Should Parents Have the Right to Force Religious Belief?

[Ethel mermania]

Should Parents Have the Right to Force Children to Speak the Parents' Native Language?
Should Parents Have the Right to Force Children to Attend the Kindergarten or Primary School that the Parents want?
Should Parents Have the Right to Force Children to Wear the Clothes that the Parents Picked for Them?
Should Parents Have the Right to Force Children to Participate in Secular Cultural Practices that the Parents Participate in?

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course they should. Of course parents should have the right to teach children to follow the same beliefs and values and cultural practices - including religious ones - that the parents follow.

If the children don't like it, they can decide for themselves when they grow up. Not before.

pretty much this ^

[Trumptonium]

I agree with this too, do it's also good for a parent to assist and support their child anyway they can.

And charge them only minimal rent. *nod*

...what kind of parent charges rent?

never heard of this, is this an American thing?

[NERVUN]

And charge them only minimal rent. *nod*

...what kind of parent charges rent?

never heard of this, is this an American thing?

Usually for adult children living with their parents, not minors.

Though I do claim Dad Tax from my sons from time to time and sneak a bite off of something.

On topic... depends on the age I suppose. And by what you mean by force. There's a whole hell of a lot of variables here, though I find myself mostly in agreement with the OP.

[Farnhamia]

...what kind of parent charges rent?

never heard of this, is this an American thing?

Usually for adult children living with their parents, not minors.

Though I do claim Dad Tax from my sons from time to time and sneak a bite off of something.

On topic... depends on the age I suppose. And by what you mean by force. There's a whole hell of a lot of variables here, though I find myself mostly in agreement with the OP.

Should I have included a smiley, Sensei?

[Katganistan]

No, absolutely not - what you described in the OP should be seen and treated as abuse. Want to teach your child about your religion - fine that is akin to proselytizing, but once you past the line into actively preventing them from following another religion (or not following any religion) that should be stopped by the state.

And, what? "You can't expect your child to say grace at your table?"

ACS is going to take kids from their families for being too religious?

Come on now.

[Ethel mermania]

No, absolutely not - what you described in the OP should be seen and treated as abuse. Want to teach your child about your religion - fine that is akin to proselytizing, but once you past the line into actively preventing them from following another religion (or not following any religion) that should be stopped by the state.

And, what? "You can't expect your child to say grace at your table?"

ACS is going to take kids from their families for being too religious?

Come on now.

no more cold borsht mommie

[Vassenor]

No. In fact just about all the big religions are pretty explicit that an individual cannot be compelled to believe.

[Katganistan]

And charge them only minimal rent. *nod*

...what kind of parent charges rent?

never heard of this, is this an American thing?

The kind of parent who has an adult child still living at home?

[Albrenia]

Feel free to teach your kids about your faith, but don't force it upon them. There's no laws against forcing your kid to go to church if they don't want to (nor should there be), but it's still a thing only crappy parents would do.

[Katganistan]

No. In fact just about all the big religions are pretty explicit that an individual cannot be compelled to believe.

Right.

As I recall it wasn't until I was a teen (15? 16) that I received confirmation, and a big part of it was to honestly think about whether we were ready to or even wanted to commit to following Catholicism.

[NERVUN]

Usually for adult children living with their parents, not minors.

Though I do claim Dad Tax from my sons from time to time and sneak a bite off of something.

On topic... depends on the age I suppose. And by what you mean by force. There's a whole hell of a lot of variables here, though I find myself mostly in agreement with the OP.

Should I have included a smiley, Sensei?

Reckon so. ~_^

[NERVUN]

Feel free to teach your kids about your faith, but don't force it upon them. There's no laws against forcing your kid to go to church if they don't want to (nor should there be), but it's still a thing only crappy parents would do.

Depends. Again, age is a question because there are many places kids don't want to be but need to go to due to parents going.

[Socio Polor]

...what kind of parent charges rent?

never heard of this, is this an American thing?

The kind of parent who has an adult child still living at home?

I disagree. I don't think a parent should ever tax or force their child for having to pay rent. In my honest opinion I think a child should be able to stay home for no matter how long, as long as they continue to show respect to the household

[The Rich Port]

The kind of parent who has an adult child still living at home?

I disagree. I don't think a parent should ever tax or force their child for having to pay rent. In my honest opinion I think a child should be able to stay home for no matter how long, as long as they continue to show respect to the household

Eh, to be fair, some parents do it out of necessity. It's either the adult kid contributes rent, or there's no house for anybody. Mouths to feed and what not.

At the same time, of course, children aren't asked to be born. Children should not be forced to contribute to the family if the parents can afford it, especially if the children don't want to.

You can't afford a child, don't bring them into this world and hoist your troubles onto them.

Should Parents Have the Right to Force Children to Speak the Parents' Native Language?
Should Parents Have the Right to Force Children to Attend the Kindergarten or Primary School that the Parents want?
Should Parents Have the Right to Force Children to Wear the Clothes that the Parents Picked for Them?
Should Parents Have the Right to Force Children to Participate in Secular Cultural Practices that the Parents Participate in?

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course they should. Of course parents should have the right to teach children to follow the same beliefs and values and cultural practices - including religious ones - that the parents follow.

If the children don't like it, they can decide for themselves when they grow up. Not before.

pretty much this ^

There is a gigantic difference between enforcing things like basic hygiene and good manners in a kid and forcing doctrine on them.

[Socio Polor]

Feel free to teach your kids about your faith, but don't force it upon them. There's no laws against forcing your kid to go to church if they don't want to (nor should there be), but it's still a thing only crappy parents would do.

Depends. Again, age is a question because there are many places kids don't want to be but need to go to due to parents going.

When a child is old enough to stay home by themselves, around 11-12 years of age, they should be able to choose whether they want to attend church with their parents or whoever

[Albrenia]

Feel free to teach your kids about your faith, but don't force it upon them. There's no laws against forcing your kid to go to church if they don't want to (nor should there be), but it's still a thing only crappy parents would do.

Depends. Again, age is a question because there are many places kids don't want to be but need to go to due to parents going.

True that, I didn't consider kids too young to be left home alone. In -that- case it's not crappy, I agree.

[Great Nepal]

No, absolutely not - what you described in the OP should be seen and treated as abuse. Want to teach your child about your religion - fine that is akin to proselytizing, but once you past the line into actively preventing them from following another religion (or not following any religion) that should be stopped by the state.

And, what? "You can't expect your child to say grace at your table?"

ACS is going to take kids from their families for being too religious?

Come on now.

You can expect them to say whatever you want, you just can't punish them if they decide to praise allha for the food instead.
No, the state should rather obviously take measures depending on the incident - the case like one described in the OP where parents are actively preventing the child from practising their faith yes, your case issue a warning scaling up to citation if child complains.

[Salus Maior]

pretty much this ^

There is a gigantic difference between enforcing things like basic hygiene and good manners in a kid and forcing doctrine on them.

Manners, values, and religion go hand in hand for many people. If the parents believe those values are something their child should be taught, nothing should stop them.

[The Parkus Empire]

You can't force belief. That's silly.

Do parents have the right to raise their children as Christians, or in any other ideological-ethical-epistemological framework? Sure, for the most part.

[The Rich Port]

There is a gigantic difference between enforcing things like basic hygiene and good manners in a kid and forcing doctrine on them.

Manners, values, and religion go hand in hand for many people. If the parents believe those values are something their child should be taught, nothing should stop them.

Nothing? Not common sense? Not respect for their child's desires? Not criminal law? Not civic law? Not child abuse laws?

[Republic of the Cristo]

Parents have a right to teach their children morals, and for a lot of people ( I dare say most ) said morals come from religion. A kid may very well disagree with what his parents have to say about the nature of the matter, but they are still a kid and thus still under the jurisdiction of their parents and are more than free to live how they please when they are adults.

And on a side note, we Christians are actually instructed to teach our children about God: Deuteronomy 6:6-7

[Salus Maior]

Manners, values, and religion go hand in hand for many people. If the parents believe those values are something their child should be taught, nothing should stop them.

Nothing? Not common sense? Not respect for their child's desires? Not criminal law? Not civic law? Not child abuse laws?

No. Because none of those things would be applicable.

[Ethel mermania]

The kind of parent who has an adult child still living at home?

I disagree. I don't think a parent should ever tax or force their child for having to pay rent. In my honest opinion I think a child should be able to stay home for no matter how long, as long as they continue to show respect to the household

Pffft, the point of parenting is to produce competent adults who can survive on their own. 30 year olds living in mommies basement is a failure in parenting

[Ethel mermania]

I disagree. I don't think a parent should ever tax or force their child for having to pay rent. In my honest opinion I think a child should be able to stay home for no matter how long, as long as they continue to show respect to the household

Eh, to be fair, some parents do it out of necessity. It's either the adult kid contributes rent, or there's no house for anybody. Mouths to feed and what not.

At the same time, of course, children aren't asked to be born. Children should not be forced to contribute to the family if the parents can afford it, especially if the children don't want to.

You can't afford a child, don't bring them into this world and hoist your troubles onto them.

pretty much this ^

There is a gigantic difference between enforcing things like basic hygiene and good manners in a kid and forcing doctrine on them.

Behavior is behavior you are just placing a value on what behavior you approve of or npt.

[Fartsniffage]

Parents have a right to teach their children morals, and for a lot of people ( I dare say most ) said morals come from religion. A kid may very well disagree with what his parents have to say about the nature of the matter, but they are still a kid and thus still under the jurisdiction of their parents and are more than free to live how they please when they are adults.

And on a side note, we Christians are actually instructed to teach our children about God: Deuteronomy 6:6-7

“Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world.” ?