9/11 seems so long ago...

[Greater Cesnica]

One of the most terrible events in America, which has completely changed the course of history.

It'd be nice if something like that did not happen again...

I think something big and disastrous like 9/11 will happen again. Just look at the proliferation of nuclear materials in third-world countries.

[Luminesa]

Also on Christian Terrorism: Apparently the IRA stopped existing while I wasn't looking.

Daily reminder that the IRA was not/is not (regardless of which incarnation) a religious organization, though many of its members were religious. It was/is a political organization.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Also, Islam doesn't have terrorists. No non-sentient anything has anything.

...What?...Every religious organization has its terrorists. That's a rather silly suggestion, to say religious terrorists don't exist.

Religious orgs can have their terrorists, I agree with ou on that. But the religion itself can't have any. It's impossible.

[Greater Cesnica]

Also, Islam doesn't have terrorists. No non-sentient anything has anything.

...What?...Every religious organization has its terrorists. That's a rather silly suggestion, to say religious terrorists don't exist.

Keep in mind that comment came from El-Amin Caliphate.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

...What?...Every religious organization has its terrorists. That's a rather silly suggestion, to say religious terrorists don't exist.

Keep in mind that comment came from El-Amin Caliphate.

What's that suppsed to mean.

[Greater Cesnica]

...What?...Every religious organization has its terrorists. That's a rather silly suggestion, to say religious terrorists don't exist.

Religious orgs can have their terrorists, I agree with ou on that. But the religion itself can't have any. It's impossible.

So you're telling me Mawlawis do not sympathize with Islamic Extremists?

[Corrian]

All I remember is looking at the TV, wondering what was so shocking, seeing burning buildings, shrugging and going back to playing with my toys.

This is what happens when you're 7.

[Greater Cesnica]

Keep in mind that comment came from El-Amin Caliphate.

What's that suppsed to mean.

Defending Islam in all situations is not necessarily the right thing to do. All religions have their various flaws, inconsistencies, and contradictions.

[Greater Cesnica]

All I remember is looking at the TV, wondering what was so shocking, seeing burning buildings, shrugging and going back to playing with my toys.

This is what happens when you're 7.

I saw the collapse from my two-year-old eyes live. It never went through my head back then, in my crib, that I had just lost my mom. It's surreal. You don't know the fuck has happened until the aftermath wreaks havoc.

[Sarzonia]

With tomorrow being the 16th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, and the Pentagon, and the crash landing in Pennsylvania, it certainly seems like a lifetime ago.

And yet, seeing posts on Facebook thanks to the On This Day feature brings back the immediacy of the attacks. My then-roommate had our cordless phone in the master bedroom we shared. It rang that morning. The call was for me. She woke me up to take the call. As soon as I was done with the call, I yelled at her to never wake me up for a phone call again "unless it's an emergency." Little did I know...

A few minutes later, still a bit peeved over being awakened to answer the phone, I went into the living room where I saw the smoke and the holes in the Twin Towers. I remember asking, "what just happened?" One roommate looked at the one I shared the room with and said, "should we tell him?" He then did. All of a sudden, I forgot about being upset over being awakened to take what turned out to be the first of many, many calls. My stepfather called several times. My grandmother called several times. During our first phone conversation, I asked her to compare the terrorist attacks to Pearl Harbor. Thankfully, my grandmother had yet to suffer the ravages of dementia, so she could provide context. She said the terrorist attacks were much worse than Pearl Harbor.

I had an appointment downtown later that day. I was too scared to go ride the subway system, fearing the prospect of another terrorist attack on the subway.

[Luminesa]

...What?...Every religious organization has its terrorists. That's a rather silly suggestion, to say religious terrorists don't exist.

Religious orgs can have their terrorists, I agree with ou on that. But the religion itself can't have any. It's impossible.

Various sects of religions can be stirring pots for terrorists, like the WBC for Christians and the Salafis/Wahhabis for Islam. Doesn't necessarily mean everyone in those groups is a terrorist.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Religious orgs can have their terrorists, I agree with ou on that. But the religion itself can't have any. It's impossible.

So you're telling me Mawlawis do not sympathize with Islamic Extremists?

I never said that people don't have terrorists. I'm talking about the religion itself.

[Luminesa]

All I remember is looking at the TV, wondering what was so shocking, seeing burning buildings, shrugging and going back to playing with my toys.

This is what happens when you're 7.

I saw the collapse from my two-year-old eyes live. It never went through my head back then, in my crib, that I had just lost my mom. It's surreal. You don't know the fuck has happened until the aftermath wreaks havoc.

You lost your mother in the Towers? Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

[Greater Cesnica]

With tomorrow being the 16th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, and the Pentagon, and the crash landing in Pennsylvania, it certainly seems like a lifetime ago.

And yet, seeing posts on Facebook thanks to the On This Day feature brings back the immediacy of the attacks. My then-roommate had our cordless phone in the master bedroom we shared. It rang that morning. The call was for me. She woke me up to take the call. As soon as I was done with the call, I yelled at her to never wake me up for a phone call again "unless it's an emergency." Little did I know...

A few minutes later, still a bit peeved over being awakened to answer the phone, I went into the living room where I saw the smoke and the holes in the Twin Towers. I remember asking, "what just happened?" One roommate looked at the one I shared the room with and said, "should we tell him?" He then did. All of a sudden, I forgot about being upset over being awakened to take what turned out to be the first of many, many calls. My stepfather called several times. My grandmother called several times. During our first phone conversation, I asked her to compare the terrorist attacks to Pearl Harbor. Thankfully, my grandmother had yet to suffer the ravages of dementia, so she could provide context. She said the terrorist attacks were much worse than Pearl Harbor.

I had an appointment downtown later that day. I was too scared to go ride the subway system, fearing the prospect of another terrorist attack on the subway.

... We were attacked right at our soul that day.

I saw the collapse from my two-year-old eyes live. It never went through my head back then, in my crib, that I had just lost my mom. It's surreal. You don't know the fuck has happened until the aftermath wreaks havoc.

You lost your mother in the Towers? Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

Thanks...

She was on the 43rd floor of the South Tower, in a contractor firm. She died helping people down the stairs...

[Greater Cesnica]

So you're telling me Mawlawis do not sympathize with Islamic Extremists?

I never said that people don't have terrorists. I'm talking about the religion itself.

Do you want to know something? Muhammad (PBUH) was taken in by Jews. 5 years later, he was busy killing the same Jews.

[Risottia]

It was rather scary, aye.
The scariest bit was watching people I know who were kids during WW2, and who lived through artillery and aerial bombings. And seeing them rushing to the supermarket and starting stockpiling canned food, water, salt and sugar. They were living the war again.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

It was rather scary, aye.
The scariest bit was watching people I know who were kids during WW2, and who lived through artillery and aerial bombings. And seeing them rushing to the supermarket and starting stockpiling canned food, water, salt and sugar. They were living the war again.

That's some major PTSD right there. I pray that everyone who was on the ground during the attacks is ok now, aameen/amen

[Greater Cesnica]

It was rather scary, aye.
The scariest bit was watching people I know who were kids during WW2, and who lived through artillery and aerial bombings. And seeing them rushing to the supermarket and starting stockpiling canned food, water, salt and sugar. They were living the war again.

That's some major PTSD right there. I pray that everyone who was on the ground during the attacks is ok now, aameen/amen

I feel so bad for those who suffered that day. Knowing that they were under attack.

[MERIZoC]

Also on Christian Terrorism: Apparently the IRA stopped existing while I wasn't looking.

You're kidding, right? The IRA was non sectarian.

[Dylar]

I was just 1 year old.

That makes me feel even worse about my age! But on the flip side, you missed experiencing a lot of things first hand. And I don't just mean 9/11. For example the time before the internet (was there such a time, a lot of Millennials will ask), widespread cellphone use, or even widespread computer use. I have a typewriter in my office that I still use sometimes. I remember all these things, wise old sage that I am!

I'm not really that old, relatively speaking, but still old enough to be in the band of people that can vividly remember pre-internet/cellphone/computer times.

Actually, my household was pre-Internet for awhile. My dad had Internet on his PC, with the Belkin Wireless adapters that were about $10 a piece, but our computer was without Internet until I was in 3rd grade. I had to play tons of CD-strategy games that my dad bought for himself. Games like Star Trek Armada, Age of Empires 2, and Empire Earth. As for the cellphones, I never had one until I was thirteen when I needed it to inform my dad to pick me up from Youth group, before that, we had landline phones.

[New Greater Netherlands]

Then the terrorists have already won.

Also, Islam doesn't have terrorists. No non-sentient anything has anything.

Islam does have terrorists

[New Greater Netherlands]

Also, Islam doesn't have terrorists. No non-sentient anything has anything.

Salafism can be considered as a sect of Islam. Salafism currently is supported by Saudi Arabia. Islam isn't the cancer of the world, Saudi Arabia is in my view. It ruined a good religion.

Islam IS the cancer of the world

[Farnhamia]

Also, Islam doesn't have terrorists. No non-sentient anything has anything.

Islam does have terrorists

Whether or not Islam has terrorists is not the point of this thread. That point is remembrances of the event in 2001. Drop it.

[Zakuvia]

I was in the 7th grade. We had one room that got cable in the whole building, or at least one that anybody could watch. It was in our science room, and the teacher who ran it was normally very nice about just leaving it on MTV during our inter-class periods, or letting us leave it on when we weren't supposed to be studying. I woke up that morning and got in the car with my mother, who was a teacher at the school, and remembered very vaguely seeing something about a building being on fire. I'd never been to the east coast, so that flaming side didn't strike any bells in my mind. It was big news, but for a kid that age, it was ALWAYS big news, so I let it be.

It wasn't until we were all told to just quietly get up and make our way to the science room that it started to hit home. Most of the teachers were either crying or making phone calls far in the back of the room. I don't know if any of them had relatives involved. I watched both towers fall live on TV, and it took me a while to really come to understand the reality of what I'd witnessed.

I talk with Chiefs who've been in since earlier than 2001, and they told me they were put on a footing that had every one of them thinking it was as close to the end of days as you could imagine, and that something much worse was about to happen. I can only imagine, being in myself now.

[Computer Lab]

I was only 4 at the time, so I don't remember it well, and I am sorta convinced what vague memories I do have were constructed after the fact. My oldest brother remembers being in class and watching it happen on tv.

I just found out a few years ago that my aunt and uncle were in New York at the time. IIRC they were on their honeymoon and the hotel they were staying at was right across from the towers. They weren't at the hotel when it happened, and they spent the rest of the day trying to leave the city. They left their suitcases and even traded one of my aunt's dresses for access to a phone to let the family know they were okay.

I know there are more details I am forgetting, but I only heard the story once, and I haven't told it very often, so it is hard to remember.