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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:30 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Nope, that right there is you trying to justify it.
Not that I would expect less from someone who defends the Japanese in WW2 by calling the Americans imperialists.

I'm not justifying.....all of it.

I only uphold the attacks on the pentagon. The world trade centers is completely wrong. You don't hit civilians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#September_11_attacks

All 59 civilians and the 5 terrorists on the airliner were killed, as were 70 civilians and 55 military personnel
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Postby Xelsis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:30 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Nope, that right there is you trying to justify it.
Not that I would expect less from someone who defends the Japanese in WW2 by calling the Americans imperialists.

I'm not justifying.....all of it.

I only uphold the attacks on the pentagon. The world trade centers is completely wrong. You don't hit civilians


They hit the Pentagon with civilians. There were five children on Flight 77. Most of the people killed in that attack were civilian accountants, bookkeepers, and budget analysts.
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:33 am

Xelsis wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:well......9/11 today.
I'm having mixed fellings. In one way I'm deeply hurt that any human could think "I'm going to destroy thousands of people....on purpose"
Yet given the facts in more than one way America was asking for it.(I'm not justifying it)You cant bully people and not expect resistance.
Yet there is absolutely no justification for attacking civilians ...your thoughts?


Yes, "America" was asking for it.

All of those businesspeople, firefighters, travelers, and the eight children killed were personally involved in dictating U.S. foreign policy, and were simply begging to be murdered for it.

Just how many did they bully?

like I said the WTC were wrong.
Xelsis wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:I'm not justifying.....all of it

I only uphold the attacks on the pentagon. The world trade centers is completely wrong. You don't hit civilians


They hit the Pentagon with civilians. There were five children on Flight 77. Most of the people killed in that attack were civilian accountants, bookkeepers, and budget analysts.

The pentagon was a military symbol...therefore perfectly alright to hit.
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Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:well......9/11 today.
I'm having mixed fellings. In one way I'm deeply hurt that any human could think "I'm going to destroy thousands of people....on purpose"
Yet given the facts in more than one way America was asking for it.(I'm not justifying it)You cant bully people and not expect resistance.
Yet there is absolutely no justification for attacking civilians ...your thoughts?

Who did the Americans bully at the time? I don't remember them having anything to do in the middle east UNTIL 9/11.
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Postby Xelsis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:34 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:well......9/11 today.
I'm having mixed fellings. In one way I'm deeply hurt that any human could think "I'm going to destroy thousands of people....on purpose"
Yet given the facts in more than one way America was asking for it.(I'm not justifying it)You cant bully people and not expect resistance.
Yet there is absolutely no justification for attacking civilians ...your thoughts?




Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:The pentagon was a military symbol...therefore perfectly alright to hit.




It took only six replied for you to justify killing civilians.
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Postby -Federation of Terra » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:34 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Xelsis wrote:
Yes, "America" was asking for it.

All of those businesspeople, firefighters, travelers, and the eight children killed were personally involved in dictating U.S. foreign policy, and were simply begging to be murdered for it.

Just how many did they bully?

like I said the WTC were wrong.
Xelsis wrote:
They hit the Pentagon with civilians. There were five children on Flight 77. Most of the people killed in that attack were civilian accountants, bookkeepers, and budget analysts.

The pentagon was a military symbol...therefore perfectly alright to hit.

No it's not, hitting a military target with something that will cause many civilian deaths is NOT ALRIGHT, PERIOD.
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:36 am

-Federation of Terra wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:well......9/11 today.
I'm having mixed fellings. In one way I'm deeply hurt that any human could think "I'm going to destroy thousands of people....on purpose"
Yet given the facts in more than one way America was asking for it.(I'm not justifying it)You cant bully people and not expect resistance.
Yet there is absolutely no justification for attacking civilians ...your thoughts?

Who did the Americans bully at the time? I don't remember them having anything to do in the middle east UNTIL 9/11.

does Kuwait ring a bell?
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:36 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Xelsis wrote:
Yes, "America" was asking for it.

All of those businesspeople, firefighters, travelers, and the eight children killed were personally involved in dictating U.S. foreign policy, and were simply begging to be murdered for it.

Just how many did they bully?

like I said the WTC were wrong.
Xelsis wrote:
They hit the Pentagon with civilians. There were five children on Flight 77. Most of the people killed in that attack were civilian accountants, bookkeepers, and budget analysts.

The pentagon was a military symbol...therefore perfectly alright to hit.

Yet when the US actually destroys legitament military targets you call them evil because civilians where caught in the blast.
Anyway
Sovaal wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:I'm not justifying.....all of it.

I only uphold the attacks on the pentagon. The world trade centers is completely wrong. You don't hit civilians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#September_11_attacks

All 59 civilians and the 5 terrorists on the airliner were killed, as were 70 civilians and 55 military personnel
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:37 am

-Federation of Terra wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:like I said the WTC were wrong.
The pentagon was a military symbol...therefore perfectly alright to hit.

No it's not, hitting a military target with something that will cause many civilian deaths is NOT ALRIGHT, PERIOD.
Well according to the airstrikes that America has so graciously brought to the civilians of the middle east it is
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:37 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
-Federation of Terra wrote:Who did the Americans bully at the time? I don't remember them having anything to do in the middle east UNTIL 9/11.

does Kuwait ring a bell?

So I guess we should have let Iraqi invade and annex anyone they want, right?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

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Postby Xelsis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:37 am

-Federation of Terra wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:well......9/11 today.
I'm having mixed fellings. In one way I'm deeply hurt that any human could think "I'm going to destroy thousands of people....on purpose"
Yet given the facts in more than one way America was asking for it.(I'm not justifying it)You cant bully people and not expect resistance.
Yet there is absolutely no justification for attacking civilians ...your thoughts?

Who did the Americans bully at the time? I don't remember them having anything to do in the middle east UNTIL 9/11.


There was a great deal of American involvement, if more sporadic, in the region and internationally in general, including multiple missile attacks, in the run-up to 9/11. (Not counting the massive operation of the Gulf War)

If those actions of the government are justification for murdering civilians who hadn't done a thing to make them happen-well, that's what it seems is trying to be justified here.
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Postby -Federation of Terra » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:38 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
-Federation of Terra wrote:Who did the Americans bully at the time? I don't remember them having anything to do in the middle east UNTIL 9/11.

does Kuwait ring a bell?

Oh you mean this?
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Shiiit, the US are effing bullies ain't they?
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:38 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
-Federation of Terra wrote:No it's not, hitting a military target with something that will cause many civilian deaths is NOT ALRIGHT, PERIOD.
Well according to the airstrikes that America has so graciously brought to the civilians of the middle east it is

Yet you call them evil for it. At least admit that you hate Americans instead of talking bullshit about justification.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:38 am

Xelsis wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:well......9/11 today.
I'm having mixed fellings. In one way I'm deeply hurt that any human could think "I'm going to destroy thousands of people....on purpose"
Yet given the facts in more than one way America was asking for it.(I'm not justifying it)You cant bully people and not expect resistance.
Yet there is absolutely no justification for attacking civilians ...your thoughts?




Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:The pentagon was a military symbol...therefore perfectly alright to hit.




It took only six replied for you to justify killing civilians.

military personnel....if your working in a military building your a target
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Postby Kuzulon » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:39 am

Those Islamists were cooperating with the Bush government. Today, they cooperate with Democrats and RINOs.

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Postby Xelsis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:39 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Xelsis wrote:






It took only six replied for you to justify killing civilians.

military personnel....if your working in a military building your a target


When were the five children, ages 3-11, on Flight 77 drafted into the U.S. Armed Forces, exactly?
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:40 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Xelsis wrote:





It took only six replied for you to justify killing civilians.

military personnel....if your working in a military building your a target

No, they where civilian contractors. If the US military had done something similar you would call them evil.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:40 am

Sovaal wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:Well according to the airstrikes that America has so graciously brought to the civilians of the middle east it is

Yet you call them evil for it. At least admit that you hate Americans instead of talking bullshit about justification.

Well I thought that was obvious......but that has nothing to do with that fact that America targets HOSPITALS and claims them to be military bases.
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Postby -Federation of Terra » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:40 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Xelsis wrote:






It took only six replied for you to justify killing civilians.

military personnel....if your working in a military building your a target

And yet they used a plane filled with civilians.


Kuzulon wrote:Those Islamists were cooperating with the Bush government. Today, they cooperate with Democrats and RINOs.

Please provide proof, and better, get the eff out of here, make your own 9/11 was done by Bush thread.
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Yet you call them evil for it. At least admit that you hate Americans instead of talking bullshit about justification.

Well I thought that was obvious......but that has nothing to do with that fact that America targets HOSPITALS and claims them to be military bases.

Source please.
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:41 am

Sovaal wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:military personnel....if your working in a military building your a target

No, they where civilian contractors. If the US military had done something similar you would call them evil.

Yes because there a big difference between ending a fight......and starting it.
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Postby -Federation of Terra » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:42 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Sovaal wrote:No, they where civilian contractors. If the US military had done something similar you would call them evil.

Yes because there a big difference between ending a fight......and starting it.

THere is also a big difference between targeting civilians and military targets.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:43 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Yet you call them evil for it. At least admit that you hate Americans instead of talking bullshit about justification.

Well I thought that was obvious......but that has nothing to do with that fact that America targets HOSPITALS and claims them to be military bases.

Yet you ignore when our enemies do the same. The US military doesn't purposefully target such places, but many of our enemies have.
Of course, when you can justify the Japanese empire, you can justify anything, so long as they fight Americans, right?
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:45 am

-Federation of Terra wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:military personnel....if your working in a military building your a target

And yet they used a plane filled with civilians.


Kuzulon wrote:Those Islamists were cooperating with the Bush government. Today, they cooperate with Democrats and RINOs.

Please provide proof, and better, get the eff out of here, make your own 9/11 was done by Bush thread.
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:Well I thought that was obvious......but that has nothing to do with that fact that America targets HOSPITALS and claims them to be military bases.

Source please.

I should point out that I never claimed one side to be completely innocent

But more to the point ...they did indeed use planes full of civilians and in that they were wrong. It would have been much better had they stole and empty one.


also
http://abcnews.go.com/International/us- ... d=34993960
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:45 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Sovaal wrote:No, they where civilian contractors. If the US military had done something similar you would call them evil.

Yes because there a big difference between ending a fight......and starting it.

Yet when we fight a war we didn't start, you call us evil.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:47 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
-Federation of Terra wrote:And yet they used a plane filled with civilians.



Please provide proof, and better, get the eff out of here, make your own 9/11 was done by Bush thread.

Source please.

I should point out that I never claimed one side to be completely innocent

But more to the point ...they did indeed use planes full of civilians and in that they were wrong. It would have been much better had they stole and empty one.


also
http://abcnews.go.com/International/us- ... d=34993960

That's bullshit and the people responsible for it should be punished, yet nowhere in it do they claim it was a military base.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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