The Christian Discussion thread IX: Pelagius Rising.

[Northern Davincia]

Another triumph for the Orthodox conspiracy:

https://neoskosmos.com/en/116891/africa ... -orthodox/

If they were non-Christian before conversion, I am delighted.

[Ieskarios]

Another triumph for the Orthodox conspiracy:

https://neoskosmos.com/en/116891/africa ... -orthodox/

This is awesome. I hope Orthodoxy only grows in Africa.

Long live Orthodoxy in Africa.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Ok so I've wondered about a topic for a while now. Which Commandment do you find yourself in the most difficult position to follow. or which one do you find the most broken by you?

Serious question...

Whose count are we following for the purposes of this discussion? The Orthodox/Anglican/Calvinist count, the Catholic count, or the Lutheran count? They're all subtly different.

'Thou shalt not kill', for example, is 6 for us, but 5 for the Catholics and Lutherans (IIRC).

Not that I'm implying that's the one I break most often, mind... It would be slightly worrying if it was.

This is a less assholery way of putting my point.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

What should a Christian do when it's hard to be around someone without getting angry? I have a friend whom I adore as a person but who sometimes enrage me because of how hateful towards people who disagree with them they can be, and how baseless many of their ideas are. Convincing them to change their approaches hasn't worked and we've been fighting daily lately.

I don't intend to get enraged so much and I always feel like I've disgraced my faith afterwards, but I so easily get provoked by them sometimes. How should a Christian handle this?

I mean, just as a person, that sounds like a toxic friendship. Fighting daily with a friend who won't change from the way that is making you angry is not a quality friendship and should be ended. If they won't change, there's not much you can do.

[Tarsonis]

What should a Christian do when it's hard to be around someone without getting angry? I have a friend whom I adore as a person but who sometimes enrage me because of how hateful towards people who disagree with them they can be, and how baseless many of their ideas are. Convincing them to change their approaches hasn't worked and we've been fighting daily lately.

I don't intend to get enraged so much and I always feel like I've disgraced my faith afterwards, but I so easily get provoked by them sometimes. How should a Christian handle this?

I say thunderdome, but that’s just me. In my experience those arguments are necessary, because once you both calm down you both realize how crazy it was to get that worked up and are more amenable to finding common ground.

[Nordengrund]

I notice a lot of NS’ers put their beliefs and views and any other info (such as their ethnic mix) into their signatures, and I thought about doing the same, but I’m wondering if anyone really cares whether you’re a Christian or an Atheist, a traditionalist monarchist or a progressivist?

[Ieskarios]

I notice a lot of NS’ers put their beliefs and views and any other info (such as their ethnic mix) into their signatures, and I thought about doing the same, but I’m wondering if anyone really cares whether you’re a Christian or an Atheist, a traditionalist monarchist or a progressivist?

For me, I don't care whether or not somebody isn't interested in the details of my bio. It's just a way for people to know where I line up ideologically.

[Ndaku]

I notice a lot of NS’ers put their beliefs and views and any other info (such as their ethnic mix) into their signatures, and I thought about doing the same, but I’m wondering if anyone really cares whether you’re a Christian or an Atheist, a traditionalist monarchist or a progressivist?

Many people glance at others' sigs just to get an idea of who that person may be, and because these sigs are literally before them. Many also toggle spoilers and check out links from sigs without providing feedback to the sig owner most of the time. So if you feel you want to include some information about who you are, it's up to you, but you won't get much feedback from people unless whatever you put in your sig has controversial stuff.

[Benuty]

Honestly, protestants lost their way the moment they stopped protesting the Catholic church, and just became normal.

[Tarsonis]

Honestly, protestants lost their way the moment they stopped protesting the Catholic church, and just became normal.

Oh it was way before then. Like round 1517

[Benuty]

Honestly, protestants lost their way the moment they stopped protesting the Catholic church, and just became normal.

Oh, it was way before then. Like round 1517

Eh...in terms of validity only the original generation sects who protested against the Catholic church can really still be considered "Protestant". Everything else is just a damn mess of theology that needs to be placed under a new wing of thought.

[Auze]

Honestly, protestants lost their way the moment they stopped protesting the Catholic church, and just became normal.

Oh it was way before then. Like round 1517

Oh it was way before then. Like round 200

[Auze]

Oh, it was way before then. Like round 1517

Eh...in terms of validity only the original generation sects who protested against the Catholic church can really still be considered "Protestant". Everything else is just a damn mess of theology that needs to be placed under a new wing of thought.

Let's call it:
Donegrefpanomedi
Which is the combined and cut google translate Latin words for "a damn mess of theology that needs to be placed under a new wing of thought"

[Tarsonis]

Oh it was way before then. Like round 1517

Oh it was way before then. Like round 200

*citation needed*.


At least we can pinpoint leaders and events, rather than relying on general presuppositions

[Tarsonis]

Eh...in terms of validity only the original generation sects who protested against the Catholic church can really still be considered "Protestant". Everything else is just a damn mess of theology that needs to be placed under a new wing of thought.

Let's call it:
Donegrefpanomedi
Which is the combined and cut google translate Latin words for "a damn mess of theology that needs to be placed under a new wing of thought"

Funny I didn’t think there was a word for Mormon in Latin..

[Hakons]

Honestly, protestants lost their way the moment they stopped protesting the Catholic church, and just became normal.

Protestant denominations used to be more distinct from one another, but now they mostly seem the same. In my opinion, most Protestants are de facto nondenominational. They switch between denominations frequently and have very similar theology.

These two things, the lack of anything for Protestants to protest and the de facto nondenominationalism is why I've gradually felt pulled away from Protestantism and towards traditional Christianity.

This means I'm considering Catholicism right now.

[Tarsonis]

Honestly, protestants lost their way the moment they stopped protesting the Catholic church, and just became normal.

Protestant denominations used to be more distinct from one another, but now they mostly seem the same. In my opinion, most Protestants are de facto nondenominational. They switch between denominations frequently and have very similar theology.

These two things, the lack of anything for Protestants to protest and the de facto nondenominationalism is why I've gradually felt pulled away from Protestantism and towards traditional Christianity.

This means I'm considering Catholicism right now.

Thats what did it for me


I learned more in one year form this thread, then I learned in 25 years of Protestant upbringing

[Salus Maior]

Protestant denominations used to be more distinct from one another, but now they mostly seem the same. In my opinion, most Protestants are de facto nondenominational. They switch between denominations frequently and have very similar theology.

These two things, the lack of anything for Protestants to protest and the de facto nondenominationalism is why I've gradually felt pulled away from Protestantism and towards traditional Christianity.

This means I'm considering Catholicism right now.

Thats what did it for me


I learned more in one year form this thread, then I learned in 25 years of Protestant upbringing

Why do you think it is that American Christians aren't too well educated on Christianity? Even historical Protestantism?

[Tarsonis]

Thats what did it for me


I learned more in one year form this thread, then I learned in 25 years of Protestant upbringing

Why do you think it is that American Christians aren't too well educated on Christianity? Even historical Protestantism?

Because most Americans Protestant denominations were influenced by the rise of fundamentalism which eschews traditionalism, did “Bible centric” ideology. They eschew the context of the Bible, and thus 90% of the knowledge that goes into the Bible.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Thats what did it for me


I learned more in one year form this thread, then I learned in 25 years of Protestant upbringing

Why do you think it is that American Christians aren't too well educated on Christianity? Even historical Protestantism?

I think that America in general could do well with more education on religion. Not just Christianity but religion in general. Religion has become far too stigmatized in public education.

[Northern Davincia]

Let's call it:
Donegrefpanomedi
Which is the combined and cut google translate Latin words for "a damn mess of theology that needs to be placed under a new wing of thought"

Funny I didn’t think there was a word for Mormon in Latin..

My dude.

[Lord Dominator]

Ok so I've wondered about a topic for a while now. Which Commandment do you find yourself in the most difficult position to follow. or which one do you find the most broken by you?

The adultery one (in regards to thoughts), and lying

Why do you think it is that American Christians aren't too well educated on Christianity? Even historical Protestantism?

Because most Americans Protestant denominations were influenced by the rise of fundamentalism which eschews traditionalism, did “Bible centric” ideology. They eschew the context of the Bible, and thus 90% of the knowledge that goes into the Bible.

I personally think my church/pastors (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) do a pretty good job with context & actually looking at what the assorted people who write the books actually meant

Why do you think it is that American Christians aren't too well educated on Christianity? Even historical Protestantism?

I think that America in general could do well with more education on religion. Not just Christianity but religion in general. Religion has become far too stigmatized in public education.

Agreed, basic education on what's out there is a must

[Conserative Morality]

Why do you think it is that American Christians aren't too well educated on Christianity? Even historical Protestantism?

Because most Americans Protestant denominations were influenced by the rise of fundamentalism which eschews traditionalism, did “Bible centric” ideology. They eschew the context of the Bible, and thus 90% of the knowledge that goes into the Bible.

Was evangelical, can confirm. Sola scriptura damaged young me's faith very badly once I started to care enough to look into the context of it all. My church cared more about proving dinosaurs walked with Christ* than trying to iron out some millenia of theology, before and since the gospels were recorded.

*not quite but you get the picture

[Tarsonis]

Because most Americans Protestant denominations were influenced by the rise of fundamentalism which eschews traditionalism, did “Bible centric” ideology. They eschew the context of the Bible, and thus 90% of the knowledge that goes into the Bible.

Was evangelical, can confirm. Sola scriptura damaged young me's faith very badly once I started to care enough to look into the context of it all. My church cared more about proving dinosaurs walked with Christ* than trying to iron out some millenia of theology, before and since the gospels were recorded.

*not quite but you get the picture

Fortunately, this thread of all things saved me from such ignorance

[Lord Dominator]

Was evangelical, can confirm. Sola scriptura damaged young me's faith very badly once I started to care enough to look into the context of it all. My church cared more about proving dinosaurs walked with Christ* than trying to iron out some millenia of theology, before and since the gospels were recorded.

*not quite but you get the picture

Fortunately, this thread of all things saved me from such ignorance

What saved me from said ignorance (this was more parents than Church) was realizing that is was A: stupid & B: I don't really care that much how metaphorical or not Genesis is