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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:03 am

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:You are extremely confusing.


But of course, he'd be accepted into North Korea even though he doesn't like Juche. *nods*

Even if you unironically like the government, it's a terrible place to live.
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Postby Kennlind » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:03 am

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Kennlind wrote:Dude I never said they weren't concentration camps. I'm not pro-DPRK or pro-Juche I'm just against the misinformation campaign spread about it. Yes those three parties don't get to run candidates, thats why the Social Democrats have 50 law makers, and the Chondoists have 22, isn't it. The UK were the first people to use concentration camps.

DPRK does have food, look up Jaka Parker on youtube.


No, I'm not pro-Juche fyi.


I don't live there because I'm not a traitor who would leave my country for a better life.

So don't pretend you know all about the country that I do live in. Coming from a lower-class brown guy, that should mean a lot.

I thought you meant living in the DPRK lol, sorry. There is enough on the internet about USA, I'm thankful I don't live there, my friends would all be shot just for existing by the police.

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Proctopeo wrote:You are extremely confusing.


But of course, he'd be accepted into North Korea even though he doesn't like Juche. *nods*

I dont want to live in the DPRK.

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Kennlind wrote:No, I'm not pro-Juche fyi.

You are extremely confusing.

How is being against misinformation confusing?
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:06 am

Kennlind wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:You are extremely confusing.

How is being against misinformation confusing?

So far the only sources against "misinformation" you've provided is the constitution of the DPRK and the presence of alternate parties.
The former is meaningless in what's essentially an autocracy, and the latter can very well be puppets of the main party that pretend to be different.
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Postby Principality of the Raix » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:06 am

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No in America they just get shot in the streets for their skin colour.


Racist police are a problem, one that should be dealt with, yes.

But they don't get burned to death, or poisoned, or mortared to death.



Problem with claiming cops are racist goes against statistics, now if it was the 1970-1980's. Yes, though I do not deny some cops may be racist. The ethnicity's being shot are normally shot by an officer of the same ethnicity. This shows very frequently, when you look at the "racist" cops. Most of them, not all. Tend to be the same color as the victem, be it white or black. Most, not all the time.
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Postby The Kruegh » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:06 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kennlind wrote:
No in America they just get shot in the streets for their skin colour.


Racist police are a problem, one that should be dealt with, yes.

But they don't get burned to death, or poisoned, or mortared to death.

But the "racist police" only act if there at least seems to be something illegal going on. Fortunately, in our country, you can say what you want about the government and you won't be sent to a concentration camp for doubleminus ungood crimethinkers. So criticizing the government is not one of the crimes that black people sometimes get shot for. Riots don't count, though. Damaging property is not something they're going to let slide if they can make any arrests.
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Postby The Kruegh » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:07 am

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The Kruegh wrote:So don't pretend you know all about the country that I do live in. Coming from a lower-class brown guy, that should mean a lot.

I thought you meant living in the DPRK lol, sorry. There is enough on the internet about USA, I'm thankful I don't live there, my friends would all be shot just for existing by the police.

If that were true, all of the darker-skinned people and people of other religions or other sexual orientations would already be dead or have left the country.
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:08 am

Kennlind wrote:
The Kruegh wrote:So don't pretend you know all about the country that I do live in. Coming from a lower-class brown guy, that should mean a lot.

I thought you meant living in the DPRK lol, sorry. There is enough on the internet about USA, I'm thankful I don't live there, my friends would all be shot just for existing by the police.

I missed this treasure the first time around.
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:09 am

The Kruegh wrote:
Kennlind wrote:I thought you meant living in the DPRK lol, sorry. There is enough on the internet about USA, I'm thankful I don't live there, my friends would all be shot just for existing by the police.

If that were true, all of the darker-skinned people and people of other religions or other sexual orientations would already be dead or have left the country.


I was under the impression a black man had won the office of President....hmmm....

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:09 am

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:Because then the big cities would outshout the small towns. It's to rebalance the votes. And I know that's incorrect I decided to simplify it, because the systems kinda complicated. Basically you don't live in a democracy, you live in a benevolent republic that takes some of the people's votes. Atleast that's better than koreas government...

So doing the most for society as a whole means you deserve to be represented less? If a Republican won the popular vote but lost the electoral vote, all of you would be fuming and calling it what it is - UNDEMOCRATIC FASCISM!

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:No in America they just get shot in the streets for their skin colour.

That only do what Kim Jong Un tells them to do. And In America people don't get executed by flamethrower like how O Sang-hon died.

Hey, I don't want some snobby college kids dictating how I live, so I'm happy with the American voting. It gives me a bigger voice, so the more dense parts of America don't dictate what I do. If you don't like it move to some Midwest area, so your vote has more effect.
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Postby The Kruegh » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:11 am

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
The Kruegh wrote:If that were true, all of the darker-skinned people and people of other religions or other sexual orientations would already be dead or have left the country.


I was under the impression a black man had won the office of President....hmmm....

Exactly.
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:12 am

The Kruegh wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
I was under the impression a black man had won the office of President....hmmm....

Exactly.


I guess i'm being "misinformed". Kind of like how the same guy from the same family always seems to win the election in North Korea, and why there's all these defectors who claim it's like hell. Misinformation.

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Postby Crockerland » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:12 am

Kennlind wrote:Why would this happen? There is freedom of religion in North Korea.

Kennlind wrote:North Korea is objectively more free than the United States.

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Postby The Kruegh » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:14 am

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
The Kruegh wrote:Exactly.


I guess i'm being "misinformed". Kind of like how the same guy from the same family always seems to win the election in North Korea, and why there's all these defectors who claim it's like hell. Misinformation.

Yep. Who knew Alex Jones-style mania was actually the correct style of thought?
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:16 am

The Kruegh wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
I guess i'm being "misinformed". Kind of like how the same guy from the same family always seems to win the election in North Korea, and why there's all these defectors who claim it's like hell. Misinformation.

Yep. Who knew Alex Jones-style mania was actually the correct style of thought?


I'm just waiting to see what he says about North Korean defectors. Maybe he thinks the Great Satan America brainwashes them or something? Hm.

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Postby Transhumanist Anarchical Union » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:16 am

Shia's don't have missionaries and don't believe in it, so I would guess he wouldn't get much support.

I think the Iranian government would only act if there was a pressure from inside, which probably wouldn't happen just because of one citizen that goes to such a country.
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Postby Principality of the Raix » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:16 am

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
The Kruegh wrote:Exactly.


I guess i'm being "misinformed". Kind of like how the same guy from the same family always seems to win the election in North Korea, and why there's all these defectors who claim it's like hell. Misinformation.


Thing about defectors, least in 3rd world countries is they are not happy in their Country. Most defectors are Nationalists to N.Korea until they leave the Country and then they realize that true freedom is not ran by Government entirely, but rather the individuals inside the Governments that keep them, free.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:17 am

ok seriously why does this happen on every post?
The post is about Theorizing what would happen in a What-if situation. Why does a heated debate over whether or not DPRK is a hell-hole start?
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Postby Principality of the Raix » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:19 am

Pilarcraft wrote:ok seriously why does this happen on every post?
The post is about Theorizing what would happen in a What-if situation. Why does a heated debate over whether or not DPRK is a hell-hole start?


Good question...
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Postby Victores » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:26 am

I lean towards the DPRK, especially some of the il-Sung era social and economic policies, but this level of apoligism.....its unprecedented.
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Postby The Kruegh » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:32 am

Principality of the Raix wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:ok seriously why does this happen on every post?
The post is about Theorizing what would happen in a What-if situation. Why does a heated debate over whether or not DPRK is a hell-hole start?


Good question...

Because somebody started praising them.
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Postby Principality of the Raix » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:36 am

The Kruegh wrote:
Principality of the Raix wrote:
Good question...

Because somebody started praising them.


Seen that and I suppose that is a good answer, though it comes off as people just got "triggered" due to the subject. Be it praising or otherwise.

But that is a good simple answer, I mean not even N.Koreans in S.Korea praise him. But not like I am going to bash on them. I will bash on Kim, but not the oppressed people.
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Postby The Kruegh » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:39 am

Principality of the Raix wrote:
The Kruegh wrote:Because somebody started praising them.


Seen that and I suppose that is a good answer, though it comes off as people just got "triggered" due to the subject. Be it praising or otherwise.

But that is a good simple answer, I mean not even N.Koreans in S.Korea praise him. But not like I am going to bash on them. I will bash on Kim, but not the oppressed people.

Well, by "them" I really mean the various people in the government, not the lowly citizens.
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Postby Community Values » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:40 am

Principality of the Raix wrote:
The Kruegh wrote:Because somebody started praising them.


Seen that and I suppose that is a good answer, though it comes off as people just got "triggered" due to the subject. Be it praising or otherwise.

When a person is praising a regime which has had a 60 year Great Purge resulting in mass famine and deaths, I think it's okay to be ""triggered"" by it.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:43 am

Community Values wrote:
Principality of the Raix wrote:
Seen that and I suppose that is a good answer, though it comes off as people just got "triggered" due to the subject. Be it praising or otherwise.

When a person is praising a regime which has had a 60 year Great Purge resulting in mass famine and deaths, I think it's okay to be ""triggered"" by it.

tbh this very sentence is why I, myself a leftist, normally get angry pretty quickly when I get into Political Forum.
Some of the Left-wingers, (Some of them even not auth left) just base their whole identity as "Anti Imperialism", and then support Assad, Saddam, Gaddafi, The DPRK, The USSR, etc etc.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:44 am

Christianity (which includes Catholic) first took root in Korea in what is considered today NK.. In SK., Christianity is practiced by 27.6% of the population with Buddhism 15.5%. The so called other main world religions(this should include the Shia) are less then 1%. So first a Catholic NK. then a Shia NK..
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