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Postby Principality of the Raix » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:46 am

Community Values wrote:When a person is praising a regime which has had a 60 year Great Purge resulting in mass famine and deaths, I think it's okay to be ""triggered"" by it.


True, true. But if we should be triggered by such. Than there is more then N.Korea to be "triggered" over. But that is why, specially in a "what if". We should have calm heads and allow calm minds to progress. Becoming "triggered" closes open discussion a lot. Course, if an individual is not triggered. They are less likely to debate, so it's 50-50.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:52 am

What is it with Juche fanboys who have obviously never been to North Korea who think they can stroll into Best Korea without ending up like Otto Warmbier?
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Postby Community Values » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:53 am

Principality of the Raix wrote:
Community Values wrote:When a person is praising a regime which has had a 60 year Great Purge resulting in mass famine and deaths, I think it's okay to be ""triggered"" by it.


True, true. But if we should be triggered by such. Than there is more then N.Korea to be "triggered" over. But that is why, specially in a "what if". We should have calm heads and allow calm minds to progress. Becoming "triggered" closes open discussion a lot. Course, if an individual is not triggered. They are less likely to debate, so it's 50-50.

I think using triggered for displeased at a person's opinion is disingenuous here. It has the same level of obnoxiousness that a Wehraboo has when he says "Wow, you don't agree with me that the Holocaust was fake? TRIGGERED haha".
Towards the discussion, I think Iran would would denounce NK's actions to appear consistent in policy. I think a similar situation happened in a gulf country, where Iran basically gave a huge middle finger to the country in question (Bahrain, I think)
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Postby Menta Lee-IL » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:55 am

Kennlind wrote:
Tokora wrote:And that is why foreign missionaries have never been detained in North Korea and worshipping the Glorious Leader Kim Jong-un is completely optional with no risk of getting exiled to a death camp at all. *facepalm*

This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.


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Postby Community Values » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:55 am

Gauthier wrote:What is it with Juche fanboys who have obviously never been to North Korea who think they can stroll into Best Korea without ending up like Otto Warmbier?

There's a reason why not even enemies of the state end up defecting to North Korea.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:56 am

I really don't see such a thing happening, but hypothetically, such a person would probably draw the ire of the Nork government.


Kennlind wrote:
Tokora wrote:And that is why foreign missionaries have never been detained in North Korea and worshipping the Glorious Leader Kim Jong-un is completely optional with no risk of getting exiled to a death camp at all. *facepalm*

This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.

Hahahaha. Ah man, you guys are hilarious. Yah, the three generations of political prisoners in North Korea are freer then me here in America, where I'm not even imprisoned for saying I hate the government. :roll: Just goddam that's delusional.
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Postby Greater Germany » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:57 am

Gauthier wrote:What is it with Juche fanboys who have obviously never been to North Korea who think they can stroll into Best Korea without ending up like Otto Warmbier?

It looks like the same person who comes here, trolls a little as a Juche fanboy, gets banned, then comes back months later with a new nation to just do the same thing.
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Postby Principality of the Raix » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:05 am

Community Values wrote:
Principality of the Raix wrote:
True, true. But if we should be triggered by such. Than there is more then N.Korea to be "triggered" over. But that is why, specially in a "what if". We should have calm heads and allow calm minds to progress. Becoming "triggered" closes open discussion a lot. Course, if an individual is not triggered. They are less likely to debate, so it's 50-50.

I think using triggered for displeased at a person's opinion is disingenuous here. It has the same level of obnoxiousness that a Wehraboo has when he says "Wow, you don't agree with me that the Holocaust was fake? TRIGGERED haha".
Towards the discussion, I think Iran would would denounce NK's actions to appear consistent in policy. I think a similar situation happened in a gulf country, where Iran basically gave a huge middle finger to the country in question (Bahrain, I think)


Can't say I disagree on the "trigger" word, I just enjoy making fun of it. Besides on the What if, I can see that. Reason I said before on my "what-if" to soothe the tension Russia would get involved like now. Which like now, would piss off china. However, I can see it.
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Postby Rusozak » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:48 am

I don't think Iran would reaffirm anything. I don't believe there is really such a thing as a "North Korean Ally." There's just states that have a vested interest in making sure N. Korea's enemies don't take it over and offset the balance of power in the region.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:51 pm

Community Values wrote:

Show it in practice, all you've shown is that it seems that Kim Jong Un is unconstitutional.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:45 pm

Kennlind wrote:
Tokora wrote:And that is why foreign missionaries have never been detained in North Korea and worshipping the Glorious Leader Kim Jong-un is completely optional with no risk of getting exiled to a death camp at all. *facepalm*

This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.


Finally! About time somebody made that clear, well done, comrade.

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Postby Shofercia » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:38 pm

Tokora wrote:Let's say that a faithful Islamic Iranian decides to become a missionary and tries to spread the word of Muhammad to North Korea, with predictable results. It starts with his family demanding his release eventually leading to large scale protests led by religious leaders demanding that his release be negotiated. Eventually a year later the North Korean government declares the Iranian dead. How do you think the Iranian government would handle this crisis.

Personally while I think Iran isn't the worst country in the world, its behavior since the revolution doesn't paint an optimistic picture for this scenario. Odds are that the Iranian government would reaffirm its cooperation with North Korea, somehow find an excuse to denounce the missionary, and suppress and protests that happen regardless of its leaders piety. What do you think?


I was thinking about Shia LaBouef going to NK, but apparently it's about a Muslim... Shia will get you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI

Seriously? None of you thought this thread would be about Shia LaBouef? Damn it NSG, I expected more!
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:45 pm

I'd say that it'd be a Shi'ite situation all around, in all honestly.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:53 pm

Shofercia wrote:Seriously? None of you thought this thread would be about Shia LaBouef? Damn it NSG, I expected more!


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Postby Cedoria » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:01 pm

Kennlind wrote:
Tokora wrote:And that is why foreign missionaries have never been detained in North Korea and worshipping the Glorious Leader Kim Jong-un is completely optional with no risk of getting exiled to a death camp at all. *facepalm*

This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Please stop making the hard-left sound like morons. Thanks. This is by far the most absurdly stupid thing I've ever heard said on the subject...
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He is a dead man no question, just as anyone religious in NoKo.
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:11 pm

He would most likely be intercepted by the Iranians before leaving Tehran. People tend to forget that the country has a very efficient domestic intelligence service. Since North Korea is one of the few countries that will cooperate with Iran on advanced weapons development, the Iranians would not want anything to jeopardize their valuable relationship with that country. So the moment the imam starts telling a few of his buddies that he's going to go around converting North Koreans he would get picked up by his own government.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:12 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Tokora wrote:Let's say that a faithful Islamic Iranian decides to become a missionary and tries to spread the word of Muhammad to North Korea, with predictable results. It starts with his family demanding his release eventually leading to large scale protests led by religious leaders demanding that his release be negotiated. Eventually a year later the North Korean government declares the Iranian dead. How do you think the Iranian government would handle this crisis.

Personally while I think Iran isn't the worst country in the world, its behavior since the revolution doesn't paint an optimistic picture for this scenario. Odds are that the Iranian government would reaffirm its cooperation with North Korea, somehow find an excuse to denounce the missionary, and suppress and protests that happen regardless of its leaders piety. What do you think?


I was thinking about Shia LaBouef going to NK, but apparently it's about a Muslim... Shia will get you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI

Seriously? None of you thought this thread would be about Shia LaBouef? Damn it NSG, I expected more!

Nobody who doesn't work for a tabloid show would care if he went to Best Korea, just like Dennis Rodman.
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Postby The Kruegh » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:19 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Kennlind wrote:This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Please stop making the hard-left sound like morons. Thanks. This is by far the most absurdly stupid thing I've ever heard said on the subject...

They do that themselves.

Please calm down I didn't mean anything by it
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Postby Shofercia » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:08 am

Gauthier wrote:Nobody who doesn't work for a tabloid show would care if he went to Best Korea, just like Dennis Rodman.


That's not true. The comics can find the trip quite interesting.
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Postby Kennlind » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:49 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Kennlind wrote:How is being against misinformation confusing?

So far the only sources against "misinformation" you've provided is the constitution of the DPRK and the presence of alternate parties.
The former is meaningless in what's essentially an autocracy, and the latter can very well be puppets of the main party that pretend to be different.

They're independent parties.

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Kennlind wrote:I thought you meant living in the DPRK lol, sorry. There is enough on the internet about USA, I'm thankful I don't live there, my friends would all be shot just for existing by the police.

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Kennlind wrote:Why would this happen? There is freedom of religion in North Korea.

Kennlind wrote:North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.

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Kennlind wrote:This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Please stop making the hard-left sound like morons. Thanks. This is by far the most absurdly stupid thing I've ever heard said on the subject...

I'm not hard left, you're just right wing.

Pilarcraft wrote:ok seriously why does this happen on every post?
The post is about Theorizing what would happen in a What-if situation. Why does a heated debate over whether or not DPRK is a hell-hole start?

Because they make stupid hypothetical situations that imply something bad would happen.

Gauthier wrote:What is it with Juche fanboys who have obviously never been to North Korea who think they can stroll into Best Korea without ending up like Otto Warmbier?

What is it with internationalist globalist warhawk neocon dick cheney fanboys who have obviously never been to North Korea thinking they can bomb a sovereign country just because their media says they're bad?

Sovaal wrote:I really don't see such a thing happening, but hypothetically, such a person would probably draw the ire of the Nork government.


Kennlind wrote:This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.

Hahahaha. Ah man, you guys are hilarious. Yah, the three generations of political prisoners in North Korea are freer then me here in America, where I'm not even imprisoned for saying I hate the government. :roll: Just goddam that's delusional.

Read the DPRK Constitution!

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Gauthier wrote:What is it with Juche fanboys who have obviously never been to North Korea who think they can stroll into Best Korea without ending up like Otto Warmbier?

It looks like the same person who comes here, trolls a little as a Juche fanboy, gets banned, then comes back months later with a new nation to just do the same thing.

Okay, call me a troll all you want. I know I'm right, I know you're wrong.

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Kennlind wrote:This is what someone who's never been to DPRK will say. North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.


Finally! About time somebody made that clear, well done, comrade.

Comrade Kennlind is completely right, as anybody who has watched this 100 % accurate educational cartoon can testify.

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Postby Community Values » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:56 am

Community Values wrote:

Show it in practice, all you've shown is that it seems that Kim Jong Un is unconstitutional.
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Postby Xadufell » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:00 am

Kennlind wrote:
Cedoria wrote: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Please stop making the hard-left sound like morons. Thanks. This is by far the most absurdly stupid thing I've ever heard said on the subject...

I'm not hard left, you're just right wing.


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Postby Kennlind » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:03 am

Xadufell wrote:
Kennlind wrote:
I'm not hard left, you're just right wing.


Nice Meme, fam

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