies deal with the ISIL situation in middle east. if push comes to shove they've shown they don't mind the "Great Satan" on the their side if it's against a common, worse enemy.

[Gim]

Iran has foregone its nuclear weapon production. North Korea has nuclear weapons. I don't think there's much Iran can stop North Korea alone.

Iran is already helping half its traditional enemies deal with the ISIL situation in middle east. if push comes to shove they've shown they don't mind the "Great Satan" on the their side if it's against a common, worse enemy.

Yeah, but North Korea is stronger.

[Tokora]

Worst case scenario: Iran declares a religion war.

How is a jihad against a country that everyone else wants gone in the first place a worst case scenario?

[Thermodolia]

Please stop making the hard-left sound like morons. Thanks. This is by far the most absurdly stupid thing I've ever heard said on the subject...

I'm not hard left, you're just right wing.

Um Cedoria is pretty damn far from being right wing.

[Sovaal]

I'm not hard left, you're just right wing.

Um Cedoria is pretty damn far from being right wing.

When you lean far energy ugh left even Gauthier becomes a neocon war hawk.