The Christian Discussion thread IX: Pelagius Rising.

[Tarsonis]

HeLlO, i CaN dIsPrOvE rElIgIoN wItH oNe QuEsTiOn.

Yeah, those topics really are such a bane especially if it is a militant antitheist who sees genocide as an acceptable goal to wipe out religion nevermind the irony of those beliefs. I really want a legitimate misotheist on here one of these days so they will go on a tangent on how to "kill" the gods of humanity.

What is dead can never die.

[Benuty]

Yeah, those topics really are such a bane especially if it is a militant antitheist who sees genocide as an acceptable goal to wipe out religion nevermind the irony of those beliefs. I really want a legitimate misotheist on here one of these days so they will go on a tangent on how to "kill" the gods of humanity.

What is dead can never die.

The thing I don't get is even if this hypothetical genocide works not only will most of humanity be dead, but what is to say it will even stick? Most of the nations of the earth would be destroyed in this quest to violently rid of the world of religion, and more suffering will mankind have endured than at any point in history. All of humanity be reduced to ash, cinder, and bone with those left living in the stone age outside of an elite few. Only an absolute madman would ever undertake such a venture at all, but yet we see people unironically advocate for it.

[Tarsonis]

What is dead can never die.

The thing I don't get is even if this hypothetical genocide works not only will most of humanity be dead, but what is to say it will even stick? Most of the nations of the earth would be destroyed in this quest to violently rid of the world of religion, and more suffering will mankind have endured than at any point in history. All of humanity be reduced to ash, cinder, and bone with those left living in the stone age outside of an elite few. Only an absolute madman would ever undertake such a venture at all, but yet we see people unironically advocate for it.

Well I never accused of antitheists of having big picture comprehension

[The Parkus Empire]

You know I never have mentioned this, but there was a point I almost considered converting to Catholicism during one of my "lack of belief" phases when I was really young. I do wonder what would have gone down if I did go down that path in some alternate timeline.

Heh, Jews see Christianity as belief lite?

[Nordengrund]

Been a while since I posted here. How is everyone? And why have you not reached 500 pages yet?

We haven't had any 3rd century heretics on to speed through 50 pages.

To everyone:
How acceptable is it to express political views at Church? One member at my Church always wears a Trump hat when he volunteers for Wednesday dinners. While traveling in Massachusetts, a Presbyterian Church I passed by had a conspicuous Black Lives Matter sign on the front side of the building. Should individuals express their politics? I think we should be political when a certain course of action is obviously consistent with our theology, but these partisan examples are more questionable.

No one in my church seems overtly political, aside from my stepdad, though it’s mostly outside of church. My church definitely does lean conservative, though, both socially and fiscally.

[Nordengrund]

Been a while since I posted here. How is everyone? And why have you not reached 500 pages yet?

We haven't had any 3rd century heretics on to speed through 50 pages.

To everyone:
How acceptable is it to express political views at Church? One member at my Church always wears a Trump hat when he volunteers for Wednesday dinners. While traveling in Massachusetts, a Presbyterian Church I passed by had a conspicuous Black Lives Matter sign on the front side of the building. Should individuals express their politics? I think we should be political when a certain course of action is obviously consistent with our theology, but these partisan examples are more questionable.

No one in my church seems overtly political, aside from my stepdad, though it’s mostly outside of church. My church definitely does lean conservative, though, both socially and fiscally.

Really, the only time we discussed actual politics was during the 2016 Election as we talked about what we think of different candidates. Most of the teachers said they did not or could not support Trump, but may have reluctantly voted for him once he won the nomination. I personally wanted Carson, but I also liked Bush and Kasich. Well, I liked anyone who wasn’t Clinton or Trump, really.
Would’ve voted for Johnson if Clinton hadn’t been nominated for the Democrats

[Thermodolia]

So i don’t know if it’s been posted but the Rev. Billy Graham has died at the age of 99. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nat ... ies-at-99/

[Nordengrund]

So i don’t know if it’s been posted but the Rev. Billy Graham has died at the age of 99. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nat ... ies-at-99/

I was just about to post this. Thank you! It is sad to see him go.

[Sovaal]

So i don’t know if it’s been posted but the Rev. Billy Graham has died at the age of 99. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nat ... ies-at-99/

>Mandatory “religion has caused more hate and war then anything else” comment here<

Anyway, not exactly the most religious man alive, but still, R.I.P

[Nordengrund]

So i don’t know if it’s been posted but the Rev. Billy Graham has died at the age of 99. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nat ... ies-at-99/

>Mandatory “religion has caused more hate and war then anything else” comment here<

Anyway, not exactly the most religious man alive, but still, R.I.P

Of course he is not the most religious man alive, he's dead! Get it?

[Salus Maior]

Been a while since I posted here. How is everyone? And why have you not reached 500 pages yet?

We haven't had any 3rd century heretics on to speed through 50 pages.

To everyone:
How acceptable is it to express political views at Church? One member at my Church always wears a Trump hat when he volunteers for Wednesday dinners. While traveling in Massachusetts, a Presbyterian Church I passed by had a conspicuous Black Lives Matter sign on the front side of the building. Should individuals express their politics? I think we should be political when a certain course of action is obviously consistent with our theology, but these partisan examples are more questionable.

I don't think people should bring their politics into Church.

[Sovaal]

>Mandatory “religion has caused more hate and war then anything else” comment here<

Anyway, not exactly the most religious man alive, but still, R.I.P

Of course he is not the most religious man alive, he's dead! Get it?

Hah!

But not i was talking about myself.

[Salus Maior]

So i don’t know if it’s been posted but the Rev. Billy Graham has died at the age of 99. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nat ... ies-at-99/

I don't agree with his theology, and his "pray this prayer and you'll be saved" schtick that wasn't very effective. But at least he tried.

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

Unseemly men have once again, like the romans of the early Church period before them, accused us of cannabalism; these are the accusers:- jews, muslims, pagans, atheists, even protestant Christians. As God will not be mocked, they shall surely reap their due rewards at the appointed time; but for the exhortation of the Faith, let us who follow Jesus Christ learn to appreciate the greatest gift of God to man: the Holy Eucharist.


John 6:32-71 tells of the Disciples' initial shock and unbelief when first introduced to the truth of communion:

John 6
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.


But after the coming of the Holy Spirit, the significance of the Eucharist is revealed to us through the Gospel writings in the words of Our Lord:

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.


Lastly, for the tl:dr crowd...

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

So i don’t know if it’s been posted but the Rev. Billy Graham has died at the age of 99. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nat ... ies-at-99/

[Stonok]

So i don’t know if it’s been posted but the Rev. Billy Graham has died at the age of 99. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nat ... ies-at-99/

I don't agree with his theology, and his "pray this prayer and you'll be saved" schtick that wasn't very effective. But at least he tried.

Counselling hundreds of world leaders and ministering to 250 million people ain't bad.

The guy had some interesting awards. One of the few people from outside the British Commonwealth to receive a knighthood from Queen Elizabeth, first Protestant to receive an honorary degree from a Catholic school, etc.

[Nordengrund]

I don't agree with his theology, and his "pray this prayer and you'll be saved" schtick that wasn't very effective. But at least he tried.

Counselling hundreds of world leaders and ministering to 250 million people ain't bad.

The guy had some interesting awards. One of the few people from outside the British Commonwealth to receive a knighthood from Queen Elizabeth, first Protestant to receive an honorary degree from a Catholic school, etc.

I’ve read that he and Queen Elizabeth were close friends who would occasionally visit each other.

[Benuty]

The salt against Billy Graham on Reddit is something else.

[Corpus Magnus]

Been a while since I posted here. How is everyone? And why have you not reached 500 pages yet?

We haven't had any 3rd century heretics on to speed through 50 pages.

To everyone:
How acceptable is it to express political views at Church? One member at my Church always wears a Trump hat when he volunteers for Wednesday dinners. While traveling in Massachusetts, a Presbyterian Church I passed by had a conspicuous Black Lives Matter sign on the front side of the building. Should individuals express their politics? I think we should be political when a certain course of action is obviously consistent with our theology, but these partisan examples are more questionable.

It would be pretty out of place in my church but I suppose you could if you wanted to. I have never seen anything like that, at any rate. Most Mormons have very similar political views anyway.

Do you realize that some of your family, your brother, mother, father and sister are screaming in torment in Hell ? You have no problem with that ?

Okay, this all depends on what the various sects believe in with regards to a negative afterlife. Some believe your soul gets completely obliterated ie Jehovah Witnesses while others believe something far worse is in store for you i.e the Mormons. Of course, they also tend to be a bit more lenient since their heaven has multiple layers of acceptance you don't even have to be Mormon or even a weak Christian to get into one of the heavens. This all, of course, assumes the fact hell is objectively real as you seem to believe, but we do not know for sure.

In what way is our afterlife more negative than yours?

[Industrial West Virginia]

I don't agree with his theology, and his "pray this prayer and you'll be saved" schtick that wasn't very effective. But at least he tried.

Counselling hundreds of world leaders and ministering to 250 million people ain't bad.

The guy had some interesting awards. One of the few people from outside the British Commonwealth to receive a knighthood from Queen Elizabeth, first Protestant to receive an honorary degree from a Catholic school, etc.

Yeah, I mean he wasn't a bad Christian (who are we to judge?) but his theology was a bit wack. Of course, he seemed as if the state of his heart was saved, but you never know now and days. I see plenty of people claiming Christianity but only being a very loose cultural Christian, and not following any of the (widely agreed upon) Christian theological points. So you really never know if a claim to be Christian will always mean a changed heart to Christ. He seemed a saved man, but again you never know. Men can be corrupted every which way. Even inside of religion, and especially inside of religion.

[Cedoria]

The salt against Billy Graham on Reddit is something else.

Pfft, that's nothing. You should hear what I say about him...

[Stonok]

The salt against Billy Graham on Reddit is something else.

Pfft, that's nothing. You should hear what I say about him...

>The antitheists have arrived

[Northern Davincia]

Pfft, that's nothing. You should hear what I say about him...

>The antitheists have arrived

To Deus vult, or not to Deus vult? That is the question.

[Luminesa]

The salt against Billy Graham on Reddit is something else.

Pfft, that's nothing. You should hear what I say about him...

...Anything in particular?

[Dylar]

>The antitheists have arrived

To Deus vult, or not to Deus vult? That is the question.

Silly ND, the answer is always Deus vult!