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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
273
34%
Eastern Orthodox
67
8%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
53
7%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
95
12%
Methodist
29
4%
Baptist
89
11%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
52
7%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
18
2%
Other Christian
113
14%
 
Total votes : 795
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:33 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Catholic Dogma is true though.

Not gonna pull at that thread and start High Church hostilities.


I don't see it as hostile in all honesty. Granted I'm not perfectly versed in Orthodox vs Catholic Dogma (working on it, but the literature is extensive). As I currently sit I see the Catholic Church has been willing to Codify Dogma while the Orthodox isn't, but that doesn't make their dogmas conflicted.
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Stonok
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Postby Stonok » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:35 pm

I feel like I'm surrounded by people who secretly wish to burn me at the stake.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:37 pm

Stonok wrote:I feel like I'm surrounded by people who secretly wish to burn me at the stake.


Nope.
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The Alexanderians
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:37 pm

Stonok wrote:I feel like I'm surrounded by people who secretly wish to burn me at the stake.

*kicks the rope and tinderbox under the bed*
I don't know what you're talking about.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Stonok » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:46 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Nope.

I didn't think so, but with all the Catholics and Orthodox about and just me and a couple other Protestants, I had to crack a burning joke.
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Postby Collatis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:57 pm

The Catholic Church Has Beheaded Neil deGrasse Tyson For His Heretical Claim That The Earth Revolves Around The Sun

Thoughts on this most glorious inquisition?
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The Alexanderians
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:02 pm


>Clickhole
Well we can disregard this completely.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Collatis
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Postby Collatis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:06 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:

>Clickhole
Well we can disregard this completely.

Are you implying Pope Francis didn't really behead Neil deGrasse Tyson???

:eek:
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EU, NATO, two-state solution, Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders
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Stonok
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Postby Stonok » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:07 pm


Absolutely halal
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The Alexanderians
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:12 pm

Collatis wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:>Clickhole
Well we can disregard this completely.

Are you implying Pope Francis didn't really behead Neil deGrasse Tyson???

:eek:

No I'm implying that Clickhole's quality is low so even parodies can be disregarded as trash.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Collatis
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Postby Collatis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:14 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Collatis wrote:Are you implying Pope Francis didn't really behead Neil deGrasse Tyson???

:eek:

No I'm implying that Clickhole's quality is low so even parodies can be disregarded as trash.

How sad :(
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EU, NATO, two-state solution, Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders
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death penalty, Marxism-Leninism, laissez faire, reaction, fascism,
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:22 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Collatis wrote:Are you implying Pope Francis didn't really behead Neil deGrasse Tyson???

:eek:

No I'm implying that Clickhole's quality is low so even parodies can be disregarded as trash.

Clickhole is hilarious. Eye of the Tiber is better, though.
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The Alexanderians
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:24 pm

Diopolis wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:No I'm implying that Clickhole's quality is low so even parodies can be disregarded as trash.

Clickhole is hilarious. Eye of the Tiber is better, though.

I like Babylon Bee personally.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:36 pm

Problem is they're tilting st the wrong windmill. Protestants are the science deniars these days, not Catholics.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:38 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Problem is they're tilting st the wrong windmill. Protestants are the science deniars these days, not Catholics.

Well, the geocentrist leadership are mostly Catholic, but their followers are all protestants.
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:51 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Problem is they're tilting st the wrong windmill. Protestants are the science deniars these days, not Catholics.

Well, the geocentrist leadership are mostly Catholic, but their followers are all protestants.


Ah Robert Sugenis, when conversion goes wrong....

If we offer him back do you think the Protestants will take him?
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:55 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Well, the geocentrist leadership are mostly Catholic, but their followers are all protestants.


Ah Robert Sugenis, when conversion goes wrong....

If we offer him back do you think the Protestants will take him?

Well, they'd have to agree with him about JFK as well as geocentrism and the holocaust... But on the other hand, I suspect those are linked, and we don't want him anymore either.
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Postby War Gears » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:15 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Shame you don't agree about Catholic Dogma :^)


Catholic Dogma is true though.


Didn't one of your guys' popes end up getting killed by an angry husband who found him sleeping with his wife?
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The Templar Order of God
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Postby The Templar Order of God » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:21 pm

any clerical fascists out there?
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Postby War Gears » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:24 pm

The Templar Order of God wrote:any clerical fascists out there?


I used to support something which could be considered Clerical Fascism (the Church having representatives in a corporate chamber).
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:32 pm

War Gears wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Catholic Dogma is true though.


Didn't one of your guys' popes end up getting killed by an angry husband who found him sleeping with his wife?

Yes. And? We don't believe in papal impeccability.
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Postby Stonok » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:37 pm

War Gears wrote:Didn't one of your guys' popes end up getting killed by an angry husband who found him sleeping with his wife?

Best Pope
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:48 pm

Stonok wrote:
War Gears wrote:Didn't one of your guys' popes end up getting killed by an angry husband who found him sleeping with his wife?

Best Pope

No, that would be the pope who blew the Vatican treasury on a party to watch a bunch of naked women crawling around on the floor scrabbling after chestnuts. Or possibly the one who tried his predecessor's corpse.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:50 pm

The Templar Order of God wrote:any clerical fascists out there?


I've been meaning to read up on it, and see if it can be applied in a Protestant context; if so, I might end up as one.
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Postby Stonok » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:54 pm

Diopolis wrote:No, that would be the pope who blew the Vatican treasury on a party to watch a bunch of naked women crawling around on the floor scrabbling after chestnuts.

I need to propose this to my Church's Pastor and Treasurer...

I'm only joking, forgive me!
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