by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:52 am
by Vassenor » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:55 am
by Sailence » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:58 am
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:02 am
by Costa Fierro » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:02 am
by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:10 am
Vassenor wrote:So when did CNN actually do any of those things?
by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:13 am
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:It's not defamation if it's not a personal assault, if American law on the subject looks anything like European law. You could then go for a group insult, but I don't think political groups are protected groups under such ordinances. So, no, this is not going to work in a million years.
by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:15 am
Sailence wrote:LOL Trump supporters are using political correctness against the advocates of it? AHAHAHAHAHA Trump supporters never fail to enlighten me in their hypocrisy.
by Vassenor » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:20 am
Blasted Craigs wrote:Vassenor wrote:So when did CNN actually do any of those things?
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/16/cnn-reporter-compares-trump-to-hitler-while-her-boss-buys-obama-photos/
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/cnn-goes-there-on-trumps-campaign-adolph-hitler-when-he-first-rose-to-power-was-elected/
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/08/16/dem-congressman-cnn-trump-presidency-replay-hitlers-rise-power/
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/14/trump-condemns-racism-jpm-orig.cnn
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/liberal-activists-if-you-voted-for-trump-youre-to-blame-for-charlottesville
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/ordinary-white-supremacists/index.html
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/09/van-jones-says-the-election-is-whitelash-against-a-changing-country/
Literally a 5-10 minute search.
Really?
by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:25 am
Vassenor wrote:Blasted Craigs wrote:http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/16/cnn-reporter-compares-trump-to-hitler-while-her-boss-buys-obama-photos/
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/cnn-goes-there-on-trumps-campaign-adolph-hitler-when-he-first-rose-to-power-was-elected/
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/08/16/dem-congressman-cnn-trump-presidency-replay-hitlers-rise-power/
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/14/trump-condemns-racism-jpm-orig.cnn
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/liberal-activists-if-you-voted-for-trump-youre-to-blame-for-charlottesville
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/ordinary-white-supremacists/index.html
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/09/van-jones-says-the-election-is-whitelash-against-a-changing-country/
Literally a 5-10 minute search.
Really?
Seeing a lot of stuff about Trump himself, but not a whole lot of "calling Trump supporters Nazis and Rapists".
by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:30 am
Blasted Craigs wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Seeing a lot of stuff about Trump himself, but not a whole lot of "calling Trump supporters Nazis and Rapists".
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/ordinary-white-supremacists/index.html
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/09/van-jones-says-the-election-is-whitelash-against-a-changing-country/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/liberal-activists-if-you-voted-for-trump-youre-to-blame-for-charlottesville
These three in particular refer to supporters as "racists" and "white Supremacists".
The Whitelashing article in particular claims that the only reason Trump was elected was due to his supporters being "racist"
The Michael Moore interview in the OP, Moore called Trump supporters, ALL Trump supporters, racists and rapists, and the interviewers only response was that that was an uncomfortable comparison, not once saying this does not reflect all Trump supporters.
by Vassenor » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:30 am
Blasted Craigs wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Seeing a lot of stuff about Trump himself, but not a whole lot of "calling Trump supporters Nazis and Rapists".
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/ordinary-white-supremacists/index.html
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/09/van-jones-says-the-election-is-whitelash-against-a-changing-country/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/liberal-activists-if-you-voted-for-trump-youre-to-blame-for-charlottesville
These three in particular refer to supporters as "racists" and "white Supremacists".
The Whitelashing article in particular claims that the only reason Trump was elected was due to his supporters being "racist"
The Michael Moore interview in the OP, Moore called Trump supporters, ALL Trump supporters, racists and rapists, and the interviewers only response was that that was an uncomfortable comparison, not once saying this does not reflect all Trump supporters.
by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:42 am
Vassenor wrote:Blasted Craigs wrote:http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/ordinary-white-supremacists/index.html
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/09/van-jones-says-the-election-is-whitelash-against-a-changing-country/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/liberal-activists-if-you-voted-for-trump-youre-to-blame-for-charlottesville
These three in particular refer to supporters as "racists" and "white Supremacists".
The Whitelashing article in particular claims that the only reason Trump was elected was due to his supporters being "racist"
The Michael Moore interview in the OP, Moore called Trump supporters, ALL Trump supporters, racists and rapists, and the interviewers only response was that that was an uncomfortable comparison, not once saying this does not reflect all Trump supporters.
So a blog with a pretty heavy right-wing bias, one commentator and an article that talks about tacit acceptance rather than outright support.
by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:44 am
by Vassenor » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:44 am
Blasted Craigs wrote:Vassenor wrote:
So a blog with a pretty heavy right-wing bias, one commentator and an article that talks about tacit acceptance rather than outright support.
Nice attempt to derail, the "right leaning site" referenced a CNN article. Soooo....your point is to imply it is fake news, even though they quoted CNN?
To be frank, I hate this divisive reporting on both sides. I hated it when they blamed Obama for everything from cancer to slow WIFI signals nearly as much, and when they portrayed Obama supporters as "reverse racists".
He was our duly elected President, and while in office, should have been respected as such.
Same goes for our current President IMHO. And to claim that supporters of either are degenerates or lowlifes is divisive, and should be discouraged IMHO.
But, this trend to defame a President and his/her supporters has been especially harsh this Presidency.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-harvard-study-cnn-nbc-trump-coverage-93-percent-negative/article/2623641
Byron York: Harvard study: CNN, NBC Trump coverage 93 percent negative
Overall, coverage was 80 % negative.
The numbers for previous presidents: Barack Obama, 41 percent negative, 59 percent positive; George W. Bush, 57 percent negative, 43 percent positive; and Bill Clinton, 60 percent negative, 40 percent positive.
Again, this overall negative reporting has resulted in actions like "bash a Fash" and the like, which is divisive and should not be accepted by any civilized society.
Hell, I would go so far as to call it hate speech IMHO.
by Blasted Craigs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:47 am
Vassenor wrote:Blasted Craigs wrote:Nice attempt to derail, the "right leaning site" referenced a CNN article. Soooo....your point is to imply it is fake news, even though they quoted CNN?
To be frank, I hate this divisive reporting on both sides. I hated it when they blamed Obama for everything from cancer to slow WIFI signals nearly as much, and when they portrayed Obama supporters as "reverse racists".
He was our duly elected President, and while in office, should have been respected as such.
Same goes for our current President IMHO. And to claim that supporters of either are degenerates or lowlifes is divisive, and should be discouraged IMHO.
But, this trend to defame a President and his/her supporters has been especially harsh this Presidency.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-harvard-study-cnn-nbc-trump-coverage-93-percent-negative/article/2623641
Byron York: Harvard study: CNN, NBC Trump coverage 93 percent negative
Overall, coverage was 80 % negative.
The numbers for previous presidents: Barack Obama, 41 percent negative, 59 percent positive; George W. Bush, 57 percent negative, 43 percent positive; and Bill Clinton, 60 percent negative, 40 percent positive.
Again, this overall negative reporting has resulted in actions like "bash a Fash" and the like, which is divisive and should not be accepted by any civilized society.
Hell, I would go so far as to call it hate speech IMHO.
Now is that negative coverage actually the result of bias, or just because he keeps doing stupid shit?
I know Trump likes to call anything that doesn't dance to his tune as fake news, but that doesn't make it true.
by Vassenor » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:55 am
Blasted Craigs wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Now is that negative coverage actually the result of bias, or just because he keeps doing stupid shit?
I know Trump likes to call anything that doesn't dance to his tune as fake news, but that doesn't make it true.
Saw this before I left, But to answer quickly...
Even the study admitted this is partially due to events surrounding the Presidency, but that it ...let me quote the article.
That said, the coverage of some news organizations was so negative, according to the Harvard study, that it seems hard to argue that the coverage was anywhere near a neutral presentation of facts. Assessing the tone of news coverage, the Harvard researchers found that CNN's Trump coverage was 93 percent negative, and seven percent positive. The researchers found the same numbers for NBC.
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by Albrenia » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:02 am
by Azurius » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:04 am
by Vassenor » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:05 am
Albrenia wrote:I guess it's easier to say "CNN is being meaaaan" for Trump than to admit 90% of the stuff he does is shitty.
As for racists supporting Trump, they obviously do. Not all Trump supporters are racist, nor even most of them, but doubtlessly some are.
by Trotskylvania » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:08 am
Blasted Craigs wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Now is that negative coverage actually the result of bias, or just because he keeps doing stupid shit?
I know Trump likes to call anything that doesn't dance to his tune as fake news, but that doesn't make it true.
Saw this before I left, But to answer quickly...
Even the study admitted this is partially due to events surrounding the Presidency, but that it ...let me quote the article.
That said, the coverage of some news organizations was so negative, according to the Harvard study, that it seems hard to argue that the coverage was anywhere near a neutral presentation of facts. Assessing the tone of news coverage, the Harvard researchers found that CNN's Trump coverage was 93 percent negative, and seven percent positive. The researchers found the same numbers for NBC.
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Blasted Craigs wrote:CNN, and by Proxy of supporting CNN the Southern Poverty Law Center, are being sued by Joni Turner for for defamation for CNN labeling Trump supporters as "Nazis" and comparing them to "Rapists".
Basically, the lawsuit states that Trump Supporters have been damaged by CNN's reporting, because CNN has reported as fact that if one is a Trump supporter, one is a Nazi, White Supremacist, and recently potentially a rapist. Specifically, Michael Moore in an interview saying Trump has in fact raped America, and by supporting Trump, one was a rapist. CNN refused to deny Trump supporters were rapists, or disclaim Moor's claims.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/michael-moore-suggests-trump-supporters-are-like-accomplices-to-rape/article/2631672
Video of interview, never does CNN disagree that Trump supporters are rapists or racists, simply says the fact is "uncomfortable".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=530&v=9AXl9XAckLY
The suit alleges and claims lives have been damaged because due to CNN's reporting on Trump, by labeling Trump supporters as racists, nazis, and rapists, have damaged their lives through defamation.
Any American who identifies as a Trump supporter can sign up.
Sign up link (it's real).
https://ourtakedown.com/
So, this lawyer is serious.
Her Twitter on the issue.
https://twitter.com/joniturnerlaw
So nationstates, what say you? Think she has a chance?
What do you think the impact of this case will be if successful?
Do you agree with this lawsuit?
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1-There is a chance IMHO.
2-It will hurt CNN, but I think CNN will continue to peddle inflammatory divisive news.
3-I agree, just don't know how much impact overall it will have.
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