The Christian Discussion thread IX: Pelagius Rising.

[Claorica]

Okay, to be honest, I don't really get into researching the "LDS Church" or the "FUNdamentalist Latter Day Saints"(even though i vaguely remember hearing about them before), I just focus on the Bible and follow that.

I guess I could almost say I really don't have a denomination. But I do have to be careful about what I get influenced by because of that.

I did consider myself non-denominational for awhile, but in my experience, non-dems are just Southern Baptists with contemporary worship and speaking in tongues. Ironically, I’ve found more fundamentalism in those kinds of churches than I did in traditional SBC ones. Like, “Harry Potter is demonic” kind of fundamentalism.

There are some restorationist non-dom churches that have broken from the stereotypical SBC roots and have somewhat cleaved ourselves closer to our presbyterian roots.

[Auze]

Sure you didn't say Methodism specifically, but Protestantism is still a loose association of those denominations, joined in opposition to the the Apostolic Churches.




No, you didn't rationalize what Guelder was saying. Guelder has expressed his desire to join LDS, and Auze was trying to assist him. You attempted to disuade him from this goal, by calling the Mormon church heretics who have forsaken the Holy Spirit.

We may agree on that, but they do not. Thus, out of context from a lengthy debate, you assertion was biased dogmatism. You're only insisting your actions were in the right, because it's what you believe. But when someone who believes differently than you, hits you back with the exact same argument, you have a hissy fit. Essentially you inserted yourself into a situation you weren't a part of, and engaged in a line of dialogue offensive to the people involved. It's one thing to poke at Mormonism in the context of interdenominational debate that occurs in this thread, it's another to directly disparage another persons religious beliefs without regard to their personhood. And then, you took offense when it was done to you and only when it was done to you. You didn't mind when it was done to me or anyone else. You'll disparage the beliefs of others but God forbid someone yours.

Don't call your hypocrisy, Christianity, it's anything but.

To be fair, he wasn't advocating for Protestantism necessarily either. He was simply advocating for Trinitarianism.

Might want to reread his original post.

Sadly no, i have only a bycicle

How far it is to travel should not determine what religion you join. Join the Church that God calls you to, the Church that spreads and maintains the message of Christ.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend being baptized into Mormonism, since they haven't maintained the Gospel. I would stick to your course and get baptized at the Protestant Church. There you will be baptized and filled with the spirit of the one triune God, something the Mormons forsake.

[Auze]

Sigh... Is it too much to ask for you to recognize the validity of Protestant baptism? I began by stating that Guelder should choose the Church that God leads him to. I then suggested for him to avoid Mormonism, since they don't believe in the one triune God. I suggested the Protestant Church since Guelder already said that was his plan ("I would stick to your course..."). I merely offered more rationale to that decision based on concrete theological reasons. It is obviously better to be baptised in the name of God and not a heretical version.

Sure, but you can't expect me to pass up a golden opportunity like that. If you're just gonna lob them up there. As you see I've created a pasta chain that everyone's getting in on.

Until I accidentally'd it's continuity. Sorry.

[Hakons]

To be fair, he wasn't advocating for Protestantism necessarily either. He was simply advocating for Trinitarianism.

Might want to reread his original post.

How far it is to travel should not determine what religion you join. Join the Church that God calls you to, the Church that spreads and maintains the message of Christ.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend being baptized into Mormonism, since they haven't maintained the Gospel. I would stick to your course and get baptized at the Protestant Church. There you will be baptized and filled with the spirit of the one triune God, something the Mormons forsake.

In reference to the Church he was planning to get baptized at. That's why I said "the Protestant Church," and not "a Protestant Church."

[Northern Davincia]

Sure, but you can't expect me to pass up a golden opportunity like that. If you're just gonna lob them up there. As you see I've created a pasta chain that everyone's getting in on.

Until I accidentally'd it's continuity. Sorry.

I have the most fun in this thread whenever the Mormon Wars flare up.

Might want to reread his original post.

In reference to the Church he was planning to get baptized at. That's why I said "the Protestant Church," and not "a Protestant Church."

Why bother with a heretical church?

[Salus Maior]

Good guy Frank.

[The Alexanderians]

I did consider myself non-denominational for awhile, but in my experience, non-dems are just Southern Baptists with contemporary worship and speaking in tongues. Ironically, I’ve found more fundamentalism in those kinds of churches than I did in traditional SBC ones. Like, “Harry Potter is demonic” kind of fundamentalism.

That's kind of weird you haven't found that very much. When I was a kid, the Baptists in town weren't allowed to read Harry Potter because it was about witchcraft.

And Pokemon was satanic demonology.

[Lower Nubia]

That's kind of weird you haven't found that very much. When I was a kid, the Baptists in town weren't allowed to read Harry Potter because it was about witchcraft.

And Pokemon was satanic demonology.

The classic: "It's evil! Did you know Pokémon means Demon in your pocket?! It's a snare of the world!"

[The Alexanderians]

And Pokemon was satanic demonology.

The classic: "It's evil! Did you know Pokémon means Demon in your pocket?! It's a snare of the world!"

In other news my priest finally introduced his daughters to pokemon. I have students to teach now!

[United Muscovite Nations]

About two months ago, my grandfather was diagnosed with lymphoma, and, before he could begin treatment, he was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing form of Alzheimer's Disease that has quickly diminished his mental capacity. To receive treatment for his cancer, he would have to get an invasive surgery to move his pacemaker, and then receive radiation therapy that we're told could kill him, and which he wouldn't understand due to his mental deterioration. As a result, on the advice of the surgeon and neurologist, our family has taken the decision to allow him to pass away on in-home hospice care. The doctors say he will most likely die within six months. Please pray for him.

[Genivaria]

About two months ago, my grandfather was diagnosed with lymphoma, and, before he could begin treatment, he was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing form of Alzheimer's Disease that has quickly diminished his mental capacity. To receive treatment for his cancer, he would have to get an invasive surgery to move his pacemaker, and then receive radiation therapy that we're told could kill him, and which he wouldn't understand due to his mental deterioration. As a result, on the advice of the surgeon and neurologist, our family has taken the decision to allow him to pass away on in-home hospice care. The doctors say he will most likely die within six months. Please pray for him.

I am very sorry for your loss, really.

[Lower Nubia]

About two months ago, my grandfather was diagnosed with lymphoma, and, before he could begin treatment, he was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing form of Alzheimer's Disease that has quickly diminished his mental capacity. To receive treatment for his cancer, he would have to get an invasive surgery to move his pacemaker, and then receive radiation therapy that we're told could kill him, and which he wouldn't understand due to his mental deterioration. As a result, on the advice of the surgeon and neurologist, our family has taken the decision to allow him to pass away on in-home hospice care. The doctors say he will most likely die within six months. Please pray for him.

God be with him and his loved ones.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

About two months ago, my grandfather was diagnosed with lymphoma, and, before he could begin treatment, he was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing form of Alzheimer's Disease that has quickly diminished his mental capacity. To receive treatment for his cancer, he would have to get an invasive surgery to move his pacemaker, and then receive radiation therapy that we're told could kill him, and which he wouldn't understand due to his mental deterioration. As a result, on the advice of the surgeon and neurologist, our family has taken the decision to allow him to pass away on in-home hospice care. The doctors say he will most likely die within six months. Please pray for him.

I’ll keep him in my prayers.

[Auze]

Until I accidentally'd it's continuity. Sorry.

I have the most fun in this thread whenever the Mormon Wars flare up.

...Which is why you try to reignite them every once in a while, much to everybody's chagrin.

[Genivaria]

Question.
Are the socio-political ramifications of various Christian thought and denominations relevant to this thread or is this more just a theological discussion?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Question.
Are the socio-political ramifications of various Christian thought and denominations relevant to this thread or is this more just a theological discussion?

More theological.

[Genivaria]

Question.
Are the socio-political ramifications of various Christian thought and denominations relevant to this thread or is this more just a theological discussion?

More theological.

Fair enough.

[Cappuccina]

About two months ago, my grandfather was diagnosed with lymphoma, and, before he could begin treatment, he was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing form of Alzheimer's Disease that has quickly diminished his mental capacity. To receive treatment for his cancer, he would have to get an invasive surgery to move his pacemaker, and then receive radiation therapy that we're told could kill him, and which he wouldn't understand due to his mental deterioration. As a result, on the advice of the surgeon and neurologist, our family has taken the decision to allow him to pass away on in-home hospice care. The doctors say he will most likely die within six months. Please pray for him.

Worry not, God is with him and your family. My prayers will go to you this evening.

[Nordengrund]

I did consider myself non-denominational for awhile, but in my experience, non-dems are just Southern Baptists with contemporary worship and speaking in tongues. Ironically, I’ve found more fundamentalism in those kinds of churches than I did in traditional SBC ones. Like, “Harry Potter is demonic” kind of fundamentalism.

That's kind of weird you haven't found that very much. When I was a kid, the Baptists in town weren't allowed to read Harry Potter because it was about witchcraft.

Might depend on the type of Baptist. I’m Southern Baptist, but I never really experienced any of that. My mom was cool with my watching Harry Potter as young as five years old. The only one she didn’t let me watch was I think Goblet of Fire, only because she thought Voldemort would scare me.

I think Southern Baptists have gotten better with the legalism thing, though some Baptist groups like Indepedent and Free Will Baptists tend to adhere closer to the stereotypes than us, but are often mistaken we or mixed up for Southern Baptists.

I’m not saying there aren’t churches in the SBC like this, just that my experience with them has been pretty different from what I often hear other say about them.

As for Non-dem churches, the youth pastor did tell us to burn anything we had that was “witchcraft”, including Harry Potter. I don’t know anyone who went through wit it, and I’ve never heard any preach anything similar in a Southern Baptist Church.
I did go to an SDA school that wasn’t big on Harry Potter, but Eragon was alright.

[Negarakita]

Thoughts on Liberation Theology?

[Cappuccina]

Thoughts on Liberation Theology?

What is that?

[Negarakita]

Thoughts on Liberation Theology?

What is that?

Very leftist catholicism, originating in South America.

[Tarsonis]

What is that?

Very leftist catholicism, originating in South America.

Hardly unique to Catholicism.

[Genivaria]

Thoughts on Liberation Theology?

The opposite of the borderline sociopathic Prosperity Theology taught around my area?

[Hakons]

Thoughts on Liberation Theology?

The opposite of the borderline sociopathic Prosperity Theology taught around my area?

My pastor condemned prosperity gospel just last Sunday in the homily.

The Gospel doesn't guarantee success, and Christ even warns us of excess trouble that may arrise from following Him.

I couldn't stand having to sit through a sermon from an Olsteen-esque pastor.