The Christian Discussion thread IX: Pelagius Rising.

[Salus Maior]

I'm adding more as I find them.

And besides, this is more than enough evidence.

Three literally all 1 or 2 incidents.

"hundreds of incidents".

[The of Japan]

Three literally all 1 or 2 incidents.

"hundreds of incidents".

one guy said in one article that he claims there are hundreds of incidents, the articles were specifically reporting on one church in galilee being burnt down.

[Salus Maior]

"hundreds of incidents".

one guy said in one article that he claims there are hundreds of incidents, the articles were specifically reporting on one church in galilee being burnt down.

And the graffiti, and other cases of vandalism and a threat to kill a Bishop.

You didn't actually read any of them did you?

[The of Japan]

one guy said in one article that he claims there are hundreds of incidents, the articles were specifically reporting on one church in galilee being burnt down.

And the graffiti.

on the burnt church.

[Salus Maior]

And the graffiti.

on the burnt church.

And other churches.

Goddamn, you've barely read anything.

[The of Japan]

on the burnt church.

And other churches.

Goddamn, you've barely read anything.

and other churches, yeah, but that doesn't mean Christians are worse off than in most other arab countries.

[Salus Maior]

And other churches.

Goddamn, you've barely read anything.

and other churches, yeah, but that doesn't mean Christians are worse off than in most other arab countries.

Yeah, I guess that's why most Israeli Christians are leaving the country.

[The of Japan]

and other churches, yeah, but that doesn't mean Christians are worse off than in most other arab countries.

Yeah, I guess that's why most Israeli Christians are leaving the country.

to the west, not to neighbors, and Israel isnt totally secular in practice.

[Salus Maior]

Yeah, I guess that's why most Israeli Christians are leaving the country.

to the west, not to neighbors, and Israel isnt totally secular in practice.

So I guess you're fine with the idea of the holy land being drained of its population?

Hell, one day there'll probably be no Christians left in the Middle East.

[The of Japan]

to the west, not to neighbors, and Israel isnt totally secular in practice.

So I guess you're fine with the idea of the holy land being drained of its population?

Hell, one day there'll probably be no Christians left in the Middle East.

they are leaving voluntarilally, and most Christians were in Nineveh plains and Lebanon, and other areas, not in modern day Israel, the west bank, and gaza strip.

[Salus Maior]

So I guess you're fine with the idea of the holy land being drained of its population?

Hell, one day there'll probably be no Christians left in the Middle East.

they are leaving voluntarilally, and most Christians were in Nineveh plains and Lebanon, and other areas, not in modern day Israel, the west bank, and gaza strip.

They're leaving because they're being treated like shit, and Israel's fine with that because now there's more room for Zionists.

There were a number of very old Christian communities in Judea. In fact, I believe Bethlehem (or Nazereth, one of the two) was Christian majority. Not anymore though.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

to the west, not to neighbors, and Israel isnt totally secular in practice.

So I guess you're fine with the idea of the holy land being drained of its population?

Hell, one day there'll probably be no Christians left in the Middle East.

And in that day, just when they think they're safe....

[Genivaria]

So I guess you're fine with the idea of the holy land being drained of its population?

Hell, one day there'll probably be no Christians left in the Middle East.

And in that day, just when they think they're safe....

See this shit would never have happened if the Byzantines were still in charge. *nods*

[United Muscovite Nations]

And in that day, just when they think they're safe....

See this shit would never have happened if the Byzantines were still in charge. *nods*

Exactly. Constantinople doesn't need Gallic barbarians at her gates. That's why I'm here, the leader of the Julii...

[Genivaria]

See this shit would never have happened if the Byzantines were still in charge. *nods*

Exactly. Constantinople doesn't need Gallic barbarians at her gates. That's why I'm here, the leader of the Julii...

Went from CK2 to Rome TW, nice.
Gauls...I hate Gauls, my grandfather hated them to.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Exactly. Constantinople doesn't need Gallic barbarians at her gates. That's why I'm here, the leader of the Julii...

Went from CK2 to Rome TW, nice.
Gauls...I hate Gauls, my grandfather hated them to.

I'm angry they stopped having those really cheesy openings to campaigns.

[Genivaria]

Went from CK2 to Rome TW, nice.
Gauls...I hate Gauls, my grandfather hated them to.

I'm angry they stopped having those really cheesy openings to campaigns.

I loved Medieval 2: Kingdoms where the narrator had to really work to fit "TOTAL WAR!" into the narration.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I'm angry they stopped having those really cheesy openings to campaigns.

I loved Medieval 2: Kingdoms where the narrator had to really work to fit "TOTAL WAR!" into the narration.

Yeah; Rome I and Medieval II had hilarious voice acting.

[Dylar]

I loved Medieval 2: Kingdoms where the narrator had to really work to fit "TOTAL WAR!" into the narration.

Yeah; Rome I and Medieval II had hilarious voice acting.

Stronghold 2 had some as well.

[Genivaria]

Yeah; Rome I and Medieval II had hilarious voice acting.

Stronghold 2 had some as well.

Oh dear god that game...memories.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

......your sitting here just talking...shame. Why aren't you retaking the holy lands?!?!!??!
Deus Vult

[Dylar]

......your sitting here just talking...shame. Why aren't you retaking the holy lands?!?!!??!
Deus Vult

Cause it doesn't need to be retaken...yet.

[Dylar]

Stronghold 2 had some as well.

Oh dear god that game...memories.

"What am I supposed to do with all these sheep? Give them each a sword and send them forth into battle?"

[Pasong Tirad]

Prayers for the Philippines, please! Thousands of poor people are being killed in our streets and our government is inching us closer and closer to a corrupt fascist dictatorship. I'm going to be spending half my time next week in protests and work (cause I still gotta feed my family hahaha), please pray for me as well!

[The Parkus Empire]

it would be foolish to deny that God has worked through Earthly kingdoms and empires to help spread the Gospel and make Christendom what it is.

Not by the sword. But by rulers being converted, yes.

If it weren't for Constantine's support of the Church, and the Emperors who followed him (who weren't heretics anyway), Christianity probably would have never become as influential as it is, likely remaining a persecuted minority in the West (and the Orthodox East) and not reaching nearly as many people.

That's correct, and Constantine did enormous good for both the Church and the world. Many emperors, however, as you noted, were actually heretics, and often slaughtered those who didn't get in line, the last and worst were the iconoclasts. But by God's grace we never fought a civil war over doctrine, even though the conflicts over it were quite heated even until Constantinople fell.