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The Christian Discussion thread IX: Pelagius Rising.

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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
273
34%
Eastern Orthodox
67
8%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
53
7%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
95
12%
Methodist
29
4%
Baptist
89
11%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
52
7%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
18
2%
Other Christian
113
14%
 
Total votes : 795

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Mladorossiya
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Postby Mladorossiya » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:25 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Changing a religion because of national identity is the most conformist, spineless, borg-like thing I can envision.

Why so vehement? You've got to understand that not everyone is an individualist.
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Tarsonis
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Tarsonis » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:45 pm

Lux Pulchrae wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
“The seven sacraments touch all the stages and all the important moments of Christian life:1 they give birth and increase, healing and mission to the Christian's life of faith. ”

The sacraments are rituals in which we engage both physically and mystically with the Spirit of God. The chiefmost of the sacraments is the Eucharist toward which all other sacraments are ordered. They are rituals that nurture the faith of the Church and the individual.


Protestants being bereft of most sacraments beyond Baptism and Marriage do not receive the fullness of faithfulness that the Catholic Church enjoys. However we acknowledge the validity of their baptism and the presence of the spirit at work within the seperated communtiities, imperfect as it may be.

Sacraments do not grant salvation. They sustain our faith throughout our lives. Only the grace of God grants salvation.


>sacraments do not grant salvation.

What about baptism or the BLESSED SACRAMENT? Without which we would not be saved and unable to be with Christ. Apart from that I wouldn't disagree


Baptism alone does not grant salvation neither does the Eucharist. Baptism confers the regeneration that we might live and take part in the other sacraments and in the church, marking us as a priest of the universe church.

The Eucharist is the “source and summit of the Christian life”. By all manner are we called to the alter of the Lord, to consume the blessed sacrament and commune with the divine.

But these do not convey salvation. These sustain the Christian life, and point the sinner towards Heaven. Salvation comes only from the grace of God, through the sacrifice of Christ.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:06 am

I’m in the middle of moving/heading out of town, won’t really be in contact for a week or so. So since we’re at 499 I went ahead and made the new thread.

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Proud NS Keyboard Warrior since 2005.
Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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